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Since i' am 14 Years of age!!! And always a proud Giants and 49ers fan!!!

Altough i had to buy USA Today to know the results back in the good ol'e Times!!! Today i have MLB.TV and the Internet!!! Believe me its a Bliss!!!:)
That's cool, sorry I had to rag on him but he is.....different.
There is no denying the fact he was a very good player all around..but...
 
TONS OF FUN gets smoked by a rookie!
 
That's cool, sorry I had to rag on him but he is.....different.
There is no denying the fact he was a very good player all around..but...

Ok!!! I understand that you will never warm up to him, but try to be more objective in his Case!!! And as i read this, i sense it starts to happen!!!;)
 
He did get caught. Remember the cream and the clear (I know BigDyl does) He just hasn't been proven guilty of "knowingly using steroids".
 
To me, the steriods are a mute point. Everyone does them. Baseball today is not the same as it was 50 yrs ago. You can't even compare the two. But you would think someone with the publicity that Bonds has, he would be a better steward for MLB. No one cares about Bonds and his record...........sad.
 
Congrats to Bonds, it is a great feat.

I still don't know where I sit with this record being broken.
 
Didn't that night PERFECTLY define Barry's career? He finally hit a HR to break the record. Then the following events took place:

He stands at home plate like he is Rocky Balboa bringing attention to himself.

He rounds the bases and none of the Nationals shake his hand and only one is visible clapping (the second baseman who is doing a light "golf clap" to be polite).

He gets to home plate where his son has already jumped over the barrier once contact was made and waiting for him at home plate. His son waits and Barry gets home, puts his arms up in the air drawing more attention to himself (though he'll say it was for Bobby). Yet he never gave his son a hug or even a slap on the back or a rubbing of his head. His son hugged him while Barry kept focused on of course, himself. (And when his young daughter came out, he put his arm around her for all of like 2 seconds and couldn't even bother lifting her up.)

Then he goes in the dugout and not very many people on his own team seem very genuinely excited for Barry. They give him the courtesy congrats and no more than a few minutes later, the camera shot shows Barry sitting ALL BY HIMSELF on the bench. In this, his great moment of triumph, none of his teammates are sitting all around him celebrating with him.

Then the next inning starts, the crowd cheers as he comes off the field in the "double switch." Yet there is no "curtain call" for Barry from the fans. Why? Because they all just wanted to see the record broken and most could care less about selfish Barry.

In short, I encourage everyone to watch the video when Mark McGwire hits his historic Home Run. Watch and compare what happens. Both teams are GENUINELY excited for him. The umpires congratulate him. The crowd is in an absolute FRENZY and want more, more and more McGwire.

The best part about Barry's homer was seeing the class presented by Hank Aaron. Hank knows this record is obviously tainted, yet he still rose above it and was the bigger person... something that Barry could never, ever be.

It is sad that the Giants have had such class act players like Willie McCovey and Frank Robinson, yet associate themselves with the likes of Willie Mays and Barry Bonds instead. While all 4 are outstanding players, the former two were humble and classy, while the latter two were selfish, "look-at-me" individuals. It is the difference between comparing a different pair of San Francisco stars: Jerry Rice's class and humbleness versus Terrell Owens' "look-at-me" selfish attitude.
 
It certainly was an interesting experience watching him break the record live last night. I wasn't happy; I wasn't sad. I literally felt nothing. I guess I was grateful that I was witnessing history being made; but that was about it.
 
Great post, shiz! :thumbs:

I didn't see it live, but caught the replay on ESPN this morning. I could understand the part where he just stood at home plate and watched, but the part where he basically blew off his son seemed very odd to me.
 
Didn't that night PERFECTLY define Barry's career? He finally hit a HR to break the record. Then the following events took place:

He stands at home plate like he is Rocky Balboa bringing attention to himself.

He rounds the bases and none of the Nationals shake his hand and only one is visible clapping (the second baseman who is doing a light "golf clap" to be polite).

He gets to home plate where his son has already jumped over the barrier once contact was made and waiting for him at home plate. His son waits and Barry gets home, puts his arms up in the air drawing more attention to himself (though he'll say it was for Bobby). Yet he never gave his son a hug or even a slap on the back or a rubbing of his head. His son hugged him while Barry kept focused on of course, himself. (And when his young daughter came out, he put his arm around her for all of like 2 seconds and couldn't even bother lifting her up.)

