-
Hello, this board in now turned off and no new posting.
Please REGISTER at Anabolic Steroid Forums, and become a member of our NEW community!
-
Check Out IronMag Labs® KSM-66 Max - Recovery and Anabolic Growth Complex
congrats to ALN!!!
- Thread starter thewicked
- Start date
- Status
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2004
- Messages
- 406
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 0
Honestly? It truly was pure luck. We submitted nothing. Someone who works at MH bought our products of their own volition and liked them. That is what started the ball rolling. I cannot tell you how grateful I am to them.
Chris
TexanTA1996
Registered
Can you show me in the rules where it says we can't express our opinions about supplement companies? The fact of the matter is that I would have expressed the same opinion if Muscle Tech had won the award, or another company who sells overpriced crap. If optimum nutrition had won it, I would have said "great job, they sell a quality product at a fair price".
I actually have a question, and I will state that I am NOT bashing anyone, I just have a real question about protein powders in general. How exactly does one "know" if their protein is high quality? I am not talking about the difference between a whey concentrate/blend and a straight isolate or anything like that, but if I used a "cheaper" (in price) protein as opposed to a more expensive one, how do I actually know that I am getting any additional benefit from it? Is one going to put more muscle on me because it is a higher quality?
Personally, I think it all comes down to taste and personal preference when shopping for a protein. I like to use ON whey and part of my decision to use them is price and partly is because I love the taste. I also use Syntrax Nectar around my workouts because I LOVE the fact that I can mix their Lemon Tea flavor with my dextrose and have a protein shake that tastes like iced tea. Now they are expensive, $25 for 2 pounds, and it is a straight isolate, but really, I don't know if their protein is of any higher quality than any other protein, I just love the taste. If ALN came out with a protein that tasted like Nectar's Lemon Tea, I might be inclined to buy it too.
there are so many different types of protein out there that it's hard to be "loyal" to a company these days. I may like my Syntrax Nectar, but if they suddenly raised the price to $35 for 2 lbs, it's adios to them. I usually only buy my ON whey when I can find the 5 lbs tub for $39 or less, I won't pay more than that. In fact, if the ALN products, or any other company's products were able to price their proteins to rival the ON protein, I would most definitely try them. There are some people who will insist on "paying for quality", but I believe, especially nowadays that many people are shopping with a budget in mind, and don't have endless $$$ to spend on protein supplements, as they are a luxory item to most people other than competitive athletes and bodybuilders, so I think that price becomes the number one priority for the casual weightlifter and they will search for the best price they can find, regardless of brand.
Chris, is there anyway to run a sale or something like that on your protein so that the price rivals other brands so that people might be willing to try it and see what the fuss is all about? You might find some new customers that way, who knows.
Personally, I think it all comes down to taste and personal preference when shopping for a protein. I like to use ON whey and part of my decision to use them is price and partly is because I love the taste. I also use Syntrax Nectar around my workouts because I LOVE the fact that I can mix their Lemon Tea flavor with my dextrose and have a protein shake that tastes like iced tea. Now they are expensive, $25 for 2 pounds, and it is a straight isolate, but really, I don't know if their protein is of any higher quality than any other protein, I just love the taste. If ALN came out with a protein that tasted like Nectar's Lemon Tea, I might be inclined to buy it too.
there are so many different types of protein out there that it's hard to be "loyal" to a company these days. I may like my Syntrax Nectar, but if they suddenly raised the price to $35 for 2 lbs, it's adios to them. I usually only buy my ON whey when I can find the 5 lbs tub for $39 or less, I won't pay more than that. In fact, if the ALN products, or any other company's products were able to price their proteins to rival the ON protein, I would most definitely try them. There are some people who will insist on "paying for quality", but I believe, especially nowadays that many people are shopping with a budget in mind, and don't have endless $$$ to spend on protein supplements, as they are a luxory item to most people other than competitive athletes and bodybuilders, so I think that price becomes the number one priority for the casual weightlifter and they will search for the best price they can find, regardless of brand.
Chris, is there anyway to run a sale or something like that on your protein so that the price rivals other brands so that people might be willing to try it and see what the fuss is all about? You might find some new customers that way, who knows.
it's in those same rules that say don't tell the admin he is a dickhead and to fuck off, better known as common sense.
there is also a diffrence in voicing a opinion, and straight slander. you guys bashed a company, and a product you didnt try. your remarks on here seem to be a more personal problem with chris than his products.
TexanTA1996
Registered
Slander is making up false statements about an individual. Nitrean may very well be a great protein product, it's still overpriced. Nobody is bashing the product, I'm bashing the price.
The bottom line is that using a protein such as Nitrean will not yield any additional results over using a protein such as optimum nutrition. That's a fact. Everyone in this thread knows that no matter what they say, they just have an agenda to uphold so they won't admit that-which is pretty pathetic.
saying all of allins products are overpriced is slander. you stated that there products are not worth it basicaly. since you have no proof that there products are no good it would be slander. i cant back there protien in any way becouse i have not taken it. there for i have no opinion. now i have taken nitor, and can compare it to other products on the market right now. also the definition of slander does not just include a person. the definition is in regards to business, person, and reputation.
ya i know i want a dog like that. found it on google that it was neat looking. could you imagine walking around with a freakishly muscular dog like that shit.
listen, this isnt my board, but i will never censor someone who is making a legit comment about a product. even if prince wanted me to, there are other mods who can do it, however when people start insulting each other, then at that point it needs to stop. that was the only issue i took with this whole deal, and i edited posts to make them more acceptable instead of deleting and giving people infractions.
now when the owner of the board asks you to chill, then if you continue to proceed then it is your call and you will deal with whatever comes next.
there is a way to constructively offer criticism, and there is a way to essentially troll someone. i prefer the prior.
now when the owner of the board asks you to chill, then if you continue to proceed then it is your call and you will deal with whatever comes next.
there is a way to constructively offer criticism, and there is a way to essentially troll someone. i prefer the prior.
