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just wondering everyones opinion on pre workout supps like NO2 explode, or black powder? i like the BSN explode for like the first 3 weeks but then i dont see the pumps anymore and there isnt very many servings?

i just got black powder about a month ago which im half way thru and it still works i actually like it alot anyone use this?

anyone think that preworkout supps are a waste? if so what would you prefer to use? to gain the same thing?
 
Definitely a waste of money. NO Xplode is basically nitric oxide, CEE, and various stimulants. The nitric oxide is a vasodilator which allows for a degree of increased blood flow and therefore gives you that sensation of 'pump'. However, it isn't actually doing anything to increase performance. An alternative would be creating monohydrate or ethyl ester and caffeine/ephedrine if you are into the stimulants.

It certainly doesn't not work. But its not cost effective at all.
 
TheRhino said:
just wondering everyones opinion on pre workout supps like NO2 explode, or black powder? i like the BSN explode for like the first 3 weeks but then i dont see the pumps anymore and there isnt very many servings?

i just got black powder about a month ago which im half way thru and it still works i actually like it alot anyone use this?

anyone think that preworkout supps are a waste? if so what would you prefer to use? to gain the same thing?
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I used to take NO Shotgun from VPX. If you have money this is a very good supplement. Now I take only preworkout meal and coffee about an hour before my workout. I blend oats, whey protein isolate with milk, fruits and green vegis.:D
 
If you have the cash, give SuperPump 250 or NO Shotgun a try. These are by far the best two in my opinion. NO Shotgun is cool because it's zero carb, but SuperPump makes me go ballistic.

Note that this is the LAST supplement you need. It goes in this order of importance, for me:
- FOOD
- Protein
- Vitamins
- Creatine
- Fish Oil
- Amino Acids
- Other stuff like NO Shotgun
 
m11 said:
Definitely a waste of money. NO Xplode is basically nitric oxide, CEE, and various stimulants. The nitric oxide is a vasodilator which allows for a degree of increased blood flow and therefore gives you that sensation of 'pump'. However, it isn't actually doing anything to increase performance. An alternative would be creating monohydrate or ethyl ester and caffeine/ephedrine if you are into the stimulants.

It certainly doesn't not work. But its not cost effective at all.
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see i have ben weighing this out lately with everything ive tried and i got to thinking about it they have never really done anything for me. with what comes in them i get the same thing from my clen, but i used to take creatine a long time ago before prework supps like NO but im just really thinking about it and its a waste of money the more i think about it. and your right its not cost effective,

i think im gonna try the mono and stick with my eca and clen they are way cheaper and last a longer time cause with the clen i cycle 2 wks on and 2 off so im not taking freaking 2 ml a day like a crack head

nice to get some opinions thanks m11.
 
We have a new product out it is part of Anabolic Innovations White Label products. It is called Maniac and is 80 servings for $33. I will try to see if sbmuscle will be picking up the line.
 
SANN's V12 Magnum & V12 Hp844 both are solid products.

V12 Magnum with creatine & Hp844 is without creatine.
 
I like the Shotgun/ Synthesize stack. I think there is a new (and improved) shotgun out right now.
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
I thought the discussion was about PRE-Workout Supps & not fat-loss supps, though I agree with you on caffeine.

juggernaut said:
mines cheaper bitch!
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I tried NO2 explode and it did nothing for me.

The only preworkout supplement that I ever liked was ultimate orange, a formula that had ephedra in it. That actually had a kick.

Now I just stick to a cup of coffee.
 
juggernaut said:
caffiene and bronkaid an hour before a workout. It's cheap, and it burns fat like crazy.
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Same thing that I take. A whole bunch of caffeine pills is like 4 bucks at walmart and a bunch of bronkaid is cheap too. A container of creatine mono is like 20 dollars and lasts a long time.

I got a hold of some no-xplode and it basically does what you would expect it to do based on the ingredients. there's no reason why it wouldnt work. The ingredients are on the side for you to read.

It's just a cost thing.
 
Its a complete waste of money as now you know it pumps your body for just 2-3weeks after that its a complete waste so try out other supplements you trainer would tell you and make a schedule when to take what....that is when to take fat burners when to take creatine etc.....
 
N.O. Shotgun FTW

VPX's N.O. Shotgun is great!

it has Branched chain amino acids in it and it has 20 Grams of protein as well.

just mix a scoop with about 8 oz of water and just down it and your set!

its a subtle "Kick" but not too drastic.

you will notice an increase in your vascularity for sure :thumb:
 
Top 3 are definitely NO-Xplode, Shotgun, and SuperPump. I think each person reacts differently to all of them and has to give them all a try to see which has most benefit.

