For those who dont smoke weed, WHY?

[SYN]

Then there is always this answer. "none of my friends do that.." Well thats just dynamite. Friends of mine and the associations I know and even the people just known through talk amongst others are all the ones I am referring to in my statistics. In other words, I dont have personal hard knowledge of anyone doing anything functional at any time while they are high. I have read it on here and maybe another forum, but they could all be liars and they could all have an off high day.

But telling me you know so and so and they do this and that wont convince me. You can say God can create a planet while high. Because of my social history and my minor obvious observations, seeing is believing.

So, parting shot, Ill just take what you said, shake my head and say: Sure you do.

Maybe the reason I can say "none of my friends do that" is because they don't. Because I don't enjoy hanging out with people who's only goal in life is to sit on a couch watching re-runs of 'the real world' and 'jersey shore' two shows I've never even seen a whole episode of because I'm too busy getting high to watch tv. We used to hang out a lot with the people we got our pot from. We don't anymore. Know why? Because they never wanted to do anything other sit around in their one bedroom apartment and watch tv all day. Which is the same reason I don't hang out with my friend Amanda. Or Tony, or Dave, or Heather, or Matt, or Josh, or the bunches of other people I no longer associate with because they don't want to get off their ass to do anything. None of my friends do that, because I got rid of all the ones that did. And I still have plenty of friends who all smoke weed and are very active people.


Obviously you don't smoke pot. And obviously you don't REALLY know anybody who does. I smoke pot every day of my life. I'm "high" as you'd call it 24/7. I haven't turned my television on in literally weeks. My computer hasn't even been turned on since Friday. Why? Because I've been too busy helping my fiance weld the exhaust on our car. I've been too busy riding a four wheeler 2 miles into the woods only to walk another mile or so so that when we get there we can carry water around all day. All the while puffing on my pipe. Now I'm not sure what you'd call it but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't call a person carrying 10 gallons of water at a time, 500 feet, for hours, lazy.

You on the other hand, Mr.Straightlaces, have had enough down time to make 21 posts here since the last time I even had five minutes to log on.

 

[Little Wing]

cops_to_california_voters_legalize_it


Listening to the critics, you'd think the only people calling for an end to marijuana prohibition in California were a bunch of deadbeat, dirty stoners -- which, if true, might be cause for concern, as polls show most residents of the state support legalizing the much-maligned weed. But contrary to stereotype, a broad coalition supports Proposition 19, the initiative on the November ballot that would legalize marijuana, from labor unions to law enforcement, with dozens of retired cops and judges lending their support to the argument that it is prohibition -- not pot smoking -- that poses the real threat to society....

 

[AKIRA]

Maybe the reason I can say "none of my friends do that" is because they don't. Because I don't enjoy hanging out with people who's only goal in life is to sit on a couch watching re-runs of 'the real world' and 'jersey shore' two shows I've never even seen a whole episode of because I'm too busy getting high to watch tv. We used to hang out a lot with the people we got our pot from. We don't anymore. Know why? Because they never wanted to do anything other sit around in their one bedroom apartment and watch tv all day. Which is the same reason I don't hang out with my friend Amanda. Or Tony, or Dave, or Heather, or Matt, or Josh, or the bunches of other people I no longer associate with because they don't want to get off their ass to do anything. None of my friends do that, because I got rid of all the ones that did.


Obviously you don't smoke pot. And obviously you don't REALLY know anybody who does. I smoke pot every day of my life. I'm "high" as you'd call it 24/7. I haven't turned my television on in literally weeks. My computer hasn't even been turned on since Friday. Why? Because I've been too busy helping my fiance weld the exhaust on our car. I've been too busy riding a four wheeler 2 miles into the woods only to walk another mile or so so that when we get there we can carry water around all day. All the while puffing on my pipe. Now I'm not sure what you'd call it but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't call a person carrying 10 gallons of water at a time, 500 feet, for hours, lazy.