One simple thing you can do is take take the serving size and divide it by the number of grams of protein per serving to get the percentage of protein. Some proteins have more than others. Then you get different proteins that will cost you more or less.
TexanTA1996
Registered
I'll offer constructive thoughts. At Large, stop selling microlactin powder for 4 times the cost and calling it ETS. Stop increasing the cost of Nitrean, it was $48.95 a few weeks ago, now its $53.
Why bother even looking at the prices if it getting you upset. Please stop this continued crap we know your position
Why bother even looking at the prices if it getting you upset. Please stop this continued crap we know your position
+1
TexanTA1996
Registered
Why bother even looking at the prices if it getting you upset. Please stop this continued crap we know your position
I think it's only fair that someone combats the mindless chatter of the sponsors on this site who tell everyone to buy their stuff when it's overpriced. I'm looking out for the person who is just getting into supplementation and doesn't know any better. Is there something wrong with that? I certainly hope not.
+ infinite
Using this little formula, Nitrean and ON's whey have virtually the same percentage of protein. The difference being that you are paying just about $4 dollars more per pound for At Large Nutritions version.
Talk about a no-brainer.
Edit: I'm also using Bodybuilding.com's pricing, which isn't the site people should be buying from anyways, as you can usually find ON Whey in the 10lb bag form for under $70 dollars not the $80 dollars they have it listed for.
So, what you are saying is that as the price of raws increase just like everything else in the world right now, he should take a loss and not raise his price? Incredible
Can you post the numbers you used to figure that?
bcute4u
Registered
I use 3 protein powders per day -
Morning - Alltheywhey protein isolate - Creamy Vanilla - post workout.
Evening - EAS blend, vanilla (bought from costco)
Night before sleep - 12 hour Elite by Dymatize, vanilla again. This is a slow release protein.
I have also tried APC protein which I got from amazon.
I like all AlltheWhey protein isolate powder the best, its really yummy. Costwise 40$ for 80 servings is great. I am going to order some today. They have a 5 LB refill for $39.72 with free shipping.
Eas protein is so so and tastes a little chalky. 40$ for 85 servings, has casein in it.
12 hour Elite is the cheapest I found among night time protein. Got it for 36$ for 60 servings. I dont like the taste, its too chalky.
I am very cost conscious and research a lot of websites to get the best deals. I know what to look for in protein powders and just try to get a good price.
Morning - Alltheywhey protein isolate - Creamy Vanilla - post workout.
Evening - EAS blend, vanilla (bought from costco)
Night before sleep - 12 hour Elite by Dymatize, vanilla again. This is a slow release protein.
I have also tried APC protein which I got from amazon.
I like all AlltheWhey protein isolate powder the best, its really yummy. Costwise 40$ for 80 servings is great. I am going to order some today. They have a 5 LB refill for $39.72 with free shipping.
Eas protein is so so and tastes a little chalky. 40$ for 85 servings, has casein in it.
12 hour Elite is the cheapest I found among night time protein. Got it for 36$ for 60 servings. I dont like the taste, its too chalky.
I am very cost conscious and research a lot of websites to get the best deals. I know what to look for in protein powders and just try to get a good price.
TexanTA1996
Registered
So, what you are saying is that as the price of raws increase just like everything else in the world right now, he should take a loss and not raise his price? Incredible
Do you have any formal education in a relevant area of business? I certainly hope not. His protein is priced nearly DOUBLE that of ON, raw materials don't justify a price tag of almost $60 shipped for 4.6lbs of protein.
My last order I got 10lbs of ON for $68 shipped.
what exactly do you look for?
Well like I said we are all smart enough here to make our on decisions. We do not need you to tell us what to buy or not to buy I can make that decision all by myself thank you
Then you should just keep buying the ON no need to bash another companies product if you do not like it don't buy it PLAIN+SIMPLE!!!!!
well here is my last word on it. if you dont like it drop it. you have said your piece let it die. some products work great for some and some dont do shit for others. all you are doing is making unsubstantiated claims about the product/products.
What a lot of you fail to understand is that we do forget it... until ALN chooses to shamelessly plug their products in a thread like this on a regular basis.
Does it not go both ways?
workingatit said: "We do not need you to tell us what to buy or not to buy" and I completely agree with this statement. Which is why when a representative (somebody who is either being given free products or being paid by the said company) crowns a product of theirs as the best thing since sliced bread, I'm going to take offense to it ten times out of ten.
Does it not go both ways?
workingatit said: "We do not need you to tell us what to buy or not to buy" and I completely agree with this statement. Which is why when a representative (somebody who is either being given free products or being paid by the said company) crowns a product of theirs as the best thing since sliced bread, I'm going to take offense to it ten times out of ten.
no, it does not, because you have not used any of their products, all you base your bashing on is what you see as high prices.
Explain to me why it's necessary to try something that is blatantly overpriced?
- Status