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my poor quad... PIP kills

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How do you draw it up through that small pin? Doesn't it take forever to inject? You must have like no bodyfat if that needle is long enough to give IM injections.
you can get 28g .inch slin pins. its very easy to draw. dont know why people say it wont work. ive done testE300 mast200 and trenblend. they are thiicker and still no prob. im just under 8% bf.
 
I started with 23g 1" and switched 25g1?1/2" like it much better. My quads always used to hurt till i switched to gear made with eo instead of BA. Delts and glutes have always been much better as far as pain goes. Good luck
 
Fck the 25g needles. Just did my glute shot and had to readjust my grip because the damn 25g needle is impossible to push and I knicked the needle and it hurt like hell. Wouldn't have been a fucking problem if it didn't take me 45 seconds to inject.
I do the one thrust dart method and bam to the hilt it's in and you are supposed to inject slowly , going too fast is one of the reasons guys get those big knots. And yes 22 or 23g work great but over years you can get scar tissue build up that is the main reason for using the thinner needle along with comfort. On quads I too go on the outside about halfway up, that's my sweet spot.
 
If you pin with lower than a 25g using short esters, prepared to get some great scar tissue buildup... Just a word of caution. And yeah, you don't know pain until you put 1.5ml of test prop into a virgin quad muscle. Felt like I got stabbed for days....
 
you can get 28g .inch slin pins. its very easy to draw. dont know why people say it wont work. ive done testE300 mast200 and trenblend. they are thiicker and still no prob. im just under 8% bf.

I guess if that works have at it. I'd assume there is a reason the medical community does 22-23g for most IM injections. I know in my experience I get less pain afterwards and I can inject much faster without pushing the hell out of the plunger.
 
If you pin with lower than a 25g using short esters, prepared to get some great scar tissue buildup... Just a word of caution. And yeah, you don't know pain until you put 1.5ml of test prop into a virgin quad muscle. Felt like I got stabbed for days....

Shoot some high mg/ml test or deca into a quad. Have fun walking! I found that high mg/ml gear to be far worse than prop. I've heard of prop being 200mg/ml and I assume that is pretty brutal. I've had 400mg/ml deca and test...both sucked ass.
 
I'm on my first cycle with test300 e and chose to shoot quads. The first few quads were very sore.I started heating the gear and got better at injections and no pip anymore.

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Shoot some high mg/ml test or deca into a quad. Have fun walking! I found that high mg/ml gear to be far worse than prop. I've heard of prop being 200mg/ml and I assume that is pretty brutal. I've had 400mg/ml deca and test...both sucked ass.

Got me beat with that one. 400mg/ml test takes people out for up to 2 weeks sometimes. I'm not insane enough to use it unless I brew it myself.
 
Wait till you pin in the glute and then sit down to crap... fun stuff
 
I draw the oil out with a 20g needle (flows like water), then pop on a 25g for injecting. Never been a problem. Yeah, you have to apply a significant load of pressure especially with certain brands of tren, but it ain't no thing. Just push that mawfaw. Takes probably 25 seconds total, and that's because I ease it in real slow.

BTW, when you say you knicked the needle...on what? Just a nerve? I've done that, and my quad jerks uncontrollably real quick. Just hold the needle steady and keep pushing.

I was injecting into my left glute and needed to switch grip so I could aspirate and i just bumped the syringe and the needle moved inside a little bit. Made me jump haha. Did get some PIP from that injection.

Im shooting left quad tomorrow AM. Gonna try a 1" instead of the 1.5" and shoot a little higher up on the quad.
 
Man, all I can say is that my test injections always hurt. The initial pin is painless, but within 4 hours I start hurting and my ass is sore for the next day or two. IDK why, but test E has always made me sore. Just life I guess.
 
It will get better bro. First couple times with quads were a killer. Try delts....i never get any pain from them.

I get pain in the delts for two days but no pain in the quads or glutes.
 
Man, all I can say is that my test injections always hurt. The initial pin is painless, but within 4 hours I start hurting and my ass is sore for the next day or two. IDK why, but test E has always made me sore. Just life I guess.

its inevitable. got PIP with my first 3 injections. just did my fourth into my right glute, didnt move the needle at all and now my ass is starting to hurt. will be fun tomorrow :)

tried the 1" in the quad, didnt notice a difference
 
I only get PIP in my left quad, never in my right. What the fuck....

Same here...I did left quad last week to give my right a break and it left me sore for like 2-3 days. My right doesn't really get sore. I dont know how to explain that. Today gonna hit right glute and see if that produces pain. As a general statement I can say test c is less painful compared to test e or p.
 
Same here...I did left quad last week to give my right a break and it left me sore for like 2-3 days. My right doesn't really get sore. I dont know how to explain that. Today gonna hit right glute and see if that produces pain. As a general statement I can say test c is less painful compared to test e or p.


Yeah it's weird, right quad doesnt leave any pip. The left however 2 days later is pretty painful, hard to bend etc...
 
Yeah it's weird, right quad doesnt leave any pip. The left however 2 days later is pretty painful, hard to bend etc...

Assuming pip is post injection pain, I dont get any of that no matter where I inject. I thought pip could account for the soreness the couple days after. I get very little to no soreness in my right quad. My left feels like someone kicked me there for 2-3 days afterwards. However the day of the injection I have no pains
 
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