Police officer shoots unarmed man

[ZECH]

The thing is is that the cop pulled his weapon with his finger on the trigger.....I believe no cop should be in a situation where they could easily mistake a gun for a tazer.

There are valuable lessons to be learned here, I feel just as sorry for the cop and his family as I do for the deceased and his family... My friend was hit by a bus and the driver tried to commit suicide after he lost his job..... Imagine you were to make a fatal mistake one day while doing your job, right? I mean any of us could easily cause an accident to happen that takes a life how would you feel if everyone started telling you you're a piece of shit and that you did it on purpose you might start to believe them.....

You can tell I have really mixed emotions on this whole thing....

Absolutely. You make good points. Sadly, a taser is ALOT like a real gun. And I carry a glock model 22c with laser. It doesn't have a manual safety. I can see how it could be confused. But the taser is carried mainly in front on your belt and not on the side like a firearm usually. I think it would be hard to mistake it, but it's not impossible. Maybe there can be some changes made so this does not happen again.

 

[maniclion]

Absolutely. You make good points. Sadly, a taser is ALOT like a real gun. And I carry a glock model 22c with laser. It doesn't have a manual safety. I can see how it could be confused. But the taser is carried mainly in front on your belt and not on the side like a firearm usually. I think it would be hard to mistake it, but it's not impossible. Maybe there can be some changes made so this does not happen again.

Like all Tasers should be carried on the opposite side of your handgun, I'd think that would already have been protocol but I guess not....

 

[QuestionGuy]

he will always be a beat cop and never make it to detective.....

hahahahahha...well actually...Not that I need to explain my life story to anyone online because I really dont care...BUT, it doesn't work that way man, its not like in the movies..."Beat" and I repeat " "...cops have the most exciting and coolest job, detectives are just cops who investigate a crime after the fact and after the initial "beat" cops have done the most exciting and most IMPORTANT part...I have done work wiht Narcs and been on Vice as a "detective" neither of which are very apealing because its not like in the movies...Detectives have no autohirty over patrol officers becuase they are the same people just different jobs...our department rotates thru detectives, for example...EVERYONE starts out as a cop to gain experience you cant learn in a class room, then you move out to become a paper pusher (detective)...then after three - six years you must go back to patrol for a minimum of 1 year....Im not here to argue, i know you would never mouth off to me in a face to face situation, I respect everyones opinion on things but I jsut can't sit still when people are talking about things that they have no experience in....Im a melow person who just wants to live his life and be a part of his community.....this cop just fucked up, plain and simple he fucked up, and if his department is like my department, they will just stab him in the back and let him hang out to dry...But it is my assumption that he will not be charged in with any crime because he did not have an intent to shot his gun......and to say that a taser was not neccesary is not really true, it is very hard to control a persons body movements even when there are three cops around him...sure I can kick some serious ass but it is much harder to control a person wihtout serious bodily injurie, something only a person wiht experience knows................Either way, im not here to argue, i just want to life my life and be normal like everyone else, im nothing special, just a human man like all of you wiht the same emotions and feelings....I also love to educate everyone about how fucked up our job really is and how our administration will always save their own ass and make themselves look good thru our backs...........Peace and love to all...

 

[QuestionGuy]

FURTHERMORE.......Lets just all get along and have a good conversation....I would love to take all of you on a ridealong to see the real side, i guarantee that I would have you on my side, But i cant take you all, So I would love to educate you on how it really is....I beleive in what I do so much that it is actually eating me up inside and I WILL NOT be able to do it for much longer and keep my health.........If you are really interested in learning about the other side I encourage you to a few things.........

I really encourage you to read this:

"A Professor's Street Lessons" By George L. Kirkham

"Why Cops Hate You" by Chuck Milland

also

I have been where you fear to go...
I have seen what you fear to see...
I have done what you fear to do...
All these things I've done for you.

I am the one you lean upon...
The one you cast your scorn upon...
The one you bring your troubles to...
All these people I've been for you.

The one you ask to stand apart...
The one you feel should have no heart...
The one you call the man in blue...
But I am human just like you.

And through the years I've come to see...
That I'm not what you ask of me...
So take this badge and take this gun...
Will you take it? Will anyone?

And when you watch a person die...
And hear a battered baby cry...
Then so you think that you can be
All those things you ask of me...?

 

[AKIRA]

For someone who doesnt really care, you sure talk a lot.

 

[Hench]

For someone who doesnt really care, you sure talk a lot.

The exact same thought came into my head. Though he made a decent enough point.

