Judge Allows Muslim Prayer Breaks During Trial

[hoyle21]

Do you have any sources supporting this blind speculation?

No because it's bullshit. A lot of states still don't sell booze until after noon on Sunday and don't sell on Christmas at all. Must be the Muslims fault.

 

[DOMS]

Do you have any sources supporting this blind speculation?

Have you ever been to court?

 

[hoyle21]

Just so long as you do not eat them with applesauce. Sour cream is okay, though...

Fuck all that. Give me a cheeseburger while I'm at it.

 

[hoyle21]

Have you ever been to court?

Probably not on Sunday.

 

[DOMS]

Probably not on Sunday.

Damn those public workers and not working seven days a week.

 

[secdrl]

No because it's bullshit. A lot of states still don't sell booze until after noon on Sunday and don't sell on Christmas at all. Must be the Muslims fault.

Stay on topic. You're attempting to use analogies that are making you look silly.

 

[DOMS]

Stay on topic. You're attempting to use analogies that are making you look silly.

It's what you do when your side of the argument is collapsing.

 

[hoyle21]

Stay on topic. You're attempting to use analogies that are making you look silly.

The point, dumbass, is Christians take a day off to get their church shit done, Muslims do it everyday.

 

[secdrl]

It's what you do when your side of the argument is collapsing.

He's known for dodging the topic and making ridiculous comparisons. Kinda par for the course with this guy...

 

[secdrl]

The point, dumbass, is Christians take a day off to get their church shit done, Muslims do it everyday.

What are you talking about my little auto-fellator? That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. The original post was about Muslims using their criminal trial to pray, something that would never be allowed to occur by any other religion or faith.

 

[hoyle21]

What are you talking about my little auto-fellator? That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. The original post was about Muslims using their criminal trial to pray, something that would never be allowed to occur by any other religion or faith.

And you can never prove that because Christians pray on Sunday morning and court is not in session. Can you wrap your pea brain around it now?

 

[maxpro2]

Absolutely. Do yourself a favor and read virtually every thread I post in this section.

You've posted previous threads about Jews and Christians being denied prayer breaks during trials?

 

[secdrl]

And you can never prove that because Christians pray on Sunday morning and court is not in session. Can you wrap your pea brain around it now?

The issue is a little bigger than what I think you're capable of understanding. The issue has never bee if they're allowed to pray or not, it's the location of it and whether or not it should/would be allowed in the court room if this was a Jewish or Christian criminal defendant. If they wanted to pray silently in their head and not disrupt the trial with numerous prayer breaks, have at it. When they make a mockery of the judicial process with their Allah Akbar bullshit, that's where the problem is.

Again, I wonder if those little girls had time for a prayer break as they were being raped and pawned off for sexual activity?

 

[LAM]

No because it's bullshit. A lot of states still don't sell booze until after noon on Sunday and don't sell on Christmas at all. Must be the Muslims fault.

Blue Laws are one of the reason's why I couldn't wait to get west of the Mississippi...I fucking hate all those stupid religious laws

 

[DOMS]

You've posted previous threads about Jews and Christians being denied prayer breaks during trials?

Your point is a logical fallacy. Christian and Jews do have to pray during count time, with the exception of a few outliers.

 

[maxpro2]

Have you ever been to court?

Many, many times. Many breaks are taken for lots of different purposes: bathroom breaks for jurors, cigarette breaks for jurors, the judge is hungry, taking a break to hear an objection in chambers, taking a break to discuss settlement prospects, etc. Court is not 9 through 4:30 nose to the grindstone. It's a little more laid back than that.

That's probably why the judge in this case is allowing the prayer breaks. He or she just doesn't give a shit. After all, what are two more breaks per day (which would probably be scheduled to coincide with other breaks)?

And, I actually commend the judge for doing this. Aside from these maniac racists like you drawing attention to this issue, allowing prayer breaks actually minimizes distracting protests and media coverage. It keeps the issue to these Defendants' alleged crimes. And it avoids any lawsuits brought by the Muslims concerning their right to take prayer breaks. And it prevents any claims as to the integrity of the trial (e.g., that the judge was biased against Muslims).

But no, let's let racism prevail over logic! That's the American way!

 

[maxpro2]

Your point is a logical fallacy. Christian and Jews do have to pray during count time, with the exception of a few outliers.

I couldn't understand your post because it didn't make any logical or grammatical sense.

 

[maxpro2]

Again, I wonder if those little girls had time for a prayer break as they were being raped and pawned off for sexual activity?

Innocent until proven guilty you racist fuck.

 

[DOMS]

Many, many times. Many breaks are taken for lots of different purposes: bathroom breaks for jurors, cigarette breaks for jurors, the judge is hungry, taking a break to hear an objection in chambers, taking a break to discuss settlement prospects, etc. Court is not 9 through 4:30 nose to the grindstone. It's a little more laid back than that.

That's probably why the judge in this case is allowing the prayer breaks. He or she just doesn't give a shit. After all, what are two more breaks per day (which would probably be scheduled to coincide with other breaks)?

