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Anyone attend college or University?

Everyone thinks they major in computer science and become a 1337 h4x0s4rus r3x, when it couldn't be farther from the truth. :rolleyes:
 
BigDyl said:
Everyone thinks they major in computer science and become a 1337 h4x0s4rus r3x, when it couldn't be farther from the truth. :rolleyes:
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Did you get a new keyboard? havn't seen you posted a word in days.....


but what the hell are you talking about?
 
viet_jon said:
wow, I never knew you guys we're all into computers.

man, I love computer's. Not just playing games and stuff. I like fucking with it. My first computer i got, I took it all apart, messed up the OS , just to challenge myself to put it back together. Most my friends in highschool hated computer programming class. But I loved it, and even made basic programs on my free time (geeky i know). Not so sure about Microprocessor architecture though, that stuff's dry to me. Software or network related is more interesting for me.

Cowpimp, I see what your saying, how it can get boring sitting in a desk 9-5. The same thing over and over. It's why I'm still kinda undecided on what to study. Still leaning heavily towards coputers though. I just love to figure out things and fixing it. It feels great. A feeling of accomplishment.

I like what Yanick said '
in end, like Patrick once told me, if you are great at what you do you will do well.'

I also find physics and phsycology extremely interesting, but I don't think so I'll be as good at it, compared to if I was into computers.

YANICK: comp sci and all related fields are pretty saturated right now as well.

I've been reading some of my local college statistics, and in the last 6 years, employment within 6 months is somewhere around 85-90% depending on college. It has tappered off a bit compared to 2001-2003 (close to 100%). But 85% still looks pretty good. Graduation is something under 50%. I don't worry about that though, cuz I know I can ace it.
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Viet jon, just realize that a degree in computer science is not going to get you a job fixing computers. Computer science is learning programming languages. You may very well be debugging code for 8 hours a day. Unless you like that (Like I said, I think it's pretty fun), then don't do it. Try to find a microcomputer technician major if that's what you want to do. It's not all that lucrative, but that's what I do for people still sometimes.
 
Oh, and by the way, physics can take you a long way in microprocessor design (Quantum physics) or computer science. Programmers with a good knowledge of physics are very hard to find. There are a decent number of code monkeys out there, but if you want to be a big dog when it comes to programming, a good background in physics helps big time.
 
CowPimp said:
Oh, and by the way, physics can take you a long way in microprocessor design (Quantum physics) or computer science. Programmers with a good knowledge of physics are very hard to find. There are a decent number of code monkeys out there, but if you want to be a big dog when it comes to programming, a good background in physics helps big time.
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omg, that's perfect. I never knew that.

Any physics (especially quantum), is one of the few things that I actually like to read about. I read sometimes 3-4 hours and not get board. Kinesiology is interesting too, but after about an hour, i usually end up on IM after.

but wouldn't quantum mechanics have more to do with microprocessor design, than it would to do with programming?
 
i'd be a gynocologist(sp?) :D lmao
 
Yeah, there is no problem in general ed'n it for a while. I have been going to college for 3 years and I have changed my major weekly (firefighting, english, math, psychology, bio, criminology, philosophy, acting.. Couple others lol). I've earned an international studies certificate, I???m an emt, I???m the ICC representative for the model UN, and I???m part of the honors program and also I have 92 units. After that long in study of every different thing, I am greatly well rounded which is worth it alone. Finally, I decided on a major; I will be getting my bachelors in nursing and then applying to medical school. You figure it out when you start exploring fields that is what I suggest you do.
 
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CRASHMAN said:
Yeah, there is no problem in general ed'n it for a while. I have been going to college for 3 years and I have changed my major weekly (firefighting, english, math, psychology, bio, criminology, philosophy, acting.. Couple others lol). I've earned an international studies certificate, I???m an emt, I???m the ICC representative for the model UN, and I???m part of the honors program and also I have 92 units. After that long in study of every different thing, I am greatly well rounded which is worth it alone. Finally, I decided on a major; I will be getting my bachelors in nursing and then applying to medical school. You figure it out when you start exploring fields that is what I suggest you do.
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the MCAT is NO JOKE...why nursing if you want to be a doctor? why not bio or bio chem?
 
lnvanry said:
the MCAT is NO JOKE...why nursing if you want to be a doctor? why not bio or bio chem?
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It's my interest; i want to learn all aspects of medicine, and it should help me a little in med school between a little inflow of some side cash and knowledge of pharmacology and care etc.
 
