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Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Oscar De La Hoya

PBF vs. ODLH

  • Oscar De La Hoya

    Votes: 7 35.0%

  • Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Votes: 13 65.0%
  • Total voters
    20
On an interesting side note Floyd Mayweather Jr. cleared up some questions about his rumored life after boxing. In the past weeks boxing's widely regarded pound for pound champion had made derogatory comments about mixed martial arts and its fighters, prompting UFC President Dana White to reportedly offer Floyd Mayweather Jr. a fight against current UFC Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk to prove if Mayweather's suspicions of mixed martial arts fighters were true.

Mayweather Jr. swallowed his pride and sincerely stated to Fightnews that he has no plans of competing in any organization of mixed martial arts,

"I apologize to the UFC, sometimes we say things that we shouldn't have said and I'm man enough to admit that. I apologize to the Fertittas, Lorenzo and Dana White (UFC owners). I respect MMA fighters and what they do in the UFC. I have no plans of fighting in mixed martial arts."
 
P-funk said:
it is BOXING! it is not a game! People pay to see a damn fight!! Not to see guys dance around wtih crafty footwork and place defense. How exciting is that? People want to see two guys get in the ring and duke it out. these guys play that pussy game and that is one of the reasons that boxing has losts so much appeal.

Although he is critized for being a heavy weight champ in a time when there was no "real" boxer and being a champ in a time where he had no "real" rival, at least when Tyson fought you knew that there was the potential for someone to get their head knocked off. That is why people watched.

It would be like taking the home run out of baseball or the deep pass out of football. Why would anyone want to tune in? At least you know that at least once (usually more) in pretty much every game their will be an HR or a deep pass and it will make things exciting. I don't get that with boxing anymore. I watch a fight and I am not 100% positive that their is going to be a strong round where guys come out slugging. Shit, at least the in the show the Contender, the guys come out and throw down.
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For the most part, I agree. I may not be a fan of boxing for agreeing, but I can easily understand these points.

The baseball comparison is good. If theres no home runs or crazy plays, then the game itself is boring. However, others would say that its not and that I am not a "fan."

I watch MMA for a variety of reasons and almost all of them are entertaining. However, its really hard to compare the two. The are entirely different beasts. Even so, I like watching boxing every so often, but its usually when someone gets knocked out. I can watch an entire 5 rounds of fighting in MMA and wait for the decision, but not boxing. Not to say that a comeback at the end wouldnt happen in boxing, but its far less likely.

Lightweights are most boring to me. I see a SHITLOAD more hits than I see Heavyweights landing, but they seem to have no power. Its like watching a pillow fight.
 
Goodfella9783 said:
Watch Arturo Gatti, Joe Calzaghe, Jermain Taylor, Manny Pacquiao, Wladimir Klitschko (been KO'ing a lot heavyweights lately), Lamon Brewster, James Toney, Erik Morales, Paul Williams, Vitali Klitschko (making a comeback) and many more. Boxing is far from dead. If you want to see purely brutal knockouts and quick slugfests, MMA is where it's at, even though there are exceptions there too.
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Gatti. I thought that was the latino guy that fought the irishman. Good fights.

I will watch Klitschko almost every time he fights.



Goodfella9783 said:
And no one expected to see a slugfest between Floyd and DLH at all. Boxing is a fight yes, but it's a sport too. To say you just all you want to see is guys beast on each other and KO each other, hurt each other is a shitty attitude as a boxing fan and towards athletes in general.
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Thats kind of a stretch to say shitty attitude about boxing. Why is it not to be expected? Boxing is a sport of fighting. Take away the sport, you still got a fight...take away the fight and you got....baseball?
 
I think it depends on how advanced you are with that sport. Honestly I would rather watch a baseball game that features good pitching compared to a slug fest, where as most others would rather see 30 runs scored. I think the same may go for a boxing fan. They like the technical things in it, while it bores the hell out of me, they like it.
 
gatti is interesting to watch, not to mention trying to figure out his background...born in italy, raised in canada, fighting out of jersey city
 
Goodfella9783 said:
But I do know for a fact that Floyd's punch stats were exaggerated in that he a lot was blocked.
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I completely disagree with that. If anyone's punch stats were skewed it was De La Hoya's. Half the punches he threw were slaps when he went into his hissy fit flurry at the end of each round. That fight turned out exactly like I thought it would, disappointingly.

