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Most of the pain has subsided but I just noticed, from the knee down is fairly swollen. Normal for this kind of screw up?
what???????????? you bettter get to the doctor ASAP!!!!!! J/k. your going to live. Just as long as it doesn't get red and hot to the touch, you will be just fine.
 
Had me for a second there Brandon!:nail:
 
its always hard when your starting something new because you don't know what to expect. can't help but to play a little. lol
 
Feel 100 times better today. Other calf at HALF the dose tomorrow, to see if that helps!
 
Good morning Guys !
I hate to have to ask this, but I pinned my right quad on wednesday. I pinned two (2) cc's od QDR 5Hundren. The products contains per one (1) cc of Nandrolone Dec - 200mg / Test E 100mg / Test C 100mg & Trenbolone E 100mg. Its a hybrid blend. Anyways two weeks ago things went fine. I was pretty sore for several days but completely wqent away before my next pin. So last wed, my second pin, same leg, the pain kick my sorry butt to the ground. The pain magically went away by sunday morning. My medic didnt know really what could be causing it. That sunday my leg really appeared to start swelling with water, and now my calf is huge also. The is no fever in the leg, slight warm as supposed to be with swelling, no skin itch, and no cracking of the skin. The only thing that is noticable is slight redness, and water retention. Hell I not even once felt sick, nasea ect ect. My leg feels tight as if I just grew super muscles over night LOl

Please, any advice would be most excellent and appreciated ! :nerd:
 
First of all soldier, who ever made that blend should be drug outside and shot in the dome....lol....everyone knows not to mix 2 19-nors (tren and deca)....I do not know why you are experiencing these symptoms....my best guess would be the BA or your body is not agreeing with one of the various compounds.
 
Good morning Guys !
I hate to have to ask this, but I pinned my right quad on wednesday. I pinned two (2) cc's od QDR 5Hundren. The products contains per one (1) cc of Nandrolone Dec - 200mg / Test E 100mg / Test C 100mg & Trenbolone E 100mg. Its a hybrid blend. Anyways two weeks ago things went fine. I was pretty sore for several days but completely wqent away before my next pin. So last wed, my second pin, same leg, the pain kick my sorry butt to the ground. The pain magically went away by sunday morning. My medic didnt know really what could be causing it. That sunday my leg really appeared to start swelling with water, and now my calf is huge also. The is no fever in the leg, slight warm as supposed to be with swelling, no skin itch, and no cracking of the skin. The only thing that is noticable is slight redness, and water retention. Hell I not even once felt sick, nasea ect ect. My leg feels tight as if I just grew super muscles over night LOl

Please, any advice would be most excellent and appreciated ! :nerd:

too high concentration man.

500mg of hormone per ml.

what are your doses looking like ?

One thing I would consider if I were you is buy some more test to supplement what you have. I think its a better idea to keep you test dose higher than that of the deca/tren.

if you pin 1ml 2x week you are only getting 400mg of test and after you subtract the ester weight it way less test than that. while on the other had you are getting 400mg of deca and 200mg Tren E.

Pyes is correct, this was made by someone that doesn't use gear and just thought it sounded like a good idea and with all these compounds it could trick the person who doesn't know better into thinking this would be the way to go.

never made sense to me to use Test E and Cyp together anyway or for that matter more than one test ester in a cycle. Some people love sust. though.
 
Good Morning Pyes & Roid !! Thank the both of you with much respect for replying to my post !!

PYES - After I had posted this, I came across many complaints from AAS users stating that the Tren was the culprit for the near same effects as I am currently encountering. I can not say this IS the caus, for I have never pinned with these products before. I am just 2 weeks into this new adventure. I layed on the couch last night around 02, propped up my right leg, and by 0830 this morning, my calf was back to normal ! Even my wife could immediately tell !!

ROID - In concerns of my dosing, I take two (2) cc's every week. I take the two (2) cc's for the sake of receiving the 400mg Nandrolone. My joints and bad spine depend on it. A secondary reason for the two (2) cc's was to receive the higher test increase.

I have no shame in admitting my screw-ups, thus saying, I should have been more educated in my decisions. And because it was a BLEND, your right, I felt this was the best was to go. I for sure feel like I should have stuck with purchasing vials seperately, and to keep it just the Nandrolone D and the Test. I will have to determine which test would be best.

And your right, two high of concentration for one (1) single quad, trying to absorb two (2) cc's. This will not happen again. I have three (3) more weeks worth of this product. My next pinning day is tomorrow. In my left quad, I will push (.5) cc / then in each bottox muscle, I will push an equal .75cc.

The reason for this is to experiment as to better locations at smaller cc volume with this product of mine. Heck for any future product as well !! I hate learning curves but its an impairative thing of which we all must endure.

Thanks to you PYES and ROID for your time !! Much respect and thanks sent !!
My kiddo's are pestering me. My daughter is special needs, and has mastered the ART Of PERSISTANCE to get my attention !!

Good Day Guys, and Stay Well !!
Thanks !!!:clapping:
 
Oh ps. A clue to a possible to much solution in one area. As I removed the needle, small amounts of oil flowed out of the pinning site upon removal. I use a 22g 1in.
 