CRASHMAN said:
It's my interest; i want to learn all aspects of medicine, and it should help me a little in med school between a little inflow of some side cash and knowledge of pharmacology and care etc.
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Nursing won't help you as much as bio chem will when taking the MCAT...but go for what you want:thumb:
 
CowPimp said:
Viet jon, just realize that a degree in computer science is not going to get you a job fixing computers. Computer science is learning programming languages. You may very well be debugging code for 8 hours a day. Unless you like that (Like I said, I think it's pretty fun), then don't do it. Try to find a microcomputer technician major if that's what you want to do. It's not all that lucrative, but that's what I do for people still sometimes.
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You like to debug shitty code for 8 hours a day? :confused:
 
viet_jon said:
omg, that's perfect. I never knew that.

Any physics (especially quantum), is one of the few things that I actually like to read about. I read sometimes 3-4 hours and not get board. Kinesiology is interesting too, but after about an hour, i usually end up on IM after.

but wouldn't quantum mechanics have more to do with microprocessor design, than it would to do with programming?
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:rolleyes:
 
I lived computers and programming inside and out since i was 10. Writing basic programs on an xt with 256k ram. C, C++ asm, pascal, basic etc. Graphics design, basic games. OpenGl etc. I never really was into the entire web serverside aspect.

I ran a computer business casually last year of highschool then professionally for 5 years.

That got boring, went to school did the CS thing, started to get really sick of coding. Worked for some small companies debugging, simple appz etc. Then i got really sick of it. Lucked out and ended up as a lab tech away from for loops and registers.

My position is really dead ended without proper tech school training. So im back in school now studing physics and math. I dont like computers or medicine. A lot of thought over the years showed this is only only thing that interests me or challenges me. If i end up as a teacher at a community college Im fine with that.

Im 180 degrees from where I was planned to be when i was 17. Im actually very glad its worked out this way.

The thought of spending 10 hours a day looking through other peoples code with zero creativity and zero input horrifies me. I fucking hate computers, i dont know what the latest technology is, i could care less. If my p3 downloads porn and gets me on ironmag. thats all i care about.

Though the idea of doing independant graphics, game shit still interests me, but thats only a hobby now.

Best advice I can give is you really really need to decide if you have the passion and aptitude for coding. You will be going to school with nerds who have never touched a tit and love to spend all day and all night debugging machine code. They will have a huge advantage over you if youre a rookie and this is just a passing interest.

All my first and second year classes consisted of A's or F's people either got it or they didnt.


I have a standing offer at nokia working for a friend of 18 years. Twice the pay Im making now, but it will end my school work. 70k a year but its coding and I refuse to get stuck in that cubicle forever.


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Most important, entry level jobs pay shit and are hard to find these days. My father owns a software company and has downsized from 8 programmers to 2 over the last few years. Most people wont end up working in Redmond or Cupertino. Best strategy is become hardware independant. Learn every aspect of engineering, basic machine level stuff. Then you could as easily work for ford on car systems or lg on microwaves. Become versatile and dont focus on PC's
 
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lnvanry said:
Nursing won't help you as much as bio chem will when taking the MCAT...but go for what you want:thumb:
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Id also see the if some of the classes match too, I know that nurses in the school I go at take easier chem and ochem then premed students do, Although it is really hard to call any organic chemistry easy.
 
viet_jon said:
omg, that's perfect. I never knew that.

Any physics (especially quantum), is one of the few things that I actually like to read about. I read sometimes 3-4 hours and not get board. Kinesiology is interesting too, but after about an hour, i usually end up on IM after.

but wouldn't quantum mechanics have more to do with microprocessor design, than it would to do with programming?
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The quantum physics aspect is more related to microprocessor design, yes. However, physics on the macro level will help you get a job programming engines for games and such, which is going to be far more interesting, in my opinion, than designing apps for companies. However, physics could also get you a job developing software for NASA, a building demolition company, making simulators for various situations, etc.
 
