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Who is gonna compete?

I'm training a guy who wants to go from light-w8 to bantam-w8, NPC on 3/22

And a trainer at my gym, she's doing a July NPC and NABBA back to back.....

Hopefully w8 thinks that "we're" competing May 3rd.....but she is doing the "Hard Part" LOL :p


Does that all count? :lol:


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It's Fitness Modeling (no routine)......last year I placed 5th out of 50....this year I'm hoping for 3rd out of even more.

FAME
 
Originally posted by w8lifter
It's Fitness Modeling (no routine)......last year I placed 5th out of 50....this year I'm hoping for 3rd out of even more.

FAME

WOW...5th out of 50! That is amazing w8! You always seem to be improving so the other gals better wacth out!! Good luck sweets!!

As for me...I was originally planning on competing in a pro qualifier called Naturalmania this September, however, I have kicked off my diet early and may do a warmup show in late May, and then a pro qualifier, the Hercules Championship, in early June. I will have to see how I progress (and also see if "life" gets in the way).

Started my diet at about 265 and hope to rock the heavyweights this year!!
 
Started my diet at about 265 and hope to rock the heavyweights this year!!

What bf% are you starting your cut at?
 
Originally posted by Prince
where do you think you'll be ripped?


Not sure...since the INBF is going totally towards the ripped look this year, I'm figuring on dropping to 215 or so.
 
Damn GP, 265 at 14% and natural!!!! Now that is impressive. Man that will be cool when you win your pro-card. You will have your pictures and interviews in Natural Bodybuilding and Fitness Magazine.
 
Originally posted by P-funk
Damn GP, 265 at 14% and natural!!!! Now that is impressive. Man that will be cool when you win your pro-card. You will have your pictures and interviews in Natural Bodybuilding and Fitness Magazine.


Thanks my man! I have worked my arse off for this! I hope one day to be in all the mags!
 
Thanks my man! I have worked my arse off for this! I hope one day to be in all the mags!

Two questions for ya:

1) What is the possibility of being all natural and making it into the IFB? I would assume impossiible. Can an all natural bb compete with someone as big and shredded as Jay Cutler?

2) When you are cutting how much, if any, do the weights that you are currently using drop?
 
I will answer question #1.

No way, you would have to be some kind of super genetic freak, which I do not think there is such a thing, to compete with the IFBB Pros naturally.

Skip Lacour claims to be all natural and he looks awesome, but he cannot comete with the likes of Jay Cutler, they would make him look tiny.

Now personally, I think that someone like Skip Lacour looks much better than a Jay Cutler, but that is a separate issue. :)
 
No way, you would have to be some kind of super genetic freak, which I do not think there is such a thing, to compete with the IFBB Pros naturally.

That is what I say. There is no way. The only reason I asked was because If GP is shredded at 215-220lbs that is about the weight of Sean Ray or Lee Priest. Although they probably have much harder muscles and better pump do to the drugs.

Now personally, I think that someone like Skip Lacour looks much better than a Jay Cutler, but that is a separate issue.
I agree. I think that the all natural guys look much better than the juiced up pros.
 
Originally posted by Prince
wouldn't that mean you would be ripped at about 230lbs?


No...you can't go by formulas. As a natural athlete, especially b/c I can't use even prohormones, there will be more muscle loss than I would want due to the need to be so ripped. Skip LaCour is just about my height and just won the TU at about 200 lbs!
 
Originally posted by P-funk
Two questions for ya:

1) What is the possibility of being all natural and making it into the IFB? I would assume impossiible. Can an all natural bb compete with someone as big and shredded as Jay Cutler?

2) When you are cutting how much, if any, do the weights that you are currently using drop?


1- Although Price answered this, his words are not necessarily correct (completely anyway)! I CAN become an IFBB pro one day. I will compete in the Team Universe competition one day. Since as of this year it is now recognized as a pro qualifier, a natural guy can get to the IFBB. Skip is now a pro. However, Skip nor I would never be able to compete successfully at that level...ever.

2-My weights don't drop too much until about 4 weeks out. At this time they go down about 20 % or so.
 
Originally posted by gopro
1- Although Price answered this, his words are not necessarily correct (completely anyway)! I CAN become an IFBB pro one day. I will compete in the Team Universe competition one day. Since as of this year it is now recognized as a pro qualifier, a natural guy can get to the IFBB. Skip is now a pro. However, Skip nor I would never be able to compete successfully at that level...ever.