Oh ps. A clue to a possible to much solution in one area. As I removed the needle, small amounts of oil flowed out of the pinning site upon removal. I use a 22g 1in.

fuck, you used a 22g on your calve ? ouch. lol i bet you are sore.

I use 25g for everything.

Are you only running this for 5 weeks ? Bro, this would be a hugh waste. You will just have started to reap the benefits by week 5.

maybe you mentioned 10 weeks and i overlooked it. If not, you really jumped too far ahead on this one and if this was a first cycle you are going to be disappointed. Good news is you aren't gonna die.

as far as which test.....test is test is test is test. It really comes down to how often you feel like pinning.
 
QDR is a GenXXL blend, isn't it?
 
Just put 1 cc in the left calf and did a decent amount of bleeding. Ooops.:loser: We'll see how the soreness goes with this one. I think I was too far on the side of the calf, this time, as my right side didn't even weep a drop. Question guys. Is 3 cc the max for injecting into quads or anywhere else for that matter?
 
You should always be pinning in the thickest part of the muscle with the exception to the glutes....
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Good Evening Roid !

I hope I dint misinform with my pinning. I pinned my right quad. I in a sick way like the 22g 1in lol

But check this out. I had no choice to go the the medic this afternoon. The results are. I have several mini oil pockets in my right quad. This is the sole root for my swelling and they said I had inflamation. No abcessed leg, no draining required :) :) :)

I was giving an anti inflame shot, with antibiotics, and a script for the antibiotics. The doc said that I should not have pushed that darn many cc's into my leg, and to stop pinning anywhere except for the buttox for now on. The reason for the inflamation leans suspect to possible not so steril product, yet hard to tell. He however said often two 19-Nor steroids in one dont tend to mix well. My inflamation and swelling could be due to the product blend, or unsteril product. He said if this happen in my buttox, to immediately throw away my product(s).

After all the fun poke-&-playing, I got the "BIG" lecture on the use of steroids. (as to be expected)

Ps. The ultrasound girl was pretty cute, and It was kinda hot. I think she enjoyed running the scanner thing in my crotch to much, but thats was cool cause I probably enjoyed it to much also LOL

Oh and I was going to get another vial, with double dosing to last the full 10 weeks !! My sex drive with this stuff, in a little over 2 weeks has become amazing ! The wife and I have to take a break !!

fuck, you used a 22g on your calve ? ouch. lol i bet you are sore.

I use 25g for everything.

Are you only running this for 5 weeks ? Bro, this would be a hugh waste. You will just have started to reap the benefits by week 5.

maybe you mentioned 10 weeks and i overlooked it. If not, you really jumped too far ahead on this one and if this was a first cycle you are going to be disappointed. Good news is you aren't gonna die.

as far as which test.....test is test is test is test. It really comes down to how often you feel like pinning.
 
Just put 1 cc in the left calf and did a decent amount of bleeding. Ooops.:loser: We'll see how the soreness goes with this one. I think I was too far on the side of the calf, this time, as my right side didn't even weep a drop. Question guys. Is 3 cc the max for injecting into quads or anywhere else for that matter?


Well to my understanding everyone is different. The size of the quad makes a difference. I am a medium built guy, and I was strictly informed to stop injecting 2cc's into either of my quads. But sometimes medic advice can clash with personal experienced users.
 
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Question guys. Is 3 cc the max for injecting into quads or anywhere else for that matter?
the highest i go is 2cc. Thats alot of oil to stick in one spot. If you want to do 3cc. why not just divide it into two shots. that way you can hit two different areas of the quad
 
the highest i go is 2cc. Thats alot of oil to stick in one spot. If you want to do 3cc. why not just divide it into two shots. that way you can hit two different areas of the quad


Good point but Jesus, I hate pinning more than necessary!
 
Do you guys stick to the rule of not pinning the same place more than every other week? If I only have to pin 2xweek and have no problem with quads, could I pin 5 inches away from the last site to make more use of the larger muscle?
 
Do you guys stick to the rule of not pinning the same place more than every other week? If I only have to pin 2xweek and have no problem with quads, could I pin 5 inches away from the last site to make more use of the larger muscle?


You dont want to divert to far away from the proper quadrant of the quads. When I was injecting daily, of a product called synthaselene, a water based product, I would pin within 1 inch from each site. With oil based, my once a week QDR 5Hundred, is suspected of causing mini oil abcesses to have developed in my right quad. (Just from pinning 2 times. Left one is fine. But now I have a kankle on my right foot.

Just be careful if your dealing with an oil base pinning that many times per week. My s**t is THICK THICK. Only a 22g will allow it to flow.

Im not an expert by any means, just 2 cent input from what I had to rapidly learn over the last few days. Hope this helped a bit.
 
To give you guys the latest. My right calf is finally almost back to normal (2 weeks after pin) with very little swelling and it hasn't hurt for a week. My left calf only really had one bad day 2 days after shot and it was mild by comparison. The left feels good enough to pin again (not yet though) even though it was only last Tuesday. But the left calf was only 1cc. I am still grateful to Pyes as I am still going to pin calves but only 1cc or so until I toughen up and quit being a bitch.
 
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