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Static Contraction Exercises
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Perform negatives instead.
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I have and they are very effective! But don't do them on a regular basis because they are so demanding on your joints , more so than regular exercises or reps!
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They are really effective for chins.I don't know about other exercises.
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Well, the point in static contraction training is to be able to work the muscle with more resistance than standard training. Static contraction training has a very small strength transfer to other portions of the lift, usually plus or minus 15 degrees.
Negative training takes this to a further degree (you can lower more weight than you can hold statically)...and there is a full ROM.
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Negative training takes this to a further degree (you can lower more weight than you can hold statically)...and there is a full ROM.
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I wouldn't say they are a waste of time, I've done negatives on just about every exercise possible and have gotten fantastic results! But even if you don't do them that doesn't mean that your strength is going to stop progressing! Some people like them and some don't but they're not a necessity!
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lying? sorry I don't lie.Bench Press is a mass building exercise therefore you need to use heavy weight to increase your strength. Cable crossovers are a burning exercise that you use to get the burn in your pecs. Common sense #1 Mass building then reping exercise, I have never heard anyone (that know what they are talking about) say that Cable Crossovers are a mass building exercise. And another thing I don't tell these things to piss people off, just to try and help them. I have been lifting for 6 or 7 years and I think I know what I am talking about. thanks and goodbye
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"lying? sorry I don't lie."
You just lied with that statement.
Anyway...
Some of the so called shaping exercises are more effective than the so called mass building exercises at building muscle. For example, the cable cross-over. The cable cross-over removes the primary weak links of the bench press, which means the pecs have to do all of the work to complete the motion. Muscle fibers are stimulated by the nervous system by way of alpha motor neurons. Each neuron may control only several muscle fibers or as many as a thousand or more. Each muscle fiber, however, is innervated by only one neuron. A neuron and the fibers it innervates are referred to as a motor unit. All of the muscle fibers in a motor unit (stimulated by the same neuron) tend to be of the same fiber type. You may have heard of the 'all-or-none' theory in regards to this subject. It states that all of the fibers in a motor unit must fire or none of them, although this may not be 100% true in certain cases (such as fatigue).
How does the neuron "innervate" it's associated muscle fibers? Well, the neuron "connects" to the fibers at their center (their length-wise center). To innervate them they transmit an electric current to the fibers, which travels out from the center of the fibers to their ends, thus setting off a contraction. That is a nut-shell how contraction works. What i am getting at here is that the actual exercise does not matter, it's the force of the contraction. Doing a flye, at maximum intensity, to failure, will produce the highest possible force of muscle contraction to the pecs! This means - more muscle growth. There are also other reasons that isolation exercises induce more localized growth than compound exercises (localized hormone release, sarcomere multiplication is series, etc).
About the whole burning thing, muscle burn has nothing to do with muscle fiber stimulation. The burn is, in fact, an effect of lactic acid accumulation. Lactic acid leads to a DECREASE of the force of muscular contraction. Lactic acid also interferes with ATP formation (inteferes with the glycolysis process). This means that less ATP will be around to actually fuel contractions - leading to further weakening.
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You just lied with that statement.
Anyway...
Some of the so called shaping exercises are more effective than the so called mass building exercises at building muscle. For example, the cable cross-over. The cable cross-over removes the primary weak links of the bench press, which means the pecs have to do all of the work to complete the motion. Muscle fibers are stimulated by the nervous system by way of alpha motor neurons. Each neuron may control only several muscle fibers or as many as a thousand or more. Each muscle fiber, however, is innervated by only one neuron. A neuron and the fibers it innervates are referred to as a motor unit. All of the muscle fibers in a motor unit (stimulated by the same neuron) tend to be of the same fiber type. You may have heard of the 'all-or-none' theory in regards to this subject. It states that all of the fibers in a motor unit must fire or none of them, although this may not be 100% true in certain cases (such as fatigue).
How does the neuron "innervate" it's associated muscle fibers? Well, the neuron "connects" to the fibers at their center (their length-wise center). To innervate them they transmit an electric current to the fibers, which travels out from the center of the fibers to their ends, thus setting off a contraction. That is a nut-shell how contraction works. What i am getting at here is that the actual exercise does not matter, it's the force of the contraction. Doing a flye, at maximum intensity, to failure, will produce the highest possible force of muscle contraction to the pecs! This means - more muscle growth. There are also other reasons that isolation exercises induce more localized growth than compound exercises (localized hormone release, sarcomere multiplication is series, etc).
About the whole burning thing, muscle burn has nothing to do with muscle fiber stimulation. The burn is, in fact, an effect of lactic acid accumulation. Lactic acid leads to a DECREASE of the force of muscular contraction. Lactic acid also interferes with ATP formation (inteferes with the glycolysis process). This means that less ATP will be around to actually fuel contractions - leading to further weakening.
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since you "think" you know what you are talking about, why arenn't you a professional bodybuilder? your knowledge of the sport is very amusing. you think db flys are good for negatives? maybe if you want to tear the hell out of your pec. Do you max on the curl machines, and calve machine-you make me laugh, keep typing; and keep failing
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*** Walter, instead of attacking him personally, it may help to formulate a articulate argument instead of resorting to name calling.
What do yoiu think?
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Walter,since I started this post and since i have been in your shoes on another site which I won't mention, let me just say this.The first person to slam,name call, or just plan insult the other person losses, right or wrong. Like I said, I have been in your shoes and even though I thought and still think I was right I resorted to the above mentioned and I came away a loser. My advice, let it go or present your side, but don't attack.
