Amino89's 50 Day Log with the NHA Trio (STOKED, Activate Xtreme, and X-Factor)

[DesertFox]

LOL, VERY painful , my lower back and trapz feel so sore. I debated getting out of bed this morning. Trained some arms today, kept it short but the workout was pretty good, updates will be up shortly.



Nice! Sounds like a solid stack man, I would do the X-Factor dosed 1 AM, 2 Pre-wo/ 1 PM or 1/1/1/1 spread evenly throughout the day. Same goes for AX 1/2/1 or 1/1/1/1. Good luck with your stack man, your going to like it!

how long before workout?

 

[TexanTA1996]

Well you are wrong the person running this log has nothing to do with AX or X-Factor at all. Quoting you (we've already established it's pretty worthless) where and when was this established? If you have read anything on the benefits of tran-resveratrol you would know it has many benefits.

What is Transresveratrol?Basic Information,Super Function and Researches of resveratrol and Polygonum Cuspidatum Extract.Polygonum Cuspidatum Extract.Resveratrol.transresveratrol.CAS.NO:510-36-0.3,5,4''-trihydroxy-trans-stilbene;C14H12O3.Polydatin,CA

The only crash course we have received is that you are one miserable character that has nothing good to say about anything.

It is actually sad that you would bother to be on a bodybuilding forum with nothing productive to say and the saddest thing is you have not been banned yet

And it is none of your business how old I am do some research instead of bitching and you would know the answer.

That article only means the world muscle 3 times, and none of it is in conjunction with the compound aiding in muscle building. Perhaps you would know this if you had simply searched the article for the term muscle.

Secondly, even if the article were to mention that this compound has significant muscle building properties (which it doesn't), the fact that you pretend to understand that article in depth is flat out ridiculous, and rather funny. I showed the link to a colleague of mine who's a doctor (has an undergrad in biology/chemistry), and he had a hard time making sense of it, let alone someone such as yourself who appears to have the intellect of a teenager. You aren't REMOTELY QUALIFIED to explain to me, or anyone for that matter, what that article means. Grow up.

That's why I asked how old you were. I think it's pretty clear you are a teenager, and you just have a long way to come in terms of logical thinking. Sorry, it's the truth.

 

[Amino89]

I'm gonna be 100% honest here, and I'm NOT basing you. How old are you? That's an honest question, because it might explain a lot.

If the product requires no PCT, do you realize that this means it has no adverse change on your natural hormone levels, meaning that-well-it basically doesn't do much, and is CERTAINLY not worth its outrageous price.

Drugs like Testosterone require post cycle therapy because they drastically alter your chemical make up, this is why you're able to make such huge gains in a 10, 12 or 14 week period, etc...

The person giving the "review" in this thread is a representative of the company who sells the product. In your ENTIRE life, have you ever seen a company intentionally give a bad review of its own product? Regardless of how good or bad the supplement is (we've already established it's pretty worthless), nobody is going to bash their own product.

The bottom line is that any product that doesn't require PCT, isn't changing your testosterone levels, meaning that it won't lead to any supplemental gains you couldn't make naturally. Any potential gains you would see would be a result of your increased calorie consumption, diet and training.

You just received a crash course on supplements and, in general, smart spending.

It's actually really sad how naive and gullible the average consumer in America has become.

That article only means the world muscle 3 times, and none of it is in conjunction with the compound aiding in muscle building. Perhaps you would know this if you had simply searched the article for the term muscle.

Secondly, even if the article were to mention that this compound has significant muscle building properties (which it doesn't), the fact that you pretend to understand that article in depth is flat out ridiculous, and rather funny. I showed the link to a colleague of mine who's a doctor (has an undergrad in biology/chemistry), and he had a hard time making sense of it, let alone someone such as yourself who appears to have the intellect of a teenager. You aren't REMOTELY QUALIFIED to explain to me, or anyone for that matter, what that article means. Grow up.

That's why I asked how old you were. I think it's pretty clear you are a teenager, and you just have a long way to come in terms of logical thinking. Sorry, it's the truth.

Guys lets keep the drama out of this thread.

I can assure you that workingatit is not a teen.

To address some of your issues, I'd like to point out that PCT is not necessary unless it causes HPTA shutdown (or negative implications to the proper functioning of the HPTA), which neither of the 3 products do. Squats cause a surge in GH and testosterone but do they require PCT. To say "If the product requires no PCT, do you realize that this means it has no adverse change on your natural hormone levels" is wrong.

I am affiliated with the product "STOKED" but in no way have any relations with either Molecular Nutrition (X-Factor) or Designer Supplements (AcitvaTe Xtreme) both of which products I am using alongside the STOKED. I have ran all 3 products stand alone in the past and can effectively gauge where the majority of the effects are coming from, from doing so.

