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[Aaron S.]

A.

Nylon is not compatible with Benzyl alcohol - even at 1% BA. Do not use it.

And I agree with Brundel, PVDF is superior choice for filtering, its chemical compatibility is excellent.

PTFE (teflon) filters are the absolute best, but they run a premium. PVDF is a fine choice.

Just some other FYI info for the board:
PES is not compatible with BB
Nylon is not compatible with BA
PES and Nylon are not compatible with Guaiacol, (and most likely not EO).

Wow i'm surprised this is even a question. When we are talking about the type of filtration PVDF is the only way to go. No question. Especially for the temperature i filter at. Sometimes i'm filtering at just under 200 F. You can't use nylon for hot filtering.

 

[Aaron S.]

It took all this time but i have got the TNE issue under control. I melt it down with guiaicol, and blend it with oil. It takes 2 days for it to precipitate back into crystal form and then i heat it again in the oven at 225 or so.

 

[Aaron S.]

O.K. fellas. question for all you gurus.. besides the pain issue does any one have any legit reasons why propylene glycol shouldn't be used instead of oil for short ester hormones??

 

[booze]

OK, got a slight problem. Can anyone tell me if PTFE membrane filters are good to go for filtering? my supplier failed to tell me he was out of PFVD filters and just sent me some PTFE filters. Want to filter this weekend. any advice would be great Thanks.

 

[booze]

http://www.membrane-solutions.com/download/PTFE_Membrane_Filter.pdf

This link says suitable for strong acids and aggressive solutions so Im guessing that they will be fine to use with BB? Thanks.

 

[bulldogz]

Sorry...was thinking around 250-300...would like to try the 300mg/ml to tell you the truth...

Same ratio would be fine 2% ba 20% bb brother

I was wondering if using only GSO (grapeseed oil) would hold well for a 300ml/mg brew or would I have to go with EO (ethyl oleate) along with GSO for that high of a ml/mg concentration?

 

[brundel]

I was wondering if using only GSO (grapeseed oil) would hold well for a 300ml/mg brew or would I have to go with EO (ethyl oleate) along with GSO for that high of a ml/mg concentration?

I know everyone seems excited about high MG/ML gear but trust me its more trouble than its worth.
Over 250mg test starts to really hurt. Over 100mg if its prop.
Also remember that the solvents we use are not without health hazards.
BB is used as a pesticide and kills the organism by destroying its nervous system.
Ethyl oleate can also be very irritating and I have heard of it eating through butyl stoppers....if it eats through rubber imagine with it does to your body.

You can get Enanth to hold at 2%BA with no co solvents.....at 200mg --probably 250.
You can get cyp to hold with a little BB and 1-2% BA at 250mg...no injection pain.

I shoot a TON of test and 250mg works best because once the shit starts causing injection site swelling and pain you start having to be more creative with your site options.

 

[keith1569]

I'm thinking of trying cyp next time for test. How much BA you add to have it hold at 200mg/ml and 250mg/ml.
I have no problems with enth but just like different things ha

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[03SVS]

What's going on guys. I've just joined up today. Some of you guys are really knowledgeable on this stuff, and I would definitely like to learn more about all of this.

I've just finished a test E only cycle of 8 weeks. Went from 135lbs up to 164, and put on alot of mass compared to my old self. Anyways I did pay quite a bit for my stuff, and since it was my first cycle I did test only. I've got 20ml of Deca for my next cycle which I'm about ready to do. I've got tamoxifen on hand already from my 1st one.

I would like to learn more about the homebrew side though, as I feel I may have been over-charged for what I got. Oh well, it worked great and wasn't to painful.

Also glad to be here and hope to learn alot from the pros.

 

[yerg]

I know everyone seems excited about high MG/ML gear but trust me its more trouble than its worth.
Over 250mg test starts to really hurt. Over 100mg if its prop.
Also remember that the solvents we use are not without health hazards.
BB is used as a pesticide and kills the organism by destroying its nervous system.
Ethyl oleate can also be very irritating and I have heard of it eating through butyl stoppers....if it eats through rubber imagine with it does to your body.

You can get Enanth to hold at 2%BA with no co solvents.....at 200mg --probably 250.
You can get cyp to hold with a little BB and 1-2% BA at 250mg...no injection pain.