You on the other hand, Mr.Straightlaces, have had enough down time to make 21 posts here since the last time I even had five minutes to log on.

Sure you do.

The fact that you did your homework on how many posts ive posted maybe shows that youre a functional pothead. Congrats.

 

[SYN]

Sure you do.

The fact that you did your homework on how many posts ive posted maybe shows that youre a functional pothead. Congrats.

You call that a rebuttal? I call it a pathetic deflection of the fact that while I've been smoking pot and lugging buckets of water through the woods you've sitting on your ass exercising your dick beaters all weekend.

You don't know me at all, let alone well enough to have any kind of clue about what I do and don't do with my days. So....unless you have some kind of argument that suggests something other than you being a debate inept monkey.....just shut up because you look stupid.

 

[SYN]

Here's some pictures of me being a lazy stoner

Me watching tv

Another one of me watching tv while I'm 'high'

This is me at a frat party smoking weed

Another of me being fat and lazy

Oh, there I go again watching that t.v.

Sitting on the couch eating ring dings and getting high.

 

[vortrit]

Sitting on the couch eating ring dings and getting high.

That must be some good stuff!

 

[REDDOG309]

I have to agree with Syn, i've smoked weed for a good 30 years or more and i never sit around vegging out in front of the tv. and like her i was a couple of pokes per hour, every hour. people who smoke weed and sit on the couch watching tv are the same as people who don't smoke weed and sit on the couch all day. lazy is lazy.

 

[Little Wing]

the new term for people who are online too much is mouse potato btw.

 

[KelJu]

Then there is always this answer. "none of my friends do that.." Well thats just dynamite. Friends of mine and the associations I know and even the people just known through talk amongst others are all the ones I am referring to in my statistics. In other words, I dont have personal hard knowledge of anyone doing anything functional at any time while they are high. I have read it on here and maybe another forum, but they could all be liars and they could all have an off high day.

But telling me you know so and so and they do this and that wont convince me. You can say God can create a planet while high. Because of my social history and my minor obvious observations, seeing is believing.

So, parting shot, Ill just take what you said, shake my head and say: Sure you do.

Well, you are falling into the same trap. You are going on personal experience as well. Nobody can do any real world sociological studies at the moment, so we are reduced to personal experience.

I agree with Syn that the friends I choose, aren't the lazy sitting around on the couch type of people. We go nature walking, to the beech, camping, to parties, play sports, workout, play on golf courses, ect. If we were bored we would take a furniture moving dolly and ride it down the golf course path until we were chased off by security. For a good 3 years solid, we got blazed and went to play discgolf on Sundays.

Maybe you need different friends or something. I don't know what to tell you.

 

[REDDOG309]

I agree, smoking a bean and walking in the woods for hours is awesome. and i would love to fire up and then get on that tube that Syn was riding. thats looks like a lot of fun.

 

[AKIRA]

Well, you are falling into the same trap. You are going on personal experience as well. Nobody can do any real world sociological studies at the moment, so we are reduced to personal experience.

I agree with Syn that the friends I choose, aren't the lazy sitting around on the couch type of people. We go nature walking, to the beech, camping, to parties, play sports, workout, play on golf courses, ect. If we were bored we would take a furniture moving dolly and ride it down the golf course path until we were chased off by security. For a good 3 years solid, we got blazed and went to play discgolf on Sundays.

Maybe you need different friends or something. I don't know what to tell you.

Ill quote and reply to you cuz I like you and SYN sucks. She posted pics of her chubby self in hopes to disagree with my real life experience. Syn Sucks.

In all fairness, I am making judgment on what I see and what I dont really know. On the other forum, I read a post that someone admitted to needing to smoke weed in order to do certain activities that are not vegging out. Its as if they need it to live. No medical reason, just a habitual ritual. Hmm, well I wouldnt put it in the same category as brushing your teeth, but I could put it into a person that has to have a beer everyday. Syn needs it to make breakfast, go watertubing, and sitting on her favorite food that requires her to hit the treadmill, which shes been missing out on it seems.