And, I actually commend the judge for doing this. Aside from these maniac racists like you drawing attention to this issue, allowing prayer breaks actually minimizes distracting protests and media coverage. It keeps the issue to these Defendants' alleged crimes. And it avoids any lawsuits brought by the Muslims concerning their right to take prayer breaks. And it prevents any claims as to the integrity of the trial (e.g., that the judge was biased against Muslims).

But no, let's let racism prevail over logic! That's the American way!

I've been to court in three states and have never seen breaks handed out wilily-nilly. Yours must be a magical court.

 

[hoyle21]

Innocent until proven guilty you racist fuck.

Yes just like Sgt. Robert Bales.

 

[DOMS]

I couldn't understand your post because it didn't make any logical or grammatical sense.

I left out one word.

Your point is a logical fallacy. Christian and Jews do not have to pray during count time, with the exception of a few outliers.

The point still stands: your argument is a logical fallacy.

 

[maxpro2]

I've been to court in three states and have never seen break handed out wilily-nilly. Yours must be a magical court.

Are you an attorney?

 

[DOMS]

Are you an attorney?

Nope.

 

[DOMS]

Are you an attorney?

Also, what is your race? Your religion, if any? I'm curious as to why you seem to be so invested in Muslims.

 

[secdrl]

I've been to court in three states and have never seen breaks handed out wilily-nilly. Yours must be a magical court.

Ive been to court many times and the only break I got was a 1 hour lunch break. Max, you getting mad, bro?

 

[hoyle21]

Also, what is your race? Your religion, if any? I'm curious as to why you seem to be so invested in Muslims.

This wasn't directed to me, but I love answering questions.
Atheist
Family roots are Ashkanazi Jew, but most people just assume my last name is German.
I'm not invested in Muslims, I just find it hillarius that the entire religion is being judged by it's crazies. Especially since a look at history proves that Christians are capable of being just as vicious and nasty.

 

[maxpro2]

Nope.

Ok, that's what I thought.

White Christian. I'm not invested in Muslims. I could care less whether the judge allowed them prayer breaks or not. I have no stake in it. I'm invested countering rednecks like secdr who are bringing this country down with their irrationality, illogicalness, and racism.

I believe in obtaining all the facts before making a judgment. I don't believe in having a set agenda and arguing for or against a position based on that agenda, no matter how much it flies in the face of logical. People who hear a sensational headline and don't do any research before jumping on the bandwagon are especially horrendous to me.

Oh, and in similar cases that have been popping up where Muslims are suing their employers who fired them after taking prayer breaks while on the clock, I totally and completely side with the employer.

But in the context of court, especially a criminal trial where Defendants throw any argument that they can while on Appeal, it doesn't make sense for this judge to allow his integrity to be questioned.

 

[DOMS]

This wasn't directed to me, but I love answering questions.
Atheist
Family roots are Ashkanazi Jew, but most people just assume my last name is German.
I'm not invested in Muslims, I just find it hillarius that the entire religion is being judged by it's crazies. Especially since a look at history proves that Christians are capable of being just as vicious and nasty.

Yeah, but Christians grew out of it. Don't think so? Compare the Christian-based countries to Muslims-based countries. You'd have deny the shit of reality to think they're even close.

In the Middle East, gays get murdered by the authorities. In the USA, we have an armed police force to protect the rights of animals. Are we perfect? No. Can we do better? Sure. But we're leagues beyond the Middle East.

 

[DOMS]

Ok, that's what I thought.

That's what you thought? You mean that I'm not something I never claimed to be? Most astute. I'm also not King of Mars. Just throwing that out there...

I believe in obtaining all the facts before making a judgment. I don't believe in having a set agenda and arguing for or against a position based on that agenda, no matter how much it flies in the face of logical. People who hear a sensational headline and don't do any research before jumping on the bandwagon are especially horrendous to me.

Oh, and in similar cases that have been popping up where Muslims are suing their employers who fired them after taking prayer breaks while on the clock, I totally and completely side with the employer.

Fair enough.

But in the context of court, especially a criminal trial where Defendants throw any argument that they can while on Appeal, it doesn't make sense for this judge to allow his integrity to be questioned.

So, if I'm a smoker, I should get a break every hour or so? There are unreasonable demands.

 

[hoyle21]

Yeah, but Christians grew out of it. Don't think so? Compare the Christian-based countries to Muslims-based countries. You'd have deny the shit of reality to think they're even close.

In the Middle East, gays get murdered by the authorities. In the USA, we have an armed police force to protect the rights of animals. Are we perfect? No. Can we do better? Sure. But we're leagues beyond the Middle East.

I think western society Christians have grown out of it. As I have said before the middle east is a pre enlightenment society, and it doesn't matter if they are Christian or Muslim.

Christian honor killings in the middle east are common. We are dealing with a cultural issue, not a religious one.

Christians did do some nasty shit in Bosnia not that long ago either.