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bigbenj said:
I'm going to find out for myself through real life experience. This is just going to turn into an online study posting session. One person will post a study pro-dnp, then someone will post a study that is anti.
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I'm not posting pro or anti DNP studies. I'm just posting toxicity data. This is non biased scientific observation. Now, others have interpreted this data pro or anti but I have not. My goal is to provide factual information not biased info that is driven by ulterior motives.
 
by the way these are probably the same people who will tell you how bad test is for you......i can see them sitting at the bar......."man that shit fucks up your liver" *GULP GULP GULP* "and gives you cancer" *PUFF PUFF PUFF* "not to mention make you violent from roid rage" *WHAT YOU LOOKIN AT ASSHOLE? FLEX FLEX FLEX*
 
bigbenj said:
Nice! I appreciate the advice.
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Anytime.

In regards to the studies. You're going to find conflicting information anywhere you go not just with DNP but most meds in general. The best advice I can give you is to do enough research, listen to guys whos opinions are held in high regard to you personally and take all of that information and make a decision one way or the other.

Anytime one study is posted you can probably find one that contradicts the first. You're smart enough to read between the two and figure it out.

In my opinion, I think a reasonable dose for a reasonable length of time is fine. Tren is toxic as are a lot of aas, big deal.....people aren't as scared of them as they are of DNP. A lot of people just hear DNP and they know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy who may have died. :geewhiz:

It is what it is.
 
So to the people who have took DNP, would you say it was worth the risk and would you do it all over again if you had the chance?
 
and heavyiron.............my motives are NOT what you think...........i only been sourcing since december and i do it because people been getting ripped off....find me on ghostgym, professionalmuscle, AM, meso,anabolic-source, cutting-edge, outlaw and mostly my home CHEMICAL ANARCHY i been pro-dnp for yrs even while payin through the ass for it..............there are just as many studies sayin its safe........maybe i can lure conciliator here he been collecting shitloads of data and is writing a book on its safety......i doubt i can get animal here but he is the real guru of dnp and just about everything else................i also would pump up lipostabil, injectable curcumin and injectable resveratrol, injectable germanium and injectable glutathione as well as injectable SOD......but is this board ready for that yet? they still talking about bulking/cutting cycles here like its the 90s.........dnp and peptides are about as cutting edge as it seems to get around here and if you look at my other threads i DO try helping people out
 
which reminds me....resveratrol will raise t-3 also....as well as natty SOD and is a natural anti-e...............at 100mg per ml e3d. its an "oral" suspension that comes in sterile water ......cant encourage injecting but do what you want with it youre on your own..........works almost as fast as dnp.......but not quite.
 
how much time do you guys suggest taking off after the first dnp run before starting a second?
 
the_anapolack said:
and heavyiron.............my motives are NOT what you think...........i only been sourcing since december and i do it because people been getting ripped off....find me on ghostgym, professionalmuscle, AM, meso,anabolic-source, cutting-edge, outlaw and mostly my home CHEMICAL ANARCHY i been pro-dnp for yrs even while payin through the ass for it..............there are just as many studies sayin its safe........maybe i can lure conciliator here he been collecting shitloads of data and is writing a book on its safety......i doubt i can get animal here but he is the real guru of dnp and just about everything else................i also would pump up lipostabil, injectable curcumin and injectable resveratrol, injectable germanium and injectable glutathione as well as injectable SOD......but is this board ready for that yet? they still talking about bulking/cutting cycles here like its the 90s.........dnp and peptides are about as cutting edge as it seems to get around here and if you look at my other threads i DO try helping people out
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Fair enough brother,

Please post an actual modern study used in humans saying DNP is safe. Not some write up by a bro but a real legit study from Pubmed.

Thanks
 
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Heavy, that was a really good read, but are inconclusive at best for me. exposure levels, durations, and Incidences were not characterized in just about EVERY report.

There is a lot of conflicting information out there, regarding this. Yes I am Pro DNP, and not just for sourcing it. I present my findings just like anyone who is "against" its use, and let those out there make an informed decision if they choose to run it or not.
 
heavyiron said:
Fair enough brother,

Please post an actual modern study used in humans saying DNP is safe. Not some write up by a bro but a real legit study from Pubmed.

Thanks
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I would like to see this too. Seems as though it will be hard to find anything current and relative. The best you're probably going to find is internet guru's on some of these chem sites.
 