Basically, if you need it, there is a problem. However, what I dont know and what you dont know are those that do smoke weed may actually do it cuz they need to but will never admit it. If I needed it to play a game to get a high score, study to get an A, have confidence to talk to a girl, with my pride, I would never ever say that I rely on an illegal buzz in order to do any of these things. You can put this up there with steroids, caffeine, alcohol, I am not discriminating. Ill be just as prejudice as with any drug.

To say I need different friends is a little useless cuz those that did smoke weed were discarded after a few instances of them just being zombies. Sure they could build a building while I am not around, but Id be more a fool expecting that than expecting them to do what theyve always done. Nothing.

 

[KelJu]

To say I need different friends is a little useless cuz those that did smoke weed were discarded after a few instances of them just being zombies. Sure they could build a building while I am not around, but Id be more a fool expecting that than expecting them to do what theyve always done. Nothing.

That was poor wording on my part. I meant to say that if you have friends that smoke weed and veg out most of the time, you should cut ties with them. I didn't mean to say that your friends suck because they don't smoke weed and while and staying active.

Basically, if you need it, there is a problem. However, what I dont know and what you dont know are those that do smoke weed may actually do it cuz they need to but will never admit it. If I needed it to play a game to get a high score, study to get an A, have confidence to talk to a girl, with my pride, I would never ever say that I rely on an illegal buzz in order to do any of these things.

I think I see what you are saying, but I just don't think of it like that. If adderall, ritalin, and caffeine helps get me a 95 on a final exam instead of an 85, I'll admit that the drugs gave me an edge. I'll go as far as to say it is cheating. If steroids get me from 400 on squats to 475, I'll admit that steroids gave me a huge boost. On drugs, I am generally funnier and friendlier person. Trust me, when I am sober, nobody would want to be around me. I don't want to be around myself when I'm sober.

If that means I have a major personality problem, then so be it. You take the hand you were dealt and do your best you can with it. I supplement my mind with high power drugs do make my life better. I am pretty sure I would have eaten a bullet a long time ago had I never started doing drugs.

 

[AKIRA]

I think I see what you are saying, but I just don't think of it like that. If adderall, ritalin, and caffeine helps get me a 95 on a final exam instead of an 85, I'll admit that the drugs gave me an edge. I'll go as far as to say it is cheating. If steroids get me from 400 on squats to 475, I'll admit that steroids gave me a huge boost. On drugs, I am generally funnier and friendlier person. Trust me, when I am sober, nobody would want to be around me. I don't want to be around myself when I'm sober.

If that means I have a major personality problem, then so be it. You take the hand you were dealt and do your best you can with it. I supplement my mind with high power drugs do make my life better. I am pretty sure I would have eaten a bullet a long time ago had I never started doing drugs.

Were talking about abuse. Using ritalin to get a better grade is what it is for. Taking steroids to get stronger is 1 thing, but over doing it is another (this one is subjective). Using weed or pain killers for pain is again using it for what its prescribed. But to smoke weed, get drunk or take steroids, just to have a good night life or even to take a walk in the woods is the culture I am not into.

 

[KelJu]

Were talking about abuse. Using ritalin to get a better grade is what it is for. Taking steroids to get stronger is 1 thing, but over doing it is another (this one is subjective). Using weed or pain killers for pain is again using it for what its prescribed. But to smoke weed, get drunk or take steroids, just to have a good night life or even to take a walk in the woods is the culture I am not into.

Fair enough. There are varying degrees of how far into the drug culture you want to go. But do you think it should be illegal for me to smoke weed and go walk though the woods?

 

[AKIRA]

You might start a forest fire, idiot.

 

[AKIRA]

Sorry, its nice that we can laugh. I gotta shit.

But to directly answer you, no. Alcohol is legal and if you wanted to take a bottle of goldschlagger with you on your trip to see Blair Witch, Id be sitting back saying "Why?"