This says it all:
The final Compu Box numbers show de la Hoya landed 122 of 587 punches thrown, good for a 21% connect percentage. Meanwhile, Mayweather landed 207 punches of 481 punches thrown, good for a 43% connect percentage. Mayweather connected on 57% of his power punches. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is now 38-0 with 24 wins coming by way of knockout.

80% of his punches hit air, and a judge gave him this fight? For what, making Floyd hit him with his back on the ropes? This was a typical, Mayweather, Jones Jr. type fight. The opponent presses the action and tries to hit them, while they parry and counter

"The scorecard in favor of de la Hoya seemed very generous and Max Kellerman buried that judge in the wrap up for doing a bad job keeping score. The fact that someone could score that fight to De La Hoya, is proof of a serious problem in boxing."

My favorite quote of the night..... "For some reason, it wasn't the night of the jab. For some reason, I don't know--every time I would throw it, it would snap his head back and I could see his nose bleeding just from the jab alone. But for some reason it was just one of those nights."

Good job Oscar, 25 million +.
 
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I think ODH has class. I know Mayweather is confused. He should come on into an MMA ring but will not ever get up the balls.

I say this with the respect of an old school boxing fan who has watched Ali fight when I was a kid back in the 60's and 70's, Holmes own the 80's, Tyson own the late 80's and early 90's, to the Russian fighters who brought white folks back into the heavy weight ring: RIP boxing.

I think Jim Limpley is an arrogant pompous windbag who prolly has sperm breath by 9:am everyday. He's a disingenuous retard with the delusion that he knows what he's talking about. His sidekick is worse. I'd enjoy meeting Limpley in person.
 
the nut said:
The final Compu Box numbers show de la Hoya landed 122 of 587 punches thrown, good for a 21% connect percentage.
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De La Hoya only landed 10 punches per round and you think those numbers were skewed? What did he land in your opinion if those numbers are false? Last second flurry or not, he landed shots. A lot of Floyd's were clearly being blocked.

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This guy knows what he's talking about :thumb:
 
sherk would kill mayweather in an MMA fight. Ankle pick or single leg takedown, then it's over.
 
Easily. Just as Mayweather would crush Sherk in a 12 round boxing match (would take less than 2 though). Mayweather also has a better chance at beating Sherk with MMA rules than Sherk would at beating Floyd in boxing rules. Draw your own conclusions.
 
Pretty Boy dosen't have the MMA attitude, IMO. I haven't seen Sherk fight much, other than the last one.
 
There are better choices than Sherk to put up against Mayweather in a 12 rounder ...
 
Goodfella9783 said:
Easily. Just as Mayweather would crush Sherk in a 12 round boxing match (would take less than 2 though). Mayweather also has a better chance at beating Sherk with MMA rules than Sherk would at beating Floyd in boxing rules. Draw your own conclusions.
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Boxing is more one-dimensional. MMA is way more dynamic and telling of who would win in a no holds barred fight since it's the closest mimic.
 
BigDyl said:
Boxing is more one-dimensional. MMA is way more dynamic and telling of who would win in a no holds barred fight since it's the closest mimic.
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True. Probably why Floyd won't take Dana White's offer. He knows if he didn't knock out Sherk quick he'd have no shot and would look stupid because of the comments he made about MMA. Even pure Muy Thai/Kickboxer guys like Kongo and Cope get taken town easily. And they're allowed to kick. Floyd is quick but I doubt he'd be able to stop a Sherk shoot and takedown unless he landed some of his first punches.
 
Goodfella9783 said:
No lightweight I know of could switch from MMA and box at the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr. No f**kin way.
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I am solid in my belief that the specificity of training done by a boxer doesn't produce a better striker than the all around training of a well trained MMA fighter. Iron Mike Benevides or Krazy Horse are examples of hard hitting talented strikers that would absolutely have a shot vs Mayweather.

We'll have to agree to disagree here.
 
BoneCrusher said:
I am solid in my belief that the specificity of training done by a boxer doesn't produce a better striker than the all around training of a well trained MMA fighter. Iron Mike Benevides or Krazy Horse are examples of hard hitting talented strikers that would absolutely have a shot vs Mayweather.

We'll have to agree to disagree here.
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I'd put your favorite Nick Diaz in there too. With that big ole reach he'd give Floyd fits.
 
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