Uthinkso guilty of over thinking...

[Uthinkso]

Great day at the gym today, totally broke through my image barrier. I'm fat, I'm going to look silly and awkward at times, but hell I'm in there doing it so that one day I'm back to my old self. Maybe even a better person than I was before. I think I figured that the added weight I'm seeing lately is water weight indeed. I weighed myself when I arrived in my workout clothes at 242lb, after my weights and cardio I weighed 239lb. So I lost 3lb in water basically. I got off coffee because its been bothering my stomach and switched to Low-Carb monster, I drink two a day roughly. One in the am and one in the afternoon. They have 300g sodium per can, do you think this could be the problem??? I made the switch about a month ago and only in the last week have I noticed the weight change.

Today was chest and tris. Workout went as follows:

Flat DB Bench
45x12
55x10
65x6
65x4

Body Weight Dips (thats right bitches, ditched the assisted shit)
3x5reps

Incline Bench
25x12 (WU Set)
35x10
45x6
45x4/30x5 (broke early here but wanted to knock a few more out for good measure. Felt much stronger here than on the push/pull routine.)

Pushdown w/V handle
50x10(WU Set)
70x10
80x10
100x6

Cable Crossovers (I love these things, glad to have them back)
95x10
115x10
115x10

Single DB Overhead Extensions
25x10 reps per arm
25x10 " "
25x8 " "

30 minutes of cardio, low intensity primarily with some running to get the heart rate up. Doing my best to maintain a heart rate between 130-140BPM. Its a different method than HIIT that I've read about so I'm trying it. I can't say it works or doesn't until I try it.

Legs and shoulders tommorrow. I don't mind these days back to back because its primarily upper and lower. Though I am thinking of working shoulders into back and bi day so I can do legs alone. Thoughts???

 

[Bakerboy]

Why would you do your shoulders tomorrow don't you think you used them with all that pressing? You need to get a better set up.

 

[Double D]

Why would you do your shoulders tomorrow don't you think you used them with all that pressing? You need to get a better set up.

BB is right. You need to rethink this.

 

[Uthinkso]

The two shoulder excercises I really wanted to do was lat raises and military press. If I do them on chest day then I'm right back into a push day like the previous program.

Honestly this has always worked well for me in the past, when I strayed from what I knew training wise it all went to shit. That push/pull/legs deal just broke me down and made me weaker. At least in my opinion. Perhaps I just don't have the muscle recovery to support that kind of routine YET? Either way I'm on the split for 10 weeks then will revisit the psuh/pull/legs deal.

 

[Bakerboy]

Why not do upper lower upper lower or total body then- you have options.

 

[Double D]

I dont like push/pull/legs either, but I do like some sort of upper/lower routine!

 

[Uthinkso]

Why not do upper lower upper lower or total body then- you have options.

You've tickled my interest oh bakerboy....perhaps you could show an example? A link will do fine.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Double D]

My journal has tons of em.

 

[Uthinkso]

My journal has tons of em.

Well I am off to the grocery store now, need more damn chicken, but I will check on it when I get back.

Food for thought either way. Thank you.

 

[Double D]

Welcome, dont forget to pick up some almonds for me. Damn those are expensive!

 

[Uthinkso]

Welcome, dont forget to pick up some almonds for me. Damn those are expensive!

yeah but oh so good, I eat them twice a day for fat.

 

[Double D]

Yeah I really like spanish peanuts as well.

 

[Uthinkso]

Yeah I really like spanish peanuts as well.

I've never dabled into the spanish fly....I mean nuts.


Also while I'm still good and angry, Kroger sucks. I didn't get half of what I wanted because Costco was closed. The whores!!!

 

[Double D]

Hum....I buy most of my stuff at Krogers. And yes they dont have a great selection. Just depends on the Kroger you go to . Theres one in Indiana that is GREAT! Oh well. Get anything good?

 

[Uthinkso]

Picked up some berries for my PWO shakes. My whey should be here any day now then I can start those. Picked up some flank steak, chicken breast, turkey sausage and egg beaters for sunday breakfast. Ten bags of frozen veggies, long grain brown rice, apples, asparagus, and this months Muscle Mag.

Thats all that comes to mind.

Costco I need more chicken and some orange roughy, but thats tomorrow.

 

[Double D]

Shouldnt have wasted your money on the musclemag.

Mens Fitness is good however. It has good ideas in it that has to do with non steroid users.

