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Redness and swelling 3 days after injection
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Dude I hate to tell ya but u may have thrown out some good test. Monday I injected 2cc into my upper outside part of my ass and today its swollen twice as big as your pic and hurts like u wouldnt believe. I have been only doing 1cc but monday was my 8 week mark and I want to bump to 750. Im running naps test e so I know its good heck I have been running it for 8 weeks with no issue till I did 2cc witch was to much at one time. Im going to inject 1cc mon, wends, and friday. Just thought id share with ya.
This is the reason I don't hit the glute... you cant sit, get in or out of bed, bend over, tie your shoe, get in your car.....
Look like a fool walking around....
malfeasance
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I know guys that hit the glutes and have no problems at all - no pain, no swelling, no redness . . . this is just not what one would expect.
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Glad to hear you are doing better! I've been reading the posts and agree it's not an infection. I'm in healthcare and I've seen infections and that definitely isn't one. Especially since you haven't had a fever. What I want to say is that many UGLs use a high concentration of BA and BB, all of which are good to use for safety reasons BUT can cause massive pain with injections. This is because it irritates the hell out of muscles when injected, pretty much just burns the muscle. Most HG use around 0.9% BA, most UGLs use 1-5%, a little too much. Best thing to do is inject after a workout, or much earlier than your workout i.e don't inject the thigh and go workout your legs right away, wait at least a couple of hours. Also, use a warm compress ALWAYS! do it after the injection for 15-20min and throughout the day, trust me it helps a lot! Your reaction IMO was from a combo of high concentration of gear, BA and/or BB. I use HG sust from Organon and it hurts like a bitch, I use my shoulder and it feels like I got punched multiple times, although there is no redness, just minor swelling, usually goes away in 3 days. Thanks for your post. Be safe bro!
Exact thing happens to me too. Never on the delt, but on my glute, and on my left quad. Makes me almost useless....swelled up bad, and hurt like a bitch. I still get everything done but its hurts like hell every movement, limping and lookin' like a wounded soldier....
I read on another thraed that its the sharp testosterone powder under a microscope is super jagged and sharp, and once the ester buffer is gone, the T slices and dices the muscle??
yeah i just have a weird protruding deltoid from a shot i did earlier. It's weird. When my delt is stable it looks normal, flat, no sign of swelling, etc. but when I raise my arm the inner head feels hard like a giant piece of muscle and is really elevated, I can't even explain it in words. Funny thing though its painless, no redness and definitely no sign of infection. Hopefully it goes away otherwise I'm going to the doc and having an xray or mri.
Originally Posted by coolcatxr7
Glad to hear you are doing better! I've been reading the posts and agree it's not an infection. I'm in healthcare and I've seen infections and that definitely isn't one. Especially since you haven't had a fever. What I want to say is that many UGLs use a high concentration of BA and BB, all of which are good to use for safety reasons BUT can cause massive pain with injections. This is because it irritates the hell out of muscles when injected, pretty much just burns the muscle. Most HG use around 0.9% BA, most UGLs use 1-5%, a little too much. Best thing to do is inject after a workout, or much earlier than your workout i.e don't inject the thigh and go workout your legs right away, wait at least a couple of hours. Also, use a warm compress ALWAYS! do it after the injection for 15-20min and throughout the day, trust me it helps a lot! Your reaction IMO was from a combo of high concentration of gear, BA and/or BB. I use HG sust from Organon and it hurts like a bitch, I use my shoulder and it feels like I got punched multiple times, although there is no redness, just minor swelling, usually goes away in 3 days. Thanks for your post. Be safe bro!
Exact thing happens to me too. Never on the delt, but on my glute, and on my left quad. Makes me almost useless....swelled up bad, and hurt like a bitch. I still get everything done but its hurts like hell every movement, limping and lookin' like a wounded soldier....
I read on another thraed that its the sharp testosterone powder under a microscope is super jagged and sharp, and once the ester buffer is gone, the T slices and dices the muscle??
yeah i just have a weird protruding deltoid from a shot i did earlier. It's weird. When my delt is stable it looks normal, flat, no sign of swelling, etc. but when I raise my arm the inner head feels hard like a giant piece of muscle and is really elevated, I can't even explain it in words. Funny thing though its painless, no redness and definitely no sign of infection. Hopefully it goes away otherwise I'm going to the doc and having an xray or mri.