Then he goes in the dugout and not very many people on his own team seem very genuinely excited for Barry. They give him the courtesy congrats and no more than a few minutes later, the camera shot shows Barry sitting ALL BY HIMSELF on the bench. In this, his great moment of triumph, none of his teammates are sitting all around him celebrating with him.

Then the next inning starts, the crowd cheers as he comes off the field in the "double switch." Yet there is no "curtain call" for Barry from the fans. Why? Because they all just wanted to see the record broken and most could care less about selfish Barry.

In short, I encourage everyone to watch the video when Mark McGwire hits his historic Home Run. Watch and compare what happens. Both teams are GENUINELY excited for him. The umpires congratulate him. The crowd is in an absolute FRENZY and want more, more and more McGwire.

The best part about Barry's homer was seeing the class presented by Hank Aaron. Hank knows this record is obviously tainted, yet he still rose above it and was the bigger person... something that Barry could never, ever be.

It is sad that the Giants have had such class act players like Willie McCovey and Frank Robinson, yet associate themselves with the likes of Willie Mays and Barry Bonds instead. While all 4 are outstanding players, the former two were humble and classy, while the latter two were selfish, "look-at-me" individuals. It is the difference between comparing a different pair of San Francisco stars: Jerry Rice's class and humbleness versus Terrell Owens' "look-at-me" selfish attitude.
Well said.
 
Didn't that night PERFECTLY define Barry's career? He finally hit a HR to break the record. Then the following events took place:

He stands at home plate like he is Rocky Balboa bringing attention to himself.

He rounds the bases and none of the Nationals shake his hand and only one is visible clapping (the second baseman who is doing a light "golf clap" to be polite).

He gets to home plate where his son has already jumped over the barrier once contact was made and waiting for him at home plate. His son waits and Barry gets home, puts his arms up in the air drawing more attention to himself (though he'll say it was for Bobby). Yet he never gave his son a hug or even a slap on the back or a rubbing of his head. His son hugged him while Barry kept focused on of course, himself. (And when his young daughter came out, he put his arm around her for all of like 2 seconds and couldn't even bother lifting her up.)

Then he goes in the dugout and not very many people on his own team seem very genuinely excited for Barry. They give him the courtesy congrats and no more than a few minutes later, the camera shot shows Barry sitting ALL BY HIMSELF on the bench. In this, his great moment of triumph, none of his teammates are sitting all around him celebrating with him.

Then the next inning starts, the crowd cheers as he comes off the field in the "double switch." Yet there is no "curtain call" for Barry from the fans. Why? Because they all just wanted to see the record broken and most could care less about selfish Barry.

In short, I encourage everyone to watch the video when Mark McGwire hits his historic Home Run. Watch and compare what happens. Both teams are GENUINELY excited for him. The umpires congratulate him. The crowd is in an absolute FRENZY and want more, more and more McGwire.

The best part about Barry's homer was seeing the class presented by Hank Aaron. Hank knows this record is obviously tainted, yet he still rose above it and was the bigger person... something that Barry could never, ever be.

It is sad that the Giants have had such class act players like Willie McCovey and Frank Robinson, yet associate themselves with the likes of Willie Mays and Barry Bonds instead. While all 4 are outstanding players, the former two were humble and classy, while the latter two were selfish, "look-at-me" individuals. It is the difference between comparing a different pair of San Francisco stars: Jerry Rice's class and humbleness versus Terrell Owens' "look-at-me" selfish attitude.


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It is amazing how such an important record for baseball, can have so little attention or emotion.
 
Baseball is the one sport where records are important.

Not football, not basketball. I learned math through it, my father thought me how to keep batting records and ERA's.

To have it done this way sort of cheapens it.

Everyone knows about Dimaggios record, Hanks HR record.

They might as well have replace players with robots and wooden bats with alumnin.
 
Baseball is the one sport where records are important.

Not football, not basketball. I learned math through it, my father thought me how to keep batting records and ERA's.

To have it done this way sort of cheapens it.