 

[maniclion]

hahahahahha...well actually...Not that I need to explain my life story to anyone online because I really dont care...BUT, it doesn't work that way man, its not like in the movies..."Beat" and I repeat " "...cops have the most exciting and coolest job, detectives are just cops who investigate a crime after the fact and after the initial "beat" cops have done the most exciting and most IMPORTANT part...I have done work wiht Narcs and been on Vice as a "detective" neither of which are very apealing because its not like in the movies...Detectives have no autohirty over patrol officers becuase they are the same people just different jobs...our department rotates thru detectives, for example...EVERYONE starts out as a cop to gain experience you cant learn in a class room, then you move out to become a paper pusher (detective)...then after three - six years you must go back to patrol for a minimum of 1 year....Im not here to argue, i know you would never mouth off to me in a face to face situation, I respect everyones opinion on things but I jsut can't sit still when people are talking about things that they have no experience in....Im a melow person who just wants to live his life and be a part of his community.....this cop just fucked up, plain and simple he fucked up, and if his department is like my department, they will just stab him in the back and let him hang out to dry...But it is my assumption that he will not be charged in with any crime because he did not have an intent to shot his gun......and to say that a taser was not neccesary is not really true, it is very hard to control a persons body movements even when there are three cops around him...sure I can kick some serious ass but it is much harder to control a person wihtout serious bodily injurie, something only a person wiht experience knows................Either way, im not here to argue, i just want to life my life and be normal like everyone else, im nothing special, just a human man like all of you wiht the same emotions and feelings....I also love to educate everyone about how fucked up our job really is and how our administration will always save their own ass and make themselves look good thru our backs...........Peace and love to all...

I was just quipping on your lack of observation skills, beleive me I know plenty enough about cops because I had a job that put me in their presence for hours each day. I bet your reports are also a fucking nightmare with your scatterbrained rambling.....

 

[QuestionGuy]

nope not at all...in fact my reports for the most part are very good and hold im in court just fine....i write what comes in my mind and im sure there is no international rules on how to write shit online...........in fact, im very well educated and and speak three languages...english is my thirds language and I speak it with almost no accent....You didnt get my point in the previous threads, and you are continuing attacks on me so whatever...at least my M3 will beat your 1 series!!!!

 

[min0 lee]

.at least my M3 will beat your 1 series!!!!

Oh no he didn't!

 

[maniclion]

nope not at all...in fact my reports for the most part are very good and hold im in court just fine....i write what comes in my mind and im sure there is no international rules on how to write shit online...........in fact, im very well educated and and speak three languages...english is my thirds language and I speak it with almost no accent....You didnt get my point in the previous threads, and you are continuing attacks on me so whatever...at least my M3 will beat your 1 series!!!!

Maybe but my 400hp X6 would smoke your M3.....

 

[QuestionGuy]

fine then ill give you a ticket!

 

[Fetusaurus Rex]

fine then ill give you a ticket!

Farva: It doesn't matter cause I'm going to win ten million dollars.
Thorny: What are you going to do with ten million dollars, and you can't say buy the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Farva: I'd buy a ten million dollar car.
Thorny: That's a good investment but I'd still pull you over.
Farva: Bull Shit. You couldn't pull me over, and even if you did I'd activate my car's wings and I'd fly away.

 

[Will Brink]

ahh ok I understand I was wrong...

Yes you were. As I said, process worked as it was supposed to:
_____________________________________________________

OAKLAND, CA – BART issued a statement today regarding the arrest of former

BART Police Officer Johannes Mehserle involved in the death of Oscar Grant

on the morning of New Year’s Day at the Fruitvale BART Station.

“Yesterday Johannes Mehserle was arrested on an arrest warrant issued

by the Alameda County District Attorney’s office. This comes after the

BART Police Department conducted a thorough investigation that involved

nine detectives, which BART Police turned over to District Attorney Thomas

Orloff on Monday, January 12. BART Police Chief Gary Gee was informed that

an arrest warrant was issued and the Oakland Police Department had

effectuated an arrest. We’ve been asked to refrain from any further

comment regarding the arrest until Mr. Orloff addresses the media.”
______________________________________________________________


Don't know what the exact charges are yet, but I suspect the DA may try and go for a greater charge then is actually warranted by the evidence, to make the public happy and make a name for himself, etc.

 

[Fetusaurus Rex]

Yes you were. As I said, process worked as it was supposed to:
_____________________________________________________

OAKLAND, CA ??? BART issued a statement today regarding the arrest of former

BART Police Officer Johannes Mehserle involved in the death of Oscar Grant

on the morning of New Year???s Day at the Fruitvale BART Station.

???Yesterday Johannes Mehserle was arrested on an arrest warrant issued

by the Alameda County District Attorney???s office. This comes after the

BART Police Department conducted a thorough investigation that involved

nine detectives, which BART Police turned over to District Attorney Thomas

Orloff on Monday, January 12. BART Police Chief Gary Gee was informed that

an arrest warrant was issued and the Oakland Police Department had

effectuated an arrest. We???ve been asked to refrain from any further

comment regarding the arrest until Mr. Orloff addresses the media.???
______________________________________________________________


Don't know what the exact charges are yet, but I suspect the DA may try and go for a greater charge then is actually warranted by the evidence, to make the public happy and make a name for himself, etc.

Time to go after the rich fucks now like Madoff, that guy needs to rot.