My room mate has zero confidence and always talks about how many girls hes gonna get before we go to a bar. Well, right when we get there, the fucker sits at the bar, puts his elbows on the counter, loses all energy, then freezes while watching tv. I say to him, did we come here to watch tv? As soon as hes absolutely wasted, he starts talking and we dont have to go into the failing results. The point is his problem lies within and relying on alcohol is misleading. He uses it to let loose, but he doesnt need it. Even if it did always get him girls, it is pathetic to rely on something just to experience something else.

Those that smoke weed to do anything, everything, most things, are dead. Theyve got no idea whats going on. Its ok to do it every so often but even then, its a turn off (see the other thread). However, I get drunk every so often, but not every day, not every week, and not before I post up pictures of myself.

Heh, posting those pics mean nothing. Syn coulda been doing nothing for hours before any of those huge activities she displayed were performed. Or. She needed weed just to do those huge activities. Like I said, they mean nothing.

 

[SYN]

Well, you are falling into the same trap. You are going on personal experience as well. Nobody can do any real world sociological studies at the moment, so we are reduced to personal experience.

I agree with Syn that the friends I choose, aren't the lazy sitting around on the couch type of people. We go nature walking, to the beech, camping, to parties, play sports, workout, play on golf courses, ect. If we were bored we would take a furniture moving dolly and ride it down the golf course path until we were chased off by security. For a good 3 years solid, we got blazed and went to play discgolf on Sundays.

Maybe you need different friends or something. I don't know what to tell you.

I think that's why he started this thread to begin with is because of friends. I think his buddies toke up, and are trying to get him to do it when he doesn't want to. But instead of coming in here saying "my friends want me to smoke pot and I don't want to" he came in here getting in a tisy about how marijuana is horrible and makes people fat and lazy.

 

[AKIRA]

..No.

 

[SYN]

Ill quote and reply to you cuz I like you and SYN sucks. She posted pics of her chubby self in hopes to disagree with my real life experience. Syn Sucks.

In all fairness, I am making judgment on what I see and what I dont really know. On the other forum, I read a post that someone admitted to needing to smoke weed in order to do certain activities that are not vegging out. Its as if they need it to live. No medical reason, just a habitual ritual. Hmm, well I wouldnt put it in the same category as brushing your teeth, but I could put it into a person that has to have a beer everyday. Syn needs it to make breakfast, go watertubing, and sitting on her favorite food that requires her to hit the treadmill, which shes been missing out on it seems.

Basically, if you need it, there is a problem. However, what I dont know and what you dont know are those that do smoke weed may actually do it cuz they need to but will never admit it. If I needed it to play a game to get a high score, study to get an A, have confidence to talk to a girl, with my pride, I would never ever say that I rely on an illegal buzz in order to do any of these things. You can put this up there with steroids, caffeine, alcohol, I am not discriminating. Ill be just as prejudice as with any drug.

To say I need different friends is a little useless cuz those that did smoke weed were discarded after a few instances of them just being zombies. Sure they could build a building while I am not around, but Id be more a fool expecting that than expecting them to do what theyve always done. Nothing.

There you go with the assuming again. Makes you look sooooo intelligent. No really I'm serious.....

I can go on a diet. But there isn't anything you can do for face, or your personality. You're an immature little shit who turns to bullying when someone disagrees with you. In case you haven't noticed, there have been quite a few times here where I've agreed with you on things, taken your side, given you rep, etc etc. I have made an effort to be tolerant of you and ignore all the stupid ignorant shit you post. I'm not the kind of person that holds grudges. It's childish, and not worth it. All I said here was that I'm sorry you feel that way about stoners, because none of the stoners I know that I would consider a friend are like that. I didn't say I don't know any stoners who are a waste of space, and I certainly didn't shit all over you or try to make you feel like you're any less of a person for not smoking pot. You decided to pick a fight over it, like the child you always show yourself to be, instead of maybe having a half intelligent conversation.