That's what I meant GP, speaking in the present I do not believe there are any truley natural IFBB pros that successfully compete in the Olympia or Arnold.
I was not saying that you could not get a Pro card, I just meant that you would have a difficult time standing next to a Jay Cutler if you were natural.
 
I think that 215 sounds like a good weight if you're starting at 265lbs at 14% or so...when you're natural and trying to get extra shredded it's next to impossible not to start losing LBM in the last month.

Whatever weight you come in at I'm sureyou'll look AMAZING. I look fwd to watching your progress and following any pointers/comments you provinde over the next few months.

Question...when you're at 14% how long would it take you to get into good enough shape to enter a "prep" show like you mentionned? Say 12 weeks? How long will you diet for the pro-qualifier? AND...just one more....just curious how much you drop your carbs or do you mainly wait until the last couple months or so before you really cut'em down?
 
One more thing......w8.....I'm hoping to make the trip to TO to watch FAME on May2/3...hopefully I'll make it up from Nova Scotia....if so I'll be cheer'in for ya:)
 
Originally posted by Fit Freak
One more thing......w8.....I'm hoping to make the trip to TO to watch FAME on May2/3...hopefully I'll make it up from Nova Scotia....if so I'll be cheer'in for ya:)


Awesome :D Make sure ya come up and say hi :D
 
Originally posted by Fit Freak
I think that 215 sounds like a good weight if you're starting at 265lbs at 14% or so...when you're natural and trying to get extra shredded it's next to impossible not to start losing LBM in the last month.

Whatever weight you come in at I'm sureyou'll look AMAZING. I look fwd to watching your progress and following any pointers/comments you provinde over the next few months.

Question...when you're at 14% how long would it take you to get into good enough shape to enter a "prep" show like you mentionned? Say 12 weeks? How long will you diet for the pro-qualifier? AND...just one more....just curious how much you drop your carbs or do you mainly wait until the last couple months or so before you really cut'em down?

I know you understand how hard it is to get into contest shape naturally! People must understand that we are also not just talking about fat weight, but also water weight too (also muscle weight which we try to keep to a minimum). There have been times that my bodyfat has been around 4%, but in the final week, I still drop another 8-10 lbs of water!!!! Skip LaCour weighed 215 the night before prejudge at the TU and dropped to 205 by the next day!!

Also, I could probably look pretty good at 225 of so, and win most natty shows, however, at a pro qualifier the standard is insane. Most guys are ripped as IFBB pros, although smaller and less dense/veiny/etc.

As to your questions...I can probably be ready for a prep show in about 12 weeks if I push it, but I am going at it for 16 weeks this year. There is a pro Q the following weekend and I will do it if I feel I can place top 5. If not, I will continue my diet for another 12-15 weeks until the Sept Pro Q.

As to my carbs...they will drop gradually each week until the final week. But I also have high, med, and low carb days (and zero carb days) along the way. It all depends on how I'm progressing and also on how much cardio I can do. I take a very "scientific" approach to my diet...probably more so than any other facet of my regimen.
 
Originally posted by Prince
That's what I meant GP, speaking in the present I do not believe there are any truley natural IFBB pros that successfully compete in the Olympia or Arnold.
I was not saying that you could not get a Pro card, I just meant that you would have a difficult time standing next to a Jay Cutler if you were natural.

ABSOLUTELY I agree. If I ever become fortunate enough to earn an IFBB pro card at the TU (I'm thinking by the time I'm 40 or so), I would definitely do a pro show...and although I'd kill myself to be in my best ever condition...I'd fully expect last place. Thats how far ahead drugs put them. However, I'd just do it for the experience of it!
 
I know you understand how hard it is to get into contest shape naturally! People must understand that we are also not just talking about fat weight, but also water weight too (also muscle weight which we try to keep to a minimum). There have been times that my bodyfat has been around 4%, but in the final week, I still drop another 8-10 lbs of water!!!! Skip LaCour weighed 215 the night before prejudge at the TU and dropped to 205 by the next day!!


How do you drop so much water in 24hrs? Are diuretics fair game in all natural shows?

As to my carbs...they will drop gradually each week until the final week. But I also have high, med, and low carb days (and zero carb days) along the way. It all depends on how I'm progressing and also on how much cardio I can do. I take a very "scientific" approach to my diet...probably more so than any other facet of my regimen.

How many weeks out from a show do you start doing cardio?
 
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