t3 or clen?

[Pony]

ive just started a cycle of HGH, and I was thinking of adding clenbuterol or t3 into the mix but i dont know which is better for me. I wanna cut up like christ (sorry if that offends), without losing a lot of muscle. Whats more popular for women? (if thats a factor) And if you dont mind posting, which do you find has been most effective in a situation like mine?

 

[jbzjacked]

I'm actually going to try Z's clen, heard great things, t3 uhh.. I don't want to mess with my thyroid just yet lol...

 

[robbiek426]

BOTH! Clen T3 stack is a fatloss machine!

 

[bigdtrain]

if you have never used either, start with a basic clen cycle, 2 weeks on. you will def see the results if diet and training is on point for sure

 

[SwoleZilla]

if you have never used either, start with a basic clen cycle, 2 weeks on. you will def see the results if diet and training is on point for sure

x2 clen is magical if you put in the work

 

[Repo]

ive just started a cycle of HGH, and I was thinking of adding clenbuterol or t3 into the mix but i dont know which is better for me. I wanna cut up like christ (sorry if that offends), without losing a lot of muscle. Whats more popular for women? (if thats a factor) And if you dont mind posting, which do you find has been most effective in a situation like mine?

I'm running them both right now and they both work very well.

T3 is common with HGH - and might be the right choice for you - however it is a thyroid drug and should be ran in a strict manner.

Usually, most people will start with 25 mcg and work their way up to 75-100 mcg.

I would not go any higher than 100 as this seems to be where studies show a catabolic state - and you should not run any longer the 6 weeks with a couple months off.

Clenbuterol is also great - I run this for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off - except you might might not see a significant decline in effectiveness until week 5-6 being new to you.

I start this at a low dose of 40 mcg and work up to 180 mcg - but 180 will be too high for most people.

 

[Pony]

I'm running them both right now and they both work very well.

T3 is common with HGH - and might be the right choice for you - however it is a thyroid drug and should be ran in a strict manner.

Usually, most people will start with 25 mcg and work their way up to 75-100 mcg.

I would not go any higher than 100 as this seems to be where studies show a catabolic state - and you should not run any longer the 6 weeks with a couple months off.

Clenbuterol is also great - I run this for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off - except you might might not see a significant decline in effectiveness until week 5-6 being new to you.

I start this at a low dose of 40 mcg and work up to 180 mcg - but 180 will be too high for most people.

Thanks Repo, you've been a major help. I have another question, do either of these react badly with thermogenics?

 

[Repo]

Thanks Repo, you've been a major help. I have another question, do either of these react badly with thermogenics?

That's a very good question ... "what type of thermogenic do you have in mind?"

Clenbuterol will usually raise the temperature .5 to 1 degrees and "sometimes more" - I fall into the "sometimes more" - because I usually run more than you should.

I would really recommend not adding any thermogenic to a Clenbuterol stack.

The active life is 68 hours with a half life of 34 hours - so this will stay in the system for some time - this is something I didn't realize when i first took it and all I can say is ... "WOW!"

So just keep in mind Clenbuterol will stay with you for a while.

T3 - thyroid hormones stimulate the basal metabolic rate - which effect many cellular functions such as protein, fat and carbohydrate metabolism.

T3 is commonly used with "other" fat loss agents like HGH or beta agonists.

So in layman terms - I think you should be ok using a thermogenic with T3 - but I would not advise it with Clenbuterol - or at least use great caution with Clenbuterol - simply because "I believe" some thermogenic's work on the same beta-receptors and nervous system.

T3 and Clenbuterol together ok - but I wouldn't run a thermogenic on top of these.

 

[djash]

That's a very good question ... "what type of thermogenic do you have in mind?"

Clenbuterol will usually raise the temperature .5 to 1 degrees and "sometimes more" - I fall into the "sometimes more" - because I usually run more than you should.

I would really recommend not adding any thermogenic to a Clenbuterol stack.

The active life is 68 hours with a half life of 34 hours - so this will stay in the system for some time - this is something I didn't realize when i first took it and all I can say is ... "WOW!"

So just keep in mind Clenbuterol will stay with you for a while.

T3 - thyroid hormones stimulate the basal metabolic rate - which effect many cellular functions such as protein, fat and carbohydrate metabolism.

T3 is commonly used with "other" fat loss agents like HGH or beta agonists.

So in layman terms - I think you should be ok using a thermogenic with T3 - but I would not advise it with Clenbuterol - or at least use great caution with Clenbuterol - simply because "I believe" some thermogenic's work on the same beta-receptors and nervous system.

T3 and Clenbuterol together ok - but I wouldn't run a thermogenic on top of these.

