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Move Over Jay Cutler...

What gives out first, you back or legs?

Hard to tell...probably my back just because I know my form is bad, but at this point, it's not worth fixing, cause I don't know if I can fix it to be honest. I'm just going back to my wide stance like I used for powerlifting when I got up to a 385 squat and that's that.
 
How often do you do direct core work. Also I read something by Alwyn Cosgrove not long back with core training....may want to google that
 
Hard to tell...probably my back just because I know my form is bad, but at this point, it's not worth fixing, cause I don't know if I can fix it to be honest. I'm just going back to my wide stance like I used for powerlifting when I got up to a 385 squat and that's that.

I went back to the wide leg too, and the power seems so much better as well as my form. Digging the power lifting technique over the bodybuilding
kris
 
I went back to the wide leg too, and the power seems so much better as well as my form. Digging the power lifting technique over the bodybuilding
kris

yeah, it's much better for me, I just don't see the point in fighting it anymore just because some people say it isn't the right way. You know what, it might not be, but until I cripple myself, I'm going to keep doing it this way because in fact, I feel there is more of a chance to cripple myself if I try to squat the so called correct way.

My body leans too far forward with a close stance. I'm convinced it's my levers. Wide stance is the only way to keep my back somewhat upright.
 
when you say close stance, how close?
Last time I tried less than shoulder with, I jacked up my back...I stay at or a little wider than shoulder with...
 
when you say close stance, how close?
Last time I tried less than shoulder with, I jacked up my back...I stay at or a little wider than shoulder with...

to me close stance is shoulder width. i tend to go a bit more than one and a half times shoulder width minimum for my comfy stance.
 
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to me close stance is shoulder width. i tend to go a bit more than one and a half times shoulder width minimum for my comfy stance.
nice.
HA! I just got busted by a co-worker. I was visualizing the stance width with my hands just now. Was thinking in my head: if this is MY shoulder width...(with hands in front of me at shoulder width...) and this would be should and half...while moving hands out to said width...
I looked up to see a co-worker giving me a quizzical look....:hmmm:
I could only say: What? scientific experiment...go back to your latte....
 
Hey my Friend, there is no right or wrong stance in my opinion, we are all different and what works for me, may or may not work for you, just a difference of 1" can blow a back or knees out ya know!!! I go just wider than shoulder width, with my feet angled slightly out (toes pointing away from each other) and I drop my shoulders back and down (contracting the lats) so the bar can hit on the lower trap region, that helps me feel like I'm solid, and wont lean forward or back, and the bar is over my butt and heels, not knees so I'm in good form, hope that made sense!!! Your doin great anyway imo!!!
 
Nov 8

Incline Bench Press
195 x 3
225 x 3
250 x 10

Seated OH Press
135 x 3
150 x 3
170 x 10

Chest Supported Rows (RI=60 sec)
110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10

Neutral Grip Pulldowns (RI=60 sec)
115 x 10
115 x 10
115 x 10
 
Nov 10

Squats
135 x 5
185 x 5
215 x 5
250 x 5
285 x 5

Bench Press
135 x 5
175 x 5
205 x 5
240 x 5
275 x 5

Chest Supported Rows
90 x 5
105 x 5
125 x 5
145 x 5
165 x 5

Decline Crunches
BW+35 x 12
BW+35 x 12
 
Nov 12

Incline Bench Press
135 x 5
155 x 5
185 x 5
215 x 5
250 x 3

Chest Supported Rows
90 x 5
105 x 5
125 x 5
145 x 5
167.5 x 3

Seated OH Press
95 x 5
115 x 5
140 x 5
165 x 5
190 x 3

Chinups
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW+5 x 5
BW+45 x 3
 
How's the squats go ?

well the good news is that today they felt perfect. form was top notch and i was even going way below parallel with a lot closer stance than i usually use. the bad news is that it was only 215 pounds. We'll see how things go when the weights go up in the next couple of weeks
 
Interesting discussion is going down over there. Hope i would get some thing which i need . Thanks a lot for all the posts.
 
The squats couldn't have inflicted too much damage if you were able to DL 2 days later.
 
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