Pot is illegal. Big fucking deal. So is hitting a woman. And unlike pot there aren't any places in the US where hitting a woman is ok. Didn't stop you though did it?

Now go duke it out with wolf, and leave me the fuck alone unless you have a valid point. you sorry sack of shit













On another note....a couple weeks ago me and my fiance were driving home down the interstate and boarder patrol had a road block up. We just got our car and it didn't have an inspection sticker yet, and we had roaches and roach clips in the car. While two officers and a dog searched the car we had a nice conversation with one of the officers in which he told us he thought he was the only one of his co-workers that didn't smoke, and that he wishes they'd just legalize it for personal use already so he could stop doing that shit. Long story short we drove off without even a warning, and they let us keep everything that they found in the car. It's pretty obvious to me that pot isn't treated as harshly by law enforcement as it used to be.

 

[Little Wing]

This is a pretty good reason and the best I have read. I guess like steroids, it comes down to abuse. However, abuse is a hard word to define at times. Kind of like diet.

I can see someone getting high every night just for the buzz to be considered abusing it. Though there are a bunch of crybabies crying that it doesnt nothing wrong, that isnt why I call it abuse.

Your mother and the guy above saying he takes it for his back + sleep are taking it to relieve pain and in his case, help sleep. Getting high just to get high, harmful or not, is the culture I dont understand nor care to. In fact, I actually look down on people like that even while holding a beer in my hand.

I expect people that smoke it for medical purposes to lie down, take it easy, something along the path of healing. Not heighten an experience, play a video game, use it to watch a specific movie, or even cope with anxiety. Yeah I said it. I know peeps that say it helps with their anxiety. Yeah sure, put them in a social environment and watch them crumble.

it doesn't effect all people the same and some people are actually a lot more social while smoking it, less inhibited whereas some do get paranoid. not all people react to certain anxiety meds the same either or even blood pressure medications.

you're blaming normal human variants on the effect of an evil weed. an anxious person will be anxious in a social situation with or without weed. a shy person might loosen up some or relax and come out of their shell some. same think with drinking.

you looking down on stoners while having a beer in your hand is kinda obnoxious but your right ans we all have things we don't like about other people's habits. i find it ridiculous to tell a population of adult people they cannot smoke a plant because it's intoxicating while allowing other intoxicants. pretty fookin' simple.


i like stoners better than drinkers. if you spent a weekend trapped in a room with stoners and as much weed as they want or drinkers and as much booze hmmm one elevator will be full of puke and piss. weird choice to me but it should be your right not your government keeping you from doing something relatively harmless. relative to alcohol which is legal.

if a guy is a pretty decent guy and has a job and has a few beers for whatever reason he chooses in the evening i don't see that as abuse. same with pot. but if you do so much of it you don't have a productive life you're a fuck up and you would be without the substance.

 

[Little Wing]

The whole situation with drugs in America aggravates the shit out of me. Both the users and the anti-users piss me off. Most of the users are pathetic failures who ruin it for the rest of us by taking part in this stupid stoner subculture with their faggoty ass hats and their hacky sacks. Then on the other side, most of the anti-users run their cock suckers nonstop when they don't know shit about the subject anyway. There needs to be open dialog. There needs to be scientific research. They need to push cannabis through clinical trials just like they do with glaxosmithkline and pfizer.

You can't talk shit about something without proof. Everything else is just hearsay and anecdotes. " I know people who bla bla bla when they bla bla bla. The last 9 drugs pfizer tried to get approved failed in clinical trails to placebo. That is a lot of money lost. I want to see pot go to clinical trails against placebo. There is no way it will lose.

i can never rep you as much as i want.

california will make it legal and the rest of the states will see the tax money pouring in etc and follow suit.