Im a guy - would someone be able to help with these questions:

would you ever run t3 and clen by itself? I know they say that the t3 will rip through everything including muscle, and best to run with an anabolic\test, but what if you dont like needles? run with dianabol, that brings horrible water retention?? Could you run clen & t3 but minimize the dose on t3 to not lose too much muscle mass? how much muscle would it go through compared to fat? if you keep your protein high would this minimize the amount of muscle t3 will rip in to? if yes, how much protein intake?

I would really like to see peoples opinions and advice on this.

Thanks

 

[Repo]

Im a guy - would someone be able to help with these questions:

would you ever run t3 and clen by itself? I know they say that the t3 will rip through everything including muscle, and best to run with an anabolic\test, but what if you dont like needles? run with dianabol, that brings horrible water retention?? Could you run clen & t3 but minimize the dose on t3 to not lose too much muscle mass? how much muscle would it go through compared to fat? if you keep your protein high would this minimize the amount of muscle t3 will rip in to? if yes, how much protein intake?

I would really like to see peoples opinions and advice on this.

Thanks

I would never run T3 without running any AAS - Clenbuterol is ok, but I wouldn't do it with T3.

An extremely low does - like 25 mcg might not be so bad - but I would not recommend it if you aren't going to run a proper cycle.

It's best to really overcome the needle concern...

This is very common, but also easy to overcome - when I first had to inject - I got everything ready and almost talked myself into waiting until latter - then thought, no - if I'm going to do this - I really need to do this - and then just went through the motions - it ended up being very simple.

There really is no right answer - because you should always run testosterone as your base to every cycle.

Injecting is no harder than driving a car for the first time - you can do it.

Once you do it - you will feel like King Kong!

 

[Pony]

Thanks again Repo, you've provided me with invaluable info and Im excited about taking this to the next level.

Yeah man get over the needle, if Repo's words of kindness dont get you motivated, then maybe this will: You're a pussy, little girls with diabetes inject themselves full of insulin every day, and you cant even think about it. If you want this bad enough you'll stop talking shit and start acting like grown up.

Im not tryin to be a dick though, i said that shit to myself my first time. i was standing in front the the mirrorr just staring at the needles. Good luck man

 

[djash]

I would never run T3 without running any AAS - Clenbuterol is ok, but I wouldn't do it with T3.

An extremely low does - like 25 mcg might not be so bad - but I would not recommend it if you aren't going to run a proper cycle.

It's best to really overcome the needle concern...

This is very common, but also easy to overcome - when I first had to inject - I got everything ready and almost talked myself into waiting until latter - then thought, no - if I'm going to do this - I really need to do this - and then just went through the motions - it ended up being very simple.

There really is no right answer - because you should always run testosterone as your base to every cycle.

Injecting is no harder than driving a car for the first time - you can do it.

Once you do it - you will feel like King Kong!

Hey, thanks for the advice. will take on board, its true what you are saying about the needle thing, im not scared of needles at all, its more worried about injecting it wrong and doing damage to myself that way. i dont really have anyone close to me that could inject for me. I guess ive got some thinking to do on that one then.

Once again, thanks for the advice.

 

[djash]

Thanks again Repo, you've provided me with invaluable info and Im excited about taking this to the next level.

Yeah man get over the needle, if Repo's words of kindness dont get you motivated, then maybe this will: You're a pussy, little girls with diabetes inject themselves full of insulin every day, and you cant even think about it. If you want this bad enough you'll stop talking shit and start acting like grown up.

Im not tryin to be a dick though, i said that shit to myself my first time. i was standing in front the the mirrorr just staring at the needles. Good luck man

Hey, thanks for the pep talk im not scared of needles, im more worried about injecting wrong and messing myself up like that. otherwise i dont mind needles at all. But if i do decide to go down the needle route, i will for sure have your words ringing in my head

Thanks for your response

 

[Repo]

Thanks again Repo, you've provided me with invaluable info and Im excited about taking this to the next level.

Yeah man get over the needle, if Repo's words of kindness dont get you motivated, then maybe this will: You're a pussy, little girls with diabetes inject themselves full of insulin every day, and you cant even think about it. If you want this bad enough you'll stop talking shit and start acting like grown up.

Im not tryin to be a dick though, i said that shit to myself my first time. i was standing in front the the mirrorr just staring at the needles. Good luck man

LOL - well said PonyPackage

See djash - this coming from PonyPackage is awesome ... "now you have to do it my friend!"

I would hurry and order some test - jab that sucker in - and I guarantee you will feel like a new man...

... "plus this is what is needed if you REALLY want to grow."

 

[Pony]

Hey, thanks for the pep talk im not scared of needles, im more worried about injecting wrong and messing myself up like that. otherwise i dont mind needles at all. But if i do decide to go down the needle route, i will for sure have your words ringing in my head

Thanks for your response

theres a million injection how-to's on youtube. just type in "how to inject ______" and youll get your fill of instructionals. This was a major help for me, and hopefully for you too! enjoy bud

 

[djash]

Knowing me ill do 100000000 bits of research first too
Thanks guys, im looking in to it.