Arachidonic Acid (X-Factor) is a Omega 6 fatty acid that is a precursor to prostaglandins that can affect inflammation which ultimately can lead to increased hypertrophy. Whereas Divanil's (ActivaTe Xtreme) mechanism of action is the ability to free up bound testosterone. Trans-Resveratrol (STOKED) is a natural SERM which is selective in regulating estrogen. By combining the 3 we get a great NHA by controlling estrogen and boosting T from a variety of angles alongside the pro-inflammation.

All 3 of these ingredients have studies to back them, if you are interested in the studies I can post them up....BTW just because I'm affiliated doesn't mean I'm not going to be 100% honest, I've maintained honesty throughout all of my replies since being affiliated with Anabolic Innovations. I've actually received a few grateful PM's for giving my input on 2 of our own products. I think the Healthy Cheat Food chips are too salty (even though it comes from potassium), and prefer EAA's over BCAA's (Excell). Taste is subjective and peoples opinion on the issue of BCAA's compared to EAA's will vary, I just try to provide honest opinion on what I've experienced. You can take it or leave it. I know some people that love the chips and prefer BCAA over EAA. It is all subjective, but when asking for someones advice I will give them my take.....NOW back to MY log.

If anyone would like to address any issues they may have please do it via PM.

 

[Amino89]

how long before workout?

I do it with my pre-workout meal, so 90-120 min. before the workout.

 

[workingatit43]

Guys lets keep the drama out of this thread.

I can assure you that workingatit is not a teen.

To address some of your issues, I'd like to point out that PCT is not necessary unless it causes HPTA shutdown (or negative implications to the proper functioning of the HPTA), which neither of the 3 products do. Squats cause a surge in GH and testosterone but do they require PCT. To say "If the product requires no PCT, do you realize that this means it has no adverse change on your natural hormone levels" is wrong.

I am affiliated with the product "STOKED" but in no way have any relations with either Molecular Nutrition (X-Factor) or Designer Supplements (AcitvaTe Xtreme) both of which products I am using alongside the STOKED. I have ran all 3 products stand alone in the past and can effectively gauge where the majority of the effects are coming from, from doing so.

Arachidonic Acid (X-Factor) is a Omega 6 fatty acid that is a precursor to prostaglandins that can affect inflammation which ultimately can lead to increased hypertrophy. Whereas Divanil's (ActivaTe Xtreme) mechanism of action is the ability to free up bound testosterone. Trans-Resveratrol (STOKED) is a natural SERM which is selective in regulating estrogen. By combining the 3 we get a great NHA by controlling estrogen and boosting T from a variety of angles alongside the pro-inflammation.

All 3 of these ingredients have studies to back them, if you are interested in the studies I can post them up....BTW just because I'm affiliated doesn't mean I'm not going to be 100% honest, I've maintained honesty throughout all of my replies since being affiliated with Anabolic Innovations. I've actually received a few grateful PM's for giving my input on 2 of our own products. I think the Healthy Cheat Food chips are too salty (even though it comes from potassium), and prefer EAA's over BCAA's (Excell). Taste is subjective and peoples opinion on the issue of BCAA's compared to EAA's will vary, I just try to provide honest opinion on what I've experienced. You can take it or leave it. I know some people that love the chips and prefer BCAA over EAA. It is all subjective, but when asking for someones advice I will give them my take.....NOW back to MY log.

If anyone would like to address any issues they may have please do it via PM.

That is some awesome info I would love to see the studies you have if you can post them that would be great bro

 

[Amino89]

Dinavil Studies, much more just search on Pubmed.gov

Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

(Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their ...[Planta Med. 1997] - PubMed Result
Sch??????¶ttner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.

Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universit??????¤t Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-)-secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-)-pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high. These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

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The Dinavil causes binding to the SHBG so you can "free up" total test. "Free test" is the bioavailable test that is usable.


Lignans interfering with 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone binding to human sex hormone-binding globulin.

(Lignans interfering with 5 alpha-dihydrotestostero...[J Nat Prod. 1998] - PubMed Result)

Sch??????¶ttner M, Spiteller G, Gansser D.

Lehrstuhl f??????¼r organische Chemie, Universit??????¤t Bayreuth, Germany.

The natural lignans (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran (1), (-)-matairesinol (2), (-)-secoisolariciresinol (3), (+/-)-enterolactone (4), (+/-)-enterodiol (5), and nordihydroguaiaretic acid (NDGA) (6) reduce the binding of 3H-labeled 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to human sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). (-)-3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran (1) has the highest binding affinity (Ka = 3.2 +/- 1.7 x 10(6)M-1) of all lignans investigated so far; the reversibility of its binding and a double reciprocal plot suggest a competitive inhibition of the SHBG-DHT interaction. Increasing hydrophobity in the aliphatic part of the lignans (butane-1,4-diol-butanolide-tetrahydrofuran structures) leads to higher binding affinity. In the aromatic part, a 3-methoxy-4-hydroxy substitution pattern is most effective for binding to SHBG.