 

[P-funk]

can you please post out the routine that you are doing right now? Just set out the days.

push/pull/legs made you weaker?

Let me just rant on this for a second......a trainign split does not make someone weaker and it does not make someone fatter. What you do with it ultimately says wether you improve or not. I could do any training split I want and I am confident that I can get what I want out of it, because I know how to manipulate the variables.

 

[Double D]

One of the things I dont like about Push/Pull/Legs is simply I dont like hitting that group once a week. But thats just me.

P is completely right you can make gains by switching variables, and by posting your split you can see where you have made mistakes.

 

[P-funk]

I could see doing it at isolated times....but if the goal is fat loss, you want to get the biggest bang for your buck. Going in and trainign chest shoulders and tris exclusivelly is just a waste....there is way more metabolically active tissue in your lower body and back. work it!

 

[Double D]

Agreed......

For fuck sakes, why do I even right agreed? When do I disagree with you?

 

[P-funk]

Agreed......

For fuck sakes, why do I even right agreed? When do I disagree with you?

I don't know. But you should! I don't know everything. I am just like everyone else. When people agree, it forces me to think or re-think things that I believe at the moment and sometimes forumate a new opinion.

 

[Uthinkso]

right now and this just started tuesday of this week, so two days ago.

Day 1: Back and Bis
Day 2: Chest and Tris (that was today)
Day 3: Legs (thats one day I have dialed in)

The leg day hasn't changed since push/pull/legs and my other two days are posted on page five of this thread.

 

[Uthinkso]

I don't know. But you should! I don't know everything. I am just like everyone else. When people agree, it forces me to think or re-think things that I believe at the moment and sometimes forumate a new opinion.

Ok I disagree with you then......about what I have no idea.

 

[Double D]

Let me say it before he does. Thats not a routine. Those are bodyparts in certain days. Wheres your loading? What exercises are you doing? Are you using progression?

 

[Double D]

I don't know. But you should! I don't know everything. I am just like everyone else. When people agree, it forces me to think or re-think things that I believe at the moment and sometimes forumate a new opinion.

Yeah, but you suck because we believe the same shit! And if I dont believe it I decide to give it a whirl and I enjoy it and it works out for me.

 

[P-funk]

right now and this just started tuesday of this week, so two days ago.

Day 1: Back and Bis
Day 2: Chest and Tris (that was today)
Day 3: Legs (thats one day I have dialed in)

The leg day hasn't changed since push/pull/legs and my other two days are posted on page five of this thread.

okay. so looking at that, I just see a lot of room for improvement. There isn't a lot of frequency there.

In my blog I had went in detail (month of feb.) about how to set up an A/B routine. I would go with total body A/B routine and 3 different rep ranges to work from (one for each day). Does that make sense? Check out the blog entry and it is all laid out.

 

[Uthinkso]

Let me say it before he does. Thats not a routine. Those are bodyparts in certain days. Wheres your loading? What exercises are you doing? Are you using progression?

Its midnight, I need to get to sleep and I listed where those days can be found. When I post my routines after workouts I include weight, reps, and sets.

Come on this all started after I posted todays workout and you and the bakerboy got looking into my day.

 

[Double D]

I dont know if this upsets you?

But if you are going to do something you ought to do it right correct? Just trying to help.

 

[Uthinkso]

okay. so looking at that, I just see a lot of room for improvement. There isn't a lot of frequency there.

In my blog I had went in detail (month of feb.) about how to set up an A/B routine. I would go with total body A/B routine and 3 different rep ranges to work from (one for each day). Does that make sense? Check out the blog entry and it is all laid out.

I'll give it a look in the morning. I will say this, I enjoy working with weights. I don't want to get into loads of excercises or a routine that is weight free or loads of body weight excercise. In that event I don't even need the gym then.

I'll look at it tomorrow. For now I need to get myself the six hours of sleep I get a night.

As for the muscle mag, I typically avoid these but this one has 28 page nutrition section that I wanted to check out. Could be shit and could be good, either way I'll flip the four bucks to giver a look.

Good evening men, thanks for the help and kick in the ass as always. I'm reminded of a quote from the godfather, "Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in". Thats how I feel with trying to get out of the rut and into a good routine.

 

[Bakerboy]

That's just because we care. You said you were going to do shoulders and legs tomorrow and I said why would you do shoulders when you did all that pushing today- your shoulders already got worked.