Give it a week before worrying is what I learned. If after a week its getting worse instead of better go seek help 
I have the same thing on my left Delt right now actually... haha except mine is warm swollen and red. Feels like I got punched a bunch of times. I think its my gear. That was the end of my sust so I'll see what happens with the next bottle.
I have the same thing on my left Delt right now actually... haha except mine is warm swollen and red. Feels like I got punched a bunch of times. I think its my gear. That was the end of my sust so I'll see what happens with the next bottle.
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Well, today is the start of week 4, and no meds, so I have to modify the cycle log yet again. If I had a cycle log, it would look all screwed up like this.
Week 1 sust 600 mg (2 injections of 300 each), 30 mg d-bol ed
Week 2 sust 300 mg (one injection), then go cold turkey and stop everything for two days, then resume d-bol at 30 mg ed
Week 3 d-bol 30 mg daily
Week 4 d-bol 30 mg every day and maybe (hopefully, potentially) test cyp at 500 mg (250 twice a week) if it arrives.
Weeks 4-11 - 8 weeks of test cyp at 500 a week with d-bol continuing at 30 mg daily for the first two weeks
Week 1 sust 600 mg (2 injections of 300 each), 30 mg d-bol ed
Week 2 sust 300 mg (one injection), then go cold turkey and stop everything for two days, then resume d-bol at 30 mg ed
Week 3 d-bol 30 mg daily
Week 4 d-bol 30 mg every day and maybe (hopefully, potentially) test cyp at 500 mg (250 twice a week) if it arrives.
Weeks 4-11 - 8 weeks of test cyp at 500 a week with d-bol continuing at 30 mg daily for the first two weeks
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As of today, it has been 15 days since the last pin (see schedule in post above), and I am still getting stronger, have increased libido (which kind of sucks with no wife or girlfriend), shrunken testes, and some acne.
I guess the long acting esters in sust really do hang around a long time.
I guess the long acting esters in sust really do hang around a long time.
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If I had a cycle log, it would look all screwed up like this.
Week 1 sust 600 mg (2 injections of 300 each), 30 mg d-bol ed
Week 2 sust 300 mg (one injection), then go cold turkey and stop everything for two days, then resume d-bol at 30 mg ed
Week 3 d-bol 30 mg daily
Week 4 1000 mg test cyp, d-bol 30 mg every day
Weeks 4-5 500 mg of test cyp, d-bol 30 mg daily
Weeks 5-? 500 mg test cyp
QUESTIONS:
This is my first cycle, but, given how the weeks 2 and 3 were so messed up, I am frontloading week 4.
(1) Should I increase the test to 600 weekly - what I want to do, unless you all talk me out of it.
(2) How long? I originally planned for 10 weeks total. Again, due to the adverse reaction, weeks 2 and three were messed up. What are your thoughts on the length of my cycle?
Oh, and the new stuff injected easily, 2.6 ml, and no soreness at all, none, nada, zilch, the next day, so I am considering this issue about the reaction to the gear closed. It was the gear!
Week 1 sust 600 mg (2 injections of 300 each), 30 mg d-bol ed
Week 2 sust 300 mg (one injection), then go cold turkey and stop everything for two days, then resume d-bol at 30 mg ed
Week 3 d-bol 30 mg daily
Week 4 1000 mg test cyp, d-bol 30 mg every day
Weeks 4-5 500 mg of test cyp, d-bol 30 mg daily
Weeks 5-? 500 mg test cyp
QUESTIONS:
This is my first cycle, but, given how the weeks 2 and 3 were so messed up, I am frontloading week 4.
(1) Should I increase the test to 600 weekly - what I want to do, unless you all talk me out of it.
(2) How long? I originally planned for 10 weeks total. Again, due to the adverse reaction, weeks 2 and three were messed up. What are your thoughts on the length of my cycle?
Oh, and the new stuff injected easily, 2.6 ml, and no soreness at all, none, nada, zilch, the next day, so I am considering this issue about the reaction to the gear closed. It was the gear!
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Have both Clomid and Nolva on hand and will simply be following the basic PCT outlined in the beginner's stickied threads here.