OK, so after talking with Heavy, if I go through with this, I will be getting labs done a month or so after to check liver, kidney, hormone levels, metabolism, etc.. I haven't seen anyone post labs yet.
 
a few years ago i went under the knife and had a lab screen done by the anthesiologist....my lipid levels were low, my liver and kidneys were unaffected....my thyroid was really high though.......this was a week after being off the d......i blamed it on guggelsterones and forskolin
 
i'll look later....there are some studies on anti-oxidant/anti-cancer side...even some on the dna protection....all were done either small dose/long length or INJECTED into tumors....i do know there is a diabetes specialist studying it somewhere but i think its for those who have trouble with HYPERglycemia because this stuff WILL crash your blood sugar.............but there hasnt been any recent studies for years regarding fat loss because its been illegal for so long for that purpose
 
I'm looking forward to getting labs, so I can post them up. Should be good.

I wonder how DNP will affect gyno?
 
Bottom's Up said:
So to the people who have took DNP, would you say it was worth the risk and would you do it all over again if you had the chance?
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If your experienced with DNP, you'll know your limits and to be honest, as an experienced user, I don't see any risk. Your only proven risk is from overdosing, vitamin C will take care of your eyes, so no worries there.

I plan on doing a very long cycle of DNP again. 500mg a day for about 2 weeks two weeks to kick start the fat loss, after I loose about 10-15lbs I'll switch over to 200mg a day and see if I keep loosing fat.

End goal will be to keep a small amount of steady fat loss, maybe then go down to 100mg a day. I'll basically be searching for the perfect amount that gives me that not metabolism like I used to have, eat anything I want and maintain a 6 pack.


5"10
200lbs
BF = around 15% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
bigbenj said:
I'm looking forward to getting labs, so I can post them up. Should be good.

I wonder how DNP will affect gyno?
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That would be a great contribution.


5"10
200lbs
BF = around 15% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
the_anapolack said:
i'll look later....there are some studies on anti-oxidant/anti-cancer side...even some on the dna protection....all were done either small dose/long length or INJECTED into tumors....i do know there is a diabetes specialist studying it somewhere but i think its for those who have trouble with HYPERglycemia because this stuff WILL crash your blood sugar.............but there hasnt been any recent studies for years regarding fat loss because its been illegal for so long for that purpose
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I thought we found a study that showed it would not crash your blood sugar and actually cause raise it ever so slightly? Allowing you to stack DNP and insulin.


5"10
200lbs
BF = around 15% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
Thresh said:
That would be a great contribution.


5"10
200lbs
BF = around 15% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
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well i dont think dnp is a good substitute for arimidex/aromasin stack............but i do have a theory that falls along the line with the anti-cancer research......gyno lumps are fatty right? well dnp attacks fat first.....and with the uncoupling the cells shouldnt reproduce......if a cell is fighting for its life its not going to reproduce right?...........i could be wrong.....no way this will treat gyno but may help prevent it a LITTLE
 
the_anapolack said:
well i dont think dnp is a good substitute for arimidex/aromasin stack............but i do have a theory that falls along the line with the anti-cancer research......gyno lumps are fatty right? well dnp attacks fat first.....and with the uncoupling the cells shouldnt reproduce......if a cell is fighting for its life its not going to reproduce right?...........i could be wrong.....no way this will treat gyno but may help prevent it a LITTLE
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Im not sure how DNP effected cancer cells, all I know is that it was shown to reduce the size of tumors significantly.

If gyno is fat, then it should go away with DNP.


5"10
200lbs
BF = around 15% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
i wouldnt count on it.....i would think you would have better luck using the dnp for pre-emptive protection............i sure as hell aint gonna let myself get gyno to experiment though.....no way
 
I'm already running arimidex and prami, I was just curious as to if it had any effect on gyno.
 
you should be covered.....note of interest....anti-e's can "masculinize" your fat loss.....if you have slabby hips and lunch lady ars those would dissapear
 
For real though, does anyone have any studies to post? I'd like to get information on the use in humans.

Ultimately, I'll probably end up running it and keep a detailed log of my thoughts, feelings, results, and blood work.
 
Someone point me in the direction of this Conciliator fellow.
 
Bottom's Up said:
How long do you plan on taking it? When do you plan to start?

EDIT: Just saw the post above.
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I'm to sure, to be honest. Either mid cycle or towards the end. Making the order next weekend most likely. So probably the week after that.
 
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