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This study shows that when Dinavil (3,4-divanillytetrahydrofuran) is present it reduceds the binding of test to SHBG which causes an increase in bioavailable test (good for hypertrophy, strength, etc.)

 

[Amino89]

Arachidonic Acid

MOLECULAR NUTRITION - X-FACTOR

MOLECULAR NUTRITION - X-FACTOR

MOLECULAR NUTRITION - X-FACTOR

More ArA on pubmed.gov

 

[Amino89]

Trans-Resveratrol

The red wine polyphenol resveratrol displays bilevel inhibition on aromatase in breast cancer cells. Wang Y, Lee KW, Chan FL, Chen S, Leung LK. Toxicol Sci. 2006 Jul;92(1):71-7. Epub 2006 Apr 11

Estrogenic and antiestrogenic properties of resveratrol in mammary tumor models.Bhat KP, Lantvit D, Christov K, Mehta RG, Moon RC, Pezzuto JM. Cancer Res. 2001 Oct 15;61(20):7456-63

 

[Amino89]

The 3 posts reflect the ability of Dinavil to free up bound test, ArA to be a trigger to hypertrophy, and Trans-Resveratrol to be selective in regulating estrogen. Perfect 3 combo.

 

[workingatit43]

Awesome info bro. Besides the DOMS are there any major side effects you have heard of from X-Factor? I do not know much about it.

 

[DesertFox]

Awesome info bro. Besides the DOMS are there any major side effects you have heard of from X-Factor? I do not know much about it.

What are DOMS? How do they affect you? I am still in noob mode.

 

[Amino89]

Awesome info bro. Besides the DOMS are there any major side effects you have heard of from X-Factor? I do not know much about it.

What are DOMS? How do they affect you? I am still in noob mode.

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) usually happen 2-3 days after your workout. They are not your typical workout soreness. As for adverse side effects with ArA, I've heard of DOMS, and headaches. I've experienced the DOMS a couple times and headaches once.

 

[workingatit43]

What are DOMS? How do they affect you? I am still in noob mode.

DOMS

 

[workingatit43]

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) usually happen 2-3 days after your workout. They are not your typical workout soreness. As for adverse side effects with ArA, I've heard of DOMS, and headaches. I've experienced the DOMS a couple times and headaches once.

I may have to give X-Factor a shot. with Stoked and AX this seems like a killer cycle

 

[DesertFox]

Okay, so now I know how to administer the Activate Xtreme, X Factor, NOW ADAM, and Creatine Monohydrate. How exactly am I supposed to administer the ON %100 Whey Protein?

P.S. For the X Fac, and Activate X, I take them every single day even on off days correct?

P.S.S Not trying to steal your thread, just looking for help.

 

[Amino89]

Okay, so now I know how to administer the Activate Xtreme, X Factor, NOW ADAM, and Creatine Monohydrate. How exactly am I supposed to administer the ON %100 Whey Protein?

P.S. For the X Fac, and Activate X, I take them every single day even on off days correct?

P.S.S Not trying to steal your thread, just looking for help.

Feel free to ask any questions in this thread bro, I was just saying to keep drama out of it (to the guy above), LOL.

Yep, you take AX and XF every day, even off days. Take the ON 100% Whey immediately after you workout in water or low fat milk. About an hour or hour and half after the shake make sure you have a nutritious meal. You can use another shake in between a meal, as a snack. I wouldn't do more then 2 shakes a day, try to get the majority of your protein from whole foods. Good luck!

 

[workingatit43]

Feel free to ask any questions in this thread bro, I was just saying to keep drama out of it (to the guy above), LOL.

Yep, you take AX and XF every day, even off days. Take the ON 100% Whey immediately after you workout in water or low fat milk. About an hour or hour and half after the shake make sure you have a nutritious meal. You can use another shake in between a meal, as a snack. I wouldn't do more then 2 shakes a day, try to get the majority of your protein from whole foods. Good luck!

How much longer have you got on the cycle? What has been the best thing so far on the cycle? Is there any noticable recomp effect so far from the stack.

 

[Amino89]

How much longer have you got on the cycle? What has been the best thing so far on the cycle? Is there any noticable recomp effect so far from the stack.

Today is Day 30, so about 3 weeks left. I'm very impressed with the pumps, alpha male mentality, STRENGTH has been . I've noticed a bit of a recomp, something I can personally notice but pictures might not reflect it . I am not as impressed as the others have been in regard to how it affects libido, and LBM gains could be better. That reminds me I'm up to 4000 Calories this week, and we'll see how it goes.