Any thoughts on 500 or 600 and the overall length of the cycle, given the week two and three screwup? Should I stick with 10 weeks overall (the original plan)?
If it was me I'd go to 12-14 weeks with the Test cyp, stay around 500mg till after week 8 and then bump it to 750mg only if you think you need it, if not stay where you are!
Wow I'm having the same exact problem with the same UGL 300mg/ml Sustanon. I'm hating having to toss 8ml! Going back to HG 250 and under. I didnt have swelling on my hip like Mal, just the side of the glute like gear leaked under the skin and hurts to sit or bend 2 days after injection. The other glute still hurts a little from the first injection 5 days ago. Started to get concerned when I got feverish and waking up with night sweats.
Any home remedies to help? Can't go to Doctor. Should I ice or sit in a sauna or hot tub?
Any home remedies to help? Can't go to Doctor. Should I ice or sit in a sauna or hot tub?
Yeah I'm going to bake it and then cut it with 1/2ml of 200mg cyp I have in the delt. No more 1" in the glute.
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same shit happend to me on my side delt. so the next time i did it n tricep but slower n had no problems. too fast may have been the problem
Yeah i think I squeezed too fast because my girl was home and didnt wait 15 seconds before pulling it out. Going to be completely thorough next time.
sonofsam1975
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hey/// bro what are you running ? sustanon250 or cyp.....or enathante i had a really bad time with sustanon 250 in my shoulder ....try warming the stuff up a bit in warm water and shoot slower ....or maybe you have bad stuff
Yeah its ugl sustanon 300 and its overdosed around 330 so the hormone crystalizes to add to the worries. The lab told me to bake it at 230 for 30 minutes with a needle in the top but forgot to tell to make sure the needle isnt in the oil so it isnt pushed out by the hot air. I found my vial in a small puddle of oil, about 1ml no biggy. Also ordered up some filter needles which I'm going to start using to draw ugl and apply neosporin after the injection as a precaution. I'm also going to do .1ml per 3 seconds and wait 15 seconds before pulling the needle out along with the usual shower and 70% alcohol swabs and 2 22g 1.5" pins. Wish me luck.
sonofsam1975
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hey...ugl stuff really bad stuff my brother ! always had problem with it you may want to try (GENESIS) they made a compound thats the same as sustanon 250 but so much better no pain ive been using it for months , remember ugl they all use a heavier base oil in the stuff and its a mother on the body. GENESIS) USE'S A MUCH CLEANER AND THINNNER OIL BASE so there's not pain at all , propiante always gives a little pain for about a day ....the compound run's for about 65 ......good luck feel free to hit me up .....always glad to help ..been doing this for 30 years so i do have tons of know how .
OK just have to say my new way of doing UGL has totally no soreness! Major changes is I diluted the 300mg/ml sust with 200mg/ml cyp drawn with a filter needle. .5ml each. After the injection I rubbed in Neosporin. I also did bake both at 230 for 30 minutes and hope I didnt degrade the product and is why theres no soreness.
sonofsam1975
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hi.......what brand of sustanon are you using .....i had a hell of a time with the ones i got last year same crap your going throu.....i did reseach them and they were so fake . the only ones that are good to go are (pharmatec obs ) still made by organon anything anfter is fake . need serial number on amp.
Darkcity
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Man thats crazy there is noway in hell i would have continued the same gear after even one pin and that is what happened. You got some balls brother glad to see you still have your quad intact.
sonofsam1975
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wow......thats got to hurt , ugl stuff is not not good
malfeasance
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That swelling was from a glute pin! The swelling extended down the leg.
AP or similar from now on.
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After hearing all ur post, i was just wondering how you are doing now..i saw the pix of your thigh and was like wow!!
all that is, is a bunch of oil under the skin. thats what happens when it leaks out or you dont get it in IM.
TGB1987
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No I have to disagree here ^.. Yes if you don't get all the oil under the skin you will have some redness and swelling but not that bad. That is a pic of his quad but he did the shot in the Glute. That was some bad, very bad swelling to come all the way down the quad and make it look like that. This is not normal from just oil under the skin. That was some bad gear without a doubt in my mind. Maybe he can elaborate more here.