BigDyl said:
You like to debug shitty code for 8 hours a day? :confused:
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Yes, there was a time when I would write code and debug for hours on end trying to fix one problem. At first, the learning curve was steep. Figuring out the problem was like breaking a deadlift PR back then. Haha.
 
nsimmons said:
I lived computers and programming inside and out since i was 10. Writing basic programs on an xt with 256k ram. C, C++ asm, pascal, basic etc. Graphics design, basic games. OpenGl etc. I never really was into the entire web serverside aspect.

I ran a computer business casually last year of highschool then professionally for 5 years.

That got boring, went to school did the CS thing, started to get really sick of coding. Worked for some small companies debugging, simple appz etc. Then i got really sick of it. Lucked out and ended up as a lab tech away from for loops and registers.

My position is really dead ended without proper tech school training. So im back in school now studing physics and math. I dont like computers or medicine. A lot of thought over the years showed this is only only thing that interests me or challenges me. If i end up as a teacher at a community college Im fine with that.

Im 180 degrees from where I was planned to be when i was 17. Im actually very glad its worked out this way.

The thought of spending 10 hours a day looking through other peoples code with zero creativity and zero input horrifies me. I fucking hate computers, i dont know what the latest technology is, i could care less. If my p3 downloads porn and gets me on ironmag. thats all i care about.

Though the idea of doing independant graphics, game shit still interests me, but thats only a hobby now.

Best advice I can give is you really really need to decide if you have the passion and aptitude for coding. You will be going to school with nerds who have never touched a tit and love to spend all day and all night debugging machine code. They will have a huge advantage over you if youre a rookie and this is just a passing interest.

All my first and second year classes consisted of A's or F's people either got it or they didnt.


I have a standing offer at nokia working for a friend of 18 years. Twice the pay Im making now, but it will end my school work. 70k a year but its coding and I refuse to get stuck in that cubicle forever.


[edit]
Most important, entry level jobs pay shit and are hard to find these days. My father owns a software company and has downsized from 8 programmers to 2 over the last few years. Most people wont end up working in Redmond or Cupertino. Best strategy is become hardware independant. Learn every aspect of engineering, basic machine level stuff. Then you could as easily work for ford on car systems or lg on microwaves. Become versatile and dont focus on PC's
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So your basically a born again noob?
 
k-k-k-kenwood! said:
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go back to school
 
bigss75 said:
Id also see the if some of the classes match too, I know that nurses in the school I go at take easier chem and ochem then premed students do, Although it is really hard to call any organic chemistry easy.
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I???m taking courses that aren't in the curriculum of nursing including a lot of the ochem, inochem, honors calculus, biochem, micro etc??? so I???m prepared on all fronts. But basically think of the classes I have to take in nursing: pharmacology, pathopharmacology, pathophsiology, etc are classes I am going to have to take again in depth in medical school; however, i won't be overwhelmed by the work load like i would be coming in as a fresh fish. The MCAT is a huge hurdle but i am more focused on the gauntlet i have to run after.
 
I think it's everyones best interest to be diverisfied and not hone in on just one skill at a young age just so you have other avenues to take if you find complications in your field or find you hate where you're going. Look at my manager he went to school to be an accountant and now he engineers solar electric systems and is one of the top in the field.
 
nsimmons said:
The thought of spending 10 hours a day looking through other peoples code with zero creativity and zero input horrifies me. I fucking hate computers, i dont know what the latest technology is, i could care less. If my p3 downloads porn and gets me on ironmag. thats all i care about.

Though the idea of doing independant graphics, game shit still interests me, but thats only a hobby now.

Best advice I can give is you really really need to decide if you have the passion and aptitude for coding. You will be going to school with nerds who have never touched a tit and love to spend all day and all night debugging machine code. They will have a huge advantage over you if youre a rookie and this is just a passing interest.

All my first and second year classes consisted of A's or F's people either got it or they didnt.
[edit]
Most important, entry level jobs pay shit and are hard to find these days. My father owns a software company and has downsized from 8 programmers to 2 over the last few years. Most people wont end up working in Redmond or Cupertino. Best strategy is become hardware independant. Learn every aspect of engineering, basic machine level stuff. Then you could as easily work for ford on car systems or lg on microwaves. Become versatile and dont focus on PC's
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LOL

anyway, now im having second thoughts. Thankx for the advice though. I think I should do more reading/research before I end up getting into something I'm not gonna like. I do enjoy writing code though, but Debugging code hours on end must be a bitch. I can picture that.
 
writing code is ghey, i like exploiting it.
 
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