Hey all who is Gyno prone !!

[MULCH63]

I'm 5th week of my cycle and since last week struggling with sore nips. They had a slight change but nothing drastic.I can seem to shake this though. Only on 500mg Test/week. I was using Arimidex but didn't like how I felt. As of now using Nolva 40mg ED and Aromasin 25mg ED since last Tues and it seems like through out the day I get sore then not. My source is good for the AI...... Manpower.

Hate to try Letro and destroy my E and libido plus dry out my joints. I think I'm going to drop back on the Test to 300mg a week. Just want to hear if this is Gyno Prone or what. I feel like I'm holding it at bay but shouldn't be needing so much AI over just 500mg a week. I really enjoyed trying gear and the differences I am noticing BUT its a real PITA worrying all the time that I'm gonna grow bitch tits.

Maybe something different next time Prop maybe .....

 

[FordFan]

when my e2 gets high, my ankles swell and look bloated. when in doubt, bloodwork!!! It's the sure thing to do. I've gotten supposed g2g ai's from sponsors and found out by blood that the shit was bunk.

MP is usually good, but bloodwork will tell the results.

 

[Anabolic5150]

I used to use MP, have now switched to Black Lion Research Formeron and have had no issues.

 

[rage racing]

I used to use MP, have now switched to Black Lion Research Formeron and have had no issues.

Did you have a problem with MP's stuff?

 

[Ryanhill]

what body fat percentage would you say you are at?

 

[Anabolic5150]

Did you have a problem with MP's stuff?

Was running their aromasin at 25mg a day and my e2 was 150+, 3 weeks on Formeron and it was 26.

Don't know if I got a bad batch, but I personally will not use their chemicals again. Had always had good luck until then.

 

[FTW34]

Was running their aromasin at 25mg a day and my e2 was 150+, 3 weeks on Formeron and it was 26.

Don't know if I got a bad batch, but I personally will not use their chemicals again. Had always had good luck until then.

this worries me.

 

[Anabolic5150]

Blood work is the only way to know if you are ok, I would have never caught it as quick as I did without labs.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

I just bought 3 more bottles of formeron.. it's the way to go. You never have to worry about what your getting. What's on the label is what you get.

 

[Anabolic5150]

I just bought 3 more bottles of formeron.. it's the way to go. You never have to worry about what your getting. What's on the label is what you get.

I've said it before, it is the best AI that I have ever used. I've bought 3 bottles of it, out of my own pocket. Brundel was nice enough to send me one recently, but even if he hadn't I would still use it.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

It's priced better than most research chems too.. I was surprised at that. But don't tell brundel.

 

[Anabolic5150]

It's priced better than most research chems too.. I was surprised at that. But don't tell brundel.

He told me one time that he prices it so that it is affordable, he knows we spend enough on other stuff. To me that says a lot about the man and his business ethic.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

Hell yeah.. that's a stand up guy right there.

 

[Anabolic5150]

Hell yeah.. that's a stand up guy right there.

Yep. Now, back to the original thoughts of the OP, sorry for the derail.

 

[MULCH63]

what body fat percentage would you say you are at?

Not sure. 190lbs 34 waist ...if I tighten stomach I can make out my abs some. Seperation a bit in arms

 

[Anabolic5150]

Not sure. 190lbs 34 waist ...if I tighten stomach I can make out my abs some. Seperation a bit in arms

MULCH, I don't think its a body fat issue with you, nor running too high of a dose. Without labs it is really hard to tell what the issue is, but I would look first at my AI's. Sounds like you are having to dose way to high on them. But again, this is pure speculation without labs, just my opinion.

 

[WallsOfJericho]

i had gyno before i started my test cycle and had no symptoms of gyno on cycle, used ai sporadically, gyno seemed to get better?

 

[Anabolic5150]

i had gyno before i started my test cycle and had no symptoms of gyno on cycle, used ai sporadically, gyno seemed to get better?

Never heard of that, weird. I never get gyno, I do have to watch e2 though. My old training partner had terrible gyno, had to have surgery done it was so bad. It was from childhood and AAS just made it worse.

 

[MULCH63]

MULCH, I don't think its a body fat issue with you, nor running too high of a dose. Without labs it is really hard to tell what the issue is, but I would look first at my AI's. Sounds like you are having to dose way to high on them. But again, this is pure speculation without labs, just my opinion.