 

[SYN]

Salvia is legal too, and my fiance knows a kid who almost died because he decided to take a rip of it while driving his mothers car. When it hit him he was coming up on a corner. He didn't make that corner. Instead he drove his mothers suv straight off the road, and thank god into a potato field instead of a patch of trees.
Just because the government tells you it's okay to do something doesn't mean it's any safer than what they tell you you can't do.

I've tried salvia twice. It fucks me up and gets me way higher than pot ever thought of getting me. and I will never ever smoke that shit again.

 

[Little Wing]

Sure you do.

Ill quote and reply to you cuz I like you and SYN sucks. She posted pics of her chubby self in hopes to disagree with my real life experience. Syn Sucks.

doesn't take much for you to act abusively toward a woman does it? you've been a cunt to me and Tess numerous times and we have taken the high road, how ironic, and been nice to you despite it for sometime now. fact is though you are a cunt who hits girls and an insecure little shit who needs to bully women online for some reason. a living abortion some might say. yourself you ugly fucking troll faced shit stain.

 

[Little Wing]

Now go duke it out with wolf

lol

 

[AKIRA]

doesn't take much for you to act abusively toward a woman does it? you've been a cunt to me and Tess numerous times and we have taken the high road, how ironic, and been nice to you despite it for sometime now. fact is though you are a cunt who hits girls and an insecure little shit who needs to bully women online for some reason. a living abortion some might say. yourself you ugly fucking troll faced shit stain.

 

[AKIRA]

"If my answers frighten you, then perhaps you should stop asking scary questions."

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist

I made this thread and you came into it. You 2 have a history of fighting me, so you came looking for trouble. If I am such a plague, ignore me.

 

[Little Wing]

"If my answers frighten you, then perhaps you should stop asking scary questions."

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist

I made this thread and you came into it. You 2 have a history of fighting me, so you came looking for trouble. If I am such a plague, ignore me.

i said if you are looking for support you have it and that i hate people who push you to do shit you don't like and gave the example of my parents saying oh come on have a toke. that's not looking for trouble. you act like a mad little boy just because people have other views. you did it in the wolf thread too but when foreman made the cat thread i went in there and made it a point to not support the lets bash AKIRA spirit it was made in and got bashed myself for it. you sir, are a jackass. good day.

 

[Dark Geared God]

Sorry, its nice that we can laugh. I gotta shit.

But to directly answer you, no. Alcohol is legal and if you wanted to take a bottle of goldschlagger with you on your trip to see Blair Witch, Id be sitting back saying "Why?"

My room mate has zero confidence and always talks about how many girls hes gonna get before we go to a bar. Well, right when we get there, the fucker sits at the bar, puts his elbows on the counter, loses all energy, then freezes while watching tv. I say to him, did we come here to watch tv? As soon as hes absolutely wasted, he starts talking and we dont have to go into the failing results. The point is his problem lies within and relying on alcohol is misleading. He uses it to let loose, but he doesnt need it. Even if it did always get him girls, it is pathetic to rely on something just to experience something else.

Those that smoke weed to do anything, everything, most things, are dead. Theyve got no idea whats going on. Its ok to do it every so often but even then, its a turn off (see the other thread). However, I get drunk every so often, but not every day, not every week, and not before I post up pictures of myself.

Heh, posting those pics mean nothing. Syn coulda been doing nothing for hours before any of those huge activities she displayed were performed. Or. She needed weed just to do those huge activities. Like I said, they mean nothing.

So what your saying is you then go back to your hobble and give each other the dutch rudder..( its not gay)

 

[Dark Geared God]

 

[OTG85]

I remember the days when I would wake up (aka wake and bake) eat go back to sleep wake up do it again eat some more,call my looser friends see if they wanted to meet up and blaze.Talk shit for a few hours how we gonna do this and that and really end up doing nothing.Smoke some more think to myself tomorow gonna find a job tomorow never comes.Man I was a looser at 17-18 years old.Glad I got out that shitty routine the same friends I use to toke with moved on to jail,meth,herrion.Going to the gym and finding my hobby saved my life.....