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Chubby
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I don't know what is going to be the law in the future, but our law makers have to be very clear on this 'Mariage' thing, without leaving any loopholes. If they say maraige is between a man and a woman, then homos are in trouble. If they say marriage is between two persons, then in the future parents and children or brothers and sisters might use that loophole to get married. I know it sounds insane to me, but that is how people felt when they first heard about homos. There are already cases where parent and child or brother and sister got married.
Just my opinion.
Brother-sister couple challenges German incest law - Broadsheet - Salon.com
Just my opinion.
Brother-sister couple challenges German incest law - Broadsheet - Salon.com
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and that white power stuff, we gotta stop all that talk.a lot of cowards say things like that.that are too scared to say to someones face.and thats the truth. the only people i ever hear say that is in kkk parades and in prison.or scared people on the computer.and im sureyour a tuff guy.we got to move beyond that, as a society. we're always trying to devide ourseves in every situation.[/QUOTE
I'm not sure how to respond to this. Just know i'm smiling on the inside
IMO, there is a propper way to go about things and Bio is right, if that method were used we would have made progress. Instead, we have the wack jobs on either side working this one out. Get the sane people to the bargaining table, come up with a decent state by state strategy, and tackle this in the proper way, in an efficient manner. Don't just send groups of random individuals to harass other people and stage support rallies for a general cause. They have got to have the worst strategy ever. CA voted it down and the courts struck it down, go somewhere else and make progress so that CA follows suit.
And, i have to agree with crono, why other people feel the need to get involved with something that doesn't effect them and clearly shows inequality to another group is beyond me.
And, i have to agree with crono, why other people feel the need to get involved with something that doesn't effect them and clearly shows inequality to another group is beyond me.
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sounds very "seperate but equal" to me. and we all know how well that philosophy worked.
I heard he provides Tallcall with relief every now and then.
sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Tallcall would you like to get married??
I'm a religious guy, and I don't believe in homosexuality, but I don't discriminate people just because of it because we all sin and are all as bad as each other.
I think maybe there could be a homosexual marriage of some sort but it would only be a legal one rather than a religious one. Which begs the question, how do we define marriage?? To solve this problem we will have to go to basics and outline what exactly is entailed in a marriage and see if a homosexual relationship fits the bill.
I don't think it's possible EVER to have a religious gay marriage unless you start your own cult, which is sad, but it's just how things go.
I'm a religious guy, and I don't believe in homosexuality, but I don't discriminate people just because of it because we all sin and are all as bad as each other.
I think maybe there could be a homosexual marriage of some sort but it would only be a legal one rather than a religious one. Which begs the question, how do we define marriage?? To solve this problem we will have to go to basics and outline what exactly is entailed in a marriage and see if a homosexual relationship fits the bill.
I don't think it's possible EVER to have a religious gay marriage unless you start your own cult, which is sad, but it's just how things go.
There are a few churches out there that now believe homosexuality is alright in the eyes of God.
Ehhh like which??? I really haven't heard of even one.
But regardless, the US government is a Christian-based organisation and it follows the written laws in the Bible.
I don't mean this in a spiteful way, but if homosexual marriage is right, why is incest bad???? I mean both are looked down on because of the roots in religious taboo
But regardless, the US government is a Christian-based organisation and it follows the written laws in the Bible.
I don't mean this in a spiteful way, but if homosexual marriage is right, why is incest bad???? I mean both are looked down on because of the roots in religious taboo
Lutherans divided over policy recommendation on gay pastors - Southern Voice Atlanta
a quick search leads to others. this is an issue even Christianity is divided over. How it has come to this i can't comprehend. but it ihas
a quick search leads to others. this is an issue even Christianity is divided over. How it has come to this i can't comprehend. but it ihas
Yeah except for that whole separation of church and state in our Constitution... Or did you not learn about that in middle school, which I am assuming, from your post, is your highest level of education?
Congratulations, you are officially an ignorant American who has been had by the "slippery slope" argument. Go research the effects of incest. Compare them with the effects on gay marriage. Then ask yourself: what is the compelling government interest in continuing to ban incest? It is quite high. What is the compelling government interest in continuing to ban gay marriage? There is absolutely none.
I'm not sure if you are serious with this post because I didn't think people were that ignorant... but yes, you can get married in the United States without the involvement of a church.......... and yes, this is all gays are asking for.
Woah woah woah hold on to your horses.
I'm sorry if I offended you with my post but I didn't mean it in a SPITEFUL way, rather a contemplative way, as in just to think about it. I'm not sayin incest is good, infact I'm against incest but not against homosexuality. If it is consensual incest, the effects aren't great. Especially if they don't have children. And by your reaction of me even suggesting incest is not a problem proves my point. If I genuinely thought that, and I provided evidence for why it isn't a bad thing, you still wouldn't accept it as a social norm. See?? (I'm not comparing the two, and I cant emphasise enough how I don't have a problem with homosexuality but do with incest)
I'm not arguing the boat of incest, I'm just saying the way we see homosexuality is not how everyone sees it.
Secondly I'm not American, but afaik the foundations of America's law were extracted from religion. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear in my post.
And finally, yes there is non-religious marriages and that is what I'm talking about should be possible for gays.
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Chubby
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So what is marriage ? Is it between a man and a woman or between two persons?
If marriage is between a man and a woman, then all the homos and incests are out.
If it is between two persons, then homos and incests should be allowed to marry legally.
We have to pick one.
If marriage is between a man and a woman, then all the homos and incests are out.
If it is between two persons, then homos and incests should be allowed to marry legally.
We have to pick one.
Your not making any friends with gay people nor the South with that comment.
im not really sure chobby is here to make friends
Chubby
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Give me a break guys. I just think that marriage is between 'two persons' is not good idea. It will allow brother and sister or parent and child to get marry in the future. We have to find something else that will allow homos to get married but not brother and sister or parent and child and without destroying the image of marriage. What do you guys think? 
God you are a retard. With marriage as between a man and a woman currently, are brother (man) and sister (woman) allowed to marry? No.
1) We have incest laws currently in place; 2) There is a compelling governmental interest in keeping those laws in place... in other words, banning incest meets strict scrutiny, while banning gay marriage does not.
You have such strong concerns about incest and make bold assertions that it could be allowed eventually if gays get the right to marry... but have you even read one court case in which incestual marriage was discussed? I thought not, as you are too ignorant to actually research how things will play out.
Oh, and stop using the word "homos," as that is entirely disrespectful to that group and makes you look like a god damn redneck piece of trash when you use it.
We don't have the right to decide how our chosen government administers taxes?
Not sure what you are getting at?
I thought they were following a Greek-Roman Democracy model with a dash of all men being equal. Freedom of speech, press, etc aren't biblical items, neither is right to bear arms. Not all of the founding fathers were devout religious men and in fact they fought over keeping the documentation free of any religious spin.
Give me a break guys. I just think that marriage is between 'two persons' is not good idea. It will allow brother and sister or parent and child to get marry in the future. We have to find something else that will allow homos to get married but not brother and sister or parent and child and without destroying the image of marriage. What do you guys think?
If my son or daughter were to become gay and then decide to get married with the same sex I can only accept it.
Incest is a whole different ballgame.
Hypocrite much?!??!?!
Damn man if you are that desperate to bang her ass, it sounds like you might be gay, and maybe that could be the reason that she is not satisfied.