I shoot a TON of test and 250mg works best because once the shit starts causing injection site swelling and pain you start having to be more creative with your site options.

yeah i made test 400 but diluted it to 250 cause it was just too painfull... kinda defeats the purpose. I feel 250mg/ml or even 300mg/ml is plenty!!!

 

[bwrag]

I have a question. WHy even use gso or cso and just use the whole carrier as EO?

 

[yerg]

to much chems... i know some are alergic to eo

 

[UA_Iron]

I have a question. WHy even use gso or cso and just use the whole carrier as EO?

Thats the way to do it for high mg gear.

Test E should hold at nearly 400mg/ml with just 2% BA if your powder is good. But is it wise to do it? You run the risk of crystallization in the muscle which makes it painful - ie not worth the high concentration.

EO and BB prevent that crystallization. EO is an ideal carrier because it acts a solvent as well - it will actually slow the release of esters release into the body to some degree. Not much is known on the long term use of EO and its affects on human bodies - but it is used in some HG gear, there might be literature out there regarding its safety.

 

[UA_Iron]

O.K. fellas. question for all you gurus.. besides the pain issue does any one have any legit reasons why propylene glycol shouldn't be used instead of oil for short ester hormones??

Each mL of ATIVAN®INJECTION contains 4 mg lorazepam, compounded with 80% propylene glycol, 18% polyethylene glycol and 2% benzyl alcohol. Lorazepam is a benzodiazepine derivative developed through original WYETH research.

ATIVAN® INJECTION


Interesting idea.

First pharmaceutical preparation I've seen with 2% BA. First preparation I've seen with propylene glycol as a carrier.

 

[UA_Iron]

Wow i'm surprised this is even a question. When we are talking about the type of filtration PVDF is the only way to go. No question. Especially for the temperature i filter at. Sometimes i'm filtering at just under 200 F. You can't use nylon for hot filtering.

Because a lot of the common places that supply these solvents also sell the spectrum of different types of filter types.

PTFE has better material compatibility than PVDF.

 

[booze]

Because a lot of the common places that supply these solvents also sell the spectrum of different types of filter types.

PTFE has better material compatibility than PVDF.

So my ptfe filters are good to go! Thanks.

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[probuilder]

Hello, I am new here, my first post..

I am looki looking for a Stanazolol receipe. I have at least five receipes, water and oil based as well. I read Stanazolol basically can dissolve only in water and oily gears from this are not good.

Does anybody has experience with any of the receipes with this ?

Thanks in advance for your help !

 

[brundel]

With win you need to filter the water and BA without the win.
Filter distilled water and BA into a sterile vial
Heat Peg 300 Ps80 win untill dissolved. Win has a super high MP.
Peg will likely smoke.
Once dissolved and cooled and using a new filter filter the win into the water.

 

[yerg]

With win you need to filter the water and BA without the win.
Filter distilled water and BA into a sterile vial
Heat Peg 300 Ps80 win untill dissolved. Win has a super high MP.
Peg will likely smoke.
Once dissolved and cooled and using a new filter filter the win into the water.

lol.... this is not fun...

 

[brundel]

No....not really.
But it works

 

[Aaron S.]

that's the only way i have had any success with stan. For me Every attempt with oil has ended in a crash. Even with Guiaicol.

 

[Aaron S.]

O.K. I see why no body talks much about propylene glycol. I put 2mls@100mg/ml with 15%BB and 2%BA(thats what it took to suspend it) in my thigh and i feel like i got shot with a bean bag. REALY painful ! And remember i have a long yardstick to measure pain since i was shooting straight crystals in myself before.

 

[booze]

What does boldenone undec smell like in its raw form as a liquid? And is it a thick liquid like honey or more like water?? Thanks

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[UA_Iron]

oil based winny
1g winny
.5ml ba
2ml bb
5.5ml guaiacol(super solvent)
11.25ml ethyl oleate

That will hold.

I hate the way guaiacol smells, its awful and it lingers forever.

 

[bccs]

The EQ "powder" I got smells slightly sweet and is just a little thinner than honey

 

[booze]

Thanks for the info mate.

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[bwrag]

What is powder weight of tren E?

 

[keith1569]

If u put the weight at .9 u will be good to go.

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[bwrag]

If u put the weight at .9 u will be good to go.

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Thanks

 

[bwrag]

same weights for all ethantes?