Starting to wonder that myself. I heard nothing but good about MP. I may just try the Black Lion. I'm an hour away from the lab and can't get away from work right now. I know its worth know BUT it doesn't add up...my low dose and all this BS

 

[Anabolic5150]

Starting to wonder that myself. I heard nothing but good about MP. I may just try the Black Lion. I'm an hour away from the lab and can't get away from work right now. I know its worth know BUT it doesn't add up...my low dose and all this BS

Sometimes there are issues that even the maker is not aware of. Like I said, I used MP for quite a while, then I got a bad batch and it was enough to start me looking around and I was lucky that TGB1987 recommended Formeron. It is the real deal 100%.

 

[FTW34]

we cant get labs where im at, let me know how it goes wit ur mp, my lab rat is on the adex frum them right now

 

[l69lou]

I' m a firm believer in only using pharm ancillaries . I have no problems with UGL for gear but there are so many stories of bunk ancillaries and with the availbility of pharmacutical meds I just don't see the need to risk it.

 

[MULCH63]

when my e2 gets high, my ankles swell and look bloated. when in doubt, bloodwork!!! It's the sure thing to do. I've gotten supposed g2g ai's from sponsors and found out by blood that the shit was bunk.

MP is usually good, but bloodwork will tell the results.

Ordered the bloods we will see.

 

[MULCH63]

Sometimes there are issues that even the maker is not aware of. Like I said, I used MP for quite a while, then I got a bad batch and it was enough to start me looking around and I was lucky that TGB1987 recommended Formeron. It is the real deal 100%.

Don't get me wrong please.... I appreciate all the info BUT hard to believe all the MP goodies are bunk. I know YOU aren't saying that but shit this is crazy. I am going tomorrow for bloods. Then we will see the Gear and the AI quality.....

PS I ordered a can of Formeron to try......

 

[msumuscle]

Don't get me wrong please.... I appreciate all the info BUT hard to believe all the MP goodies are bunk. I know YOU aren't saying that but shit this is crazy. I am going tomorrow for bloods. Then we will see the Gear and the AI quality.....

PS I ordered a can of Formeron to try......

Looking forward to seeing these results

 

[MULCH63]

Looking forward to seeing these results

I will keep all updated. When I get my labs should i post 'em on this thread ?

 

[MULCH63]

MULCH, I don't think its a body fat issue with you, nor running too high of a dose. Without labs it is really hard to tell what the issue is, but I would look first at my AI's. Sounds like you are having to dose way to high on them. But again, this is pure speculation without labs, just my opinion.

i'm going tomorrow for bloods and hopefully get the results Weds/ Thurs. I am scheduled to pin Tues night. Think its ok to wait. I'm just sooo fed up with this sore nipples and puffy shit.

 

[msumuscle]

I will keep all updated. When I get my labs should i post 'em on this thread ?

Yes, or you can start a new thread in the new forum Lab Testing. Just make sure you there's no personal information on the labs.

 

[rc771]

I feel for you bro I have the same sort of issue right now; I'm running 125mg prop ed with hcg dosed ed (200iu) and my estrogen levels are very touchy.... been dealing with the puffy nips and hate it so I went ahead and decided to try letro to control the estrogen, and even still it won't go away completely. I'm taking like .75mg letro ed and that seems to be the best choice for me; any higher I feel like shit and my joints are dry as fuck, hurt and basically feel like i'm gonna dry out like a fucken raisin, any lower the nips get a little too puffy. I used to use adex but it really is just not strong enough for me (probably due to the hcg during cycle) so maybe give letro a shot, but just make sure you don't over do it, a little goes a long way.

 

[MULCH63]

I feel for you bro I have the same sort of issue right now; I'm running 125mg prop ed with hcg dosed ed (200iu) and my estrogen levels are very touchy.... been dealing with the puffy nips and hate it so I went ahead and decided to try letro to control the estrogen, and even still it won't go away completely. I'm taking like .75mg letro ed and that seems to be the best choice for me; any higher I feel like shit and my joints are dry as fuck, hurt and basically feel like i'm gonna dry out like a fucken raisin, any lower the nips get a little too puffy. I used to use adex but it really is just not strong enough for me (probably due to the hcg during cycle) so maybe give letro a shot, but just make sure you don't over do it, a little goes a long way.

Well I want to see my bloods first. I started on Adex .5 EOD then moved to ED . Had a headache all day. Switched to Aromasin with very little luck but currently taking 25mg ED and at night a 40mg Nolva. Just seems suspicious.... !!!