 

[Amino89]

Day 28 & 29

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Day 28 (7/20)

OFF Day

Day 29 (07/21)

Legs [50 min.]

Squats (break parallel)
135 x 20
225 x 20
235 x 20
235 x 15

Lying Flat Leg Curl
125 x 20
125 x 20
125 x 20

Leg Extension
140 x 20
140 x 20
140 x 20

Seated Calf Raise
150 x 20 (2 sec. up, 2 sec. down tempo) PR! up 5lbs. for reps
150 x 20 (") PR! up 5lbs. for reps
150 x 20 (") PR! up 5lbs. for reps

 

[Amino89]

4 Weeks In! Updates!

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[size=+2]4 WEEK IN! UPDATES! [/size]

[size=+1]Weight Gain:[/size]
171.5 lbs. Up +1.5! I'm happy with the gain this past week, it appears most of it is LBM. I'm going to bump calories up to 4000 this week so I can continue to add some mass.

Pumps:
Pumps have been great so far on the stack, and continue to get more and more intense as the weeks go by. Vascularity is still good.

DOMS:
Soreness has been elevated since the beginning of the week, DOMS are starting to kick in. After that 20 repp'er leg session, legs feel VERY sore today.

Mood/Alpha Male Mentality:
Alpha male mentality has been up as usual, I really like this aspect of the stack it makes you want to lift more weight.

Sleep:
Dream recall has been amazing; sleep has been average nothing to spectacular this week.

Strength:
The strength effects have been awesome so far, every week I've continued to get stronger, and set new PR's. I didn't mark down PR's for yesterday's 20 reps leg session because I never usually go up that high, just thought I'd switch it up, and WOW it's definitely effective.

Libido:
No change.

Side Effects:
Increased sweating intra workout, oily skin, and 1 headache during the week.

Appetite:
No change.

Overall:
Overall I'm really liking this stack so far, I'm a little over half way through with the stack, and have been very impressed. Looking forward to the next 2-3 weeks.

 

[workingatit43]

Today is Day 30, so about 3 weeks left. I'm very impressed with the pumps, alpha male mentality, STRENGTH has been . I've noticed a bit of a recomp, something I can personally notice but pictures might not reflect it . I am not as impressed as the others have been in regard to how it affects libido, and LBM gains could be better. That reminds me I'm up to 4000 Calories this week, and we'll see how it goes.

You still got 3 weeks those numbers could go up more

 

[workingatit43]

More PR's also awesome

 

[Amino89]

So you've shelled out what, 100-200 bucks to gain 1.5lbs in 4 weeks (something that you could have done naturally with little effort) and also experienced some side effects? Sounds like one hell of a product

When will people realize that the only two things on this planet that will make drastic changes to your body are anabolic steroids and food...

Actually didn't "shell" out a dime (other then in shipping), I received all of these products for free from trades.

 

[Amino89]

You still got 3 weeks those numbers could go up more

More PR's also awesome

Thanks bro, more to come!

 

[Amino89]

Day 30

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Day 30 (07/22)

Chest, Abs [55 min.]

Incline BB Press
135 x 10
225 x 5
205 x 8 PR + 1 rep
205 x 6

Weighted Dips (break parallel)
105 x 8 PR + 1 rep
115 x 5
115 x 5 PR + 1 rep

Pec Dec
200 x 10
220 x 10 PR! +10lb for reps
200 x 10
140 x 30 sec. static holds/stretches

Push-ups (to failure)
45 PR!, up 10 reps
30 PR!, up 4 rep

15 min. Ab Circuit

Strength
More PR's! Strength up again, very impressed with the # on push-ups.

Pumps
Chest and front delts felt extremely tight and pumped.

Adverse Side Effects
None, no increased sweating.

DOMS
Still sore from Leg workout, especially hamstrings. Abs are going to be sore tomorrow.

Mood
Alphaness through the roof!

Overall
Overall great Chest, and Ab workout today, very happy with the workout. Looking forward to Thursday's Back and Shoulder workout.

 

[workingatit43]

Have you used Drive bro? I got great alpha male feeling from that does this stack kick it in higher?

 

[Amino89]

Completely irrelevant. What you've done, which is barley anything at all, could have been done naturally in half the time. The average person isn't going to "trade" for supplements, they are going to pay for them. By the way, would you care to purchase a bridge, treasure map, or a sack of magic beans, by any chance?

LOL

 

[Amino89]

Have you used Drive bro? I got great alpha male feeling from that does this stack kick it in higher?

Yeah, about a month before this stack I ran Drive and liked it a lot. Alpha feeling was good, but nothing even comparable to this stack. I think it's because of all this Icarrin.

 

[workingatit43]

I like it going to give this a shot soon

 

[Amino89]

I like it going to give this a shot soon

Nice! You won't be disappointed, log or review by any chance?