Everyone knows about Dimaggios record, Hanks HR record.

They might as well have replace players with robots and wooden bats with alumnin.

See that is what is tearing me up. I am really on the fence with the record being broken like this. No doubt he is an exceptional athlete, but to have the record broken with questions in place, seems I dunno like BS.

Who knows Aaron could have used roids, they were available during his era. But he also batted in an era where pitchers used the higher mound to there advantage.

Such a shame to see this record go down like this.
 
See that is what is tearing me up. I am really on the fence with the record being broken like this. No doubt he is an exceptional athlete, but to have the record broken with questions in place, seems I dunno like BS.

Who knows Aaron could have used roids, they were available during his era. But he also batted in an era where pitchers used the higher mound to there advantage.

Such a shame to see this record go down like this.
I have been listening to sports announcers, former players and fans, and they all are against him.
It's a shame it came down like this.
Look at Palermo, he was a well liked player till he got busted. You never see his face much and he was a decent player.

I wonder when he uses viagra and he asks his wife how was it does she show him an * ?
 
See the thing is I don't blame Barry.

MLB did nothing about it. Steroids and Performance enhancers aren't a new thing, MLB created an environment to support that type of behavior. They reaped the benefits when times were good, and strung up there stars when times were bad.
 
See the thing is I don't blame Barry.

MLB did nothing about it. Steroids and Performance enhancers aren't a new thing, MLB created an environment to support that type of behavior. They reaped the benefits when times were good, and strung up there stars when times were bad.
So true, they turned a blind eye when Sosa and Mark were going for the record.
 
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I have been listening to sports announcers, former players and fans, and they all are against him.
It's a shame it came down like this.
Look at Palermo, he was a well liked player till he got busted. You never see his face much and he was a decent player.

I wonder when he uses viagra and he asks his wife how was it does she show him an * ?

They aren't all against him. Mark Grace sure wasn't. He said something along the lines of Barry is the best player to ever play the game and he's proud that someone from his generation broke the record, and holds that distinction.

Steroids didn't win Barry the golden gloves or steal all the bases that he stole that's for sure. Didn't Jose Canseco say in his book that 40% of major leaguers were taking steroids at some point? Where are all of their records?? Barry is perhaps the best all around player to ever put a uniform on, steroids or not. This is not a tainted record in my book nor should it have an asterisk next to it. Barry is the home run king. Period.
 
I don't consider it a tainted record, he did it, there are no ifs ands or buts about it. However it is disappointing how it happened. Would Bonds have broken the record without the assistance or Steroids probably not.
 
And now lets look at some more stats. I know I have posted this previously numerous times

Take a look at his stats pre 2000 and post 2000 quite a remarable difference

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/mlb_individual_stats_player.jsp?playerID=111188&st atType=1

Pre 2000 Avg HR per Season 32
Post 2000 Avg HR per Season 52

Pre OB% 407
Post OB% 535

Pre Slug% 561
Post Slug% 611

Pre Bat avg .288
Post Bat avg .341

Well how does his batting look since 2005 when the MLB steroid Policy was introduced?

2005 ( he only played 14 games this season)

HR - 5
OB% - .404
Slug% - .667
Bat Avg. - .286


2006

HR - 26
OB% - .454.
Slug % - .545
Bat Avg. - .270

2007
HR - 23
OB% - .496
Slug % - .580
Bat Avg. - .279

Little more food for thought, what happened to those pre steroid testing numbers?!?!?
 
And now lets look at some more stats. I know I have posted this previously numerous times



Well how does his batting look since 2005 when the MLB steroid Policy was introduced?

2005 ( he only played 14 games this season)

HR - 5
OB% - .404
Slug% - .667
Bat Avg. - .286


2006

HR - 26
OB% - .454.
Slug % - .545
Bat Avg. - .270

2007
HR - 23
OB% - .496
Slug % - .580
Bat Avg. - .279

Little more food for thought, what happened to those pre steroid testing numbers?!?!?

It's kinda hard to hit very well when you're not getting pitches to hit. Take a gander at the obp. He's teetering around .500. That's amazing.
 
No doubt but nothing comparable to the steroid years.

Still doesn't change the fact that steroids impacted him breaking the HR record.
 
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