Just my 2cents

Str8Con
 
My favorite pre-workouts supps have been:

-VPX Shotgun
-Gaspari Superpump 250
-MT Nano Vapor
-ALRI WTF Pumped
-AAEFX Cell Rush + Nytric Pro
 
Yeah, well we cant all be sponsored and pampered by a supp company like you Eric.

Quite honestly, coffee has research backing its effectiveness as an aid to training. Plus, for god sakes, its cheap and available anywhere without shipping!
 
juggernaut said:
Yeah, well we cant all be sponsored and pampered by a supp company like you Eric.

Quite honestly, coffee has research backing its effectiveness as an aid to training. Plus, for god sakes, its cheap and available anywhere without shipping!
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What the fu%k was that response about Juggernaut?

A. I was just listing the pre-workout supps that have worked well for me in the past.
B. What does me having sponsorship have to do with it.
C. I earned my sponsorships...they were not handed to me.

Seriously man, what is your problem?
 
I thought this post was brilliant - it's a recipe and a rationale for a home-made preworkout stack, just like mamma used to make...

The Boost Your Pump Stack

SUPPLEMENT DOSE
  • Arginine 3-5 g 30-60 minutes preworkout
  • Creatine 3-5 g immediately preworkout
  • Glycerol 10-30 g 60 minutes preworkout

MariAnne's note: I'd probably knock back the glycerol and arginine with a caffeine tab when I'm getting set to leave for the gym, then toss the creatine into my pre/post workout shake, with some dextrose.

In fact, I'm going to try it this way tomorrow!

Great thread.
 
USP Labs Jack3d. Great stuff. Intensity has not really diminished after about 4 months of use.
 
gopro said:
What the fu%k was that response about Juggernaut?

A. I was just listing the pre-workout supps that have worked well for me in the past.
B. What does me having sponsorship have to do with it.
C. I earned my sponsorships...they were not handed to me.

Seriously man, what is your problem?
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My response was to merely point out that most people are looking for something cheap and effective-such as the case with Built's recipe. Nice work on that one MA.

Also,
A. The majority of the brands you listed are your sponsor.
B. In the past, you've shamelessly pimped your sponsors. Which I can understand.
C. I never said you didnt earn your sponsorships.
D. I just dont like you, or what you represent.

Hope this clears this up.
:offtopic:
 
juggernaut said:
My response was to merely point out that most people are looking for something cheap and effective-such as the case with Built's recipe. Nice work on that one MA.

Also,
A. The majority of the brands you listed are your sponsor.
B. In the past, you've shamelessly pimped your sponsors. Which I can understand.
C. I never said you didnt earn your sponsorships.
D. I just dont like you, or what you represent.

Hope this clears this up.
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-The original poster, who is the one I was answering to said NOTHING ABOUT CHEAP my friend. He wanted to know what people liked.

-Only two of the brands were my sponser, so sorry there.

-I only "pimp" brands that have a proven track record with me. I have had offers from many companies that I have TURNED DOWN because their products did nothing for me. I can only stand behind what I feel works.

-What do I represent? I am a trainer/coach/writer/pro bodybuilder. I help people reach their goals. I spend most of my day giving out free advice. I am a skinny guy that worked his ass off to achieve what I have when everyone around me told me I was wasting my time.

Whatever bro...you may think whatever you want, but there was ZERO reason for you to have jumped on me for my post that simply answered the question of the member.
 
juggernaut said:
Hey it's ok. Not everyone has to agree with you or your tactics. Nor does everyone have to like you as a person or a writer.
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Ok buddy. Cool. Not having you onboard is not having me lose any sleep :thumb:

For the original poster: Anyway...my choices for best pre-workout supps stand. They all work better than the other ones I have tried...although I never tried Black Powder.
 
gopro said:
Ok buddy. Cool. Not having you onboard is not having me lose any sleep :thumb:

For the original poster: Anyway...my choices for best pre-workout supps stand. They all work better than the other ones I have tried...although I never tried Black Powder.
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I didn't see any pro-hormones on your list...what gives?
 
Chalk up another vote for Gaspari Nutrition's Super Pump. I don't compete so I dont' give a rat's ass about vascularity, but I love the psychological boost it gives me. Before SP I'd hit a wall during squat sets where I would absolutely dread getting under that bar one more time. After SP I can't wait, let me at it, I'm ready for more.

And on a side note to Eric: It's okay man, I like you. :D (But you're gonna have to hook me up with some great sample packets at this year's Expo. ;) )
 
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