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Or just an ai, like aromasin?
Also, if I am reading correctly, must it be injected every day in small doses?
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Also, if I am reading correctly, must it be injected every day in small doses?
malfeasance
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Yep. How frequently?
malfeasance
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From the articles on the main page of this web site.
World-Pharma.org
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Heavy how you like Trenabolic amps inject?
malfeasance
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Do either tren acetate or enanthate cause a lot of pain after injection? I thought I saw a post where somebody was complaining that tren enanthate caused a lot of pain.
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Why are ampoules better?
World-Pharma.org
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Amps are best,GMP made and best and most Sterile! Always safer 1ml amp then 10ml vial!
And a lot of Athlets always use only Ampules!
best-regards
wp
And a lot of Athlets always use only Ampules!
best-regards
wp
malfeasance
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Is it true for either?
malfeasance
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Pain and soreness from tren ace or tren enth or just like test?
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I don't get pain from Tren injections. I also pin Tren Ace with an Insulin pin though.
Shot straight to the delt.
Shot straight to the delt.
it seems everyone always runs tren a with test p. can you run tren a with hrt dose of test c?
Yes, no problem.
malfeasance
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Well, the pin should not matter as to whether it is sore later, should it?
Why an insulin pin? Is it not in oil?
Very smooth and strong. Zero tren cough so far. Amps are crystal clear. No cloudiness like other brands.
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good shit! Its great with Test-C and EQ. Nice rock hard gains. Looooovvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeee It!
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Thanks for info Heavyiron.
Yup, I have never seen tren that was so clean looking as Asia Pharma. Most of the time there is slight cloudiness or turbidity in tren from improper filtration or from conversion from cattle implants but Asia Pharma has zero turbidity. Looks to be very high quality.
Trenbolone Anabolic Pharmacology By Seth Roberts
Pharmacology is the study of drugs and their effects. Anabolic Pharmacology is the study of drugs that have a growth-promoting effect in muscle. This column will explore Anabolic Pharmacology by profiling a different anabolic drug and its effects each month. The focus of discussion this month will be the anabolic androgenic steroid, Trenbolone.
Trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone, in that it lacks the methyl group at position 19. Trenbolone binds strongly to both the androgen receptor and the progesterone receptor.1 This strong binding likely makes trenbolone an agonist of the progesterone receptor. Though people generally believe progesterone agonists cause gynecomastia, progesterone agonists actually result in the downregulation of estrogen receptors. This strong progesterone receptor binding is also believed to be the source of the severe shutdown and loss of libido in a good portion of trenbolone users. As mentioned, trenbolone binds strongly to the androgen receptor (stronger than any commercially available androgen) and is not metabolized to 3-alpha metabolites in skeletal muscle delivering rapid strength and size gains.2
Trenbolone appears to have an antiglucocorticoid effect in animals, but there is no reason to believe that this does not occur in humans as well.3,4 Trenbolone cannot be converted to estrogens and although it is commonly believed that trenbolone is not 5-alpha reduced, there is a paper in the literature that shows trenbolone to be less potent in tissues with high levels of 5-alpha reductase.4
This is exactly the same thing that is seen with nandrolone, and since trenbolone is also a 19-nor steroid, it is reasonable to assume, based on this evidence, that trenbolone is in fact 5-alpha reduced to less potent metabolites. This would also partly explain the reports of gynecomastia, as well as the shutdowns that are seen with trenbolone, even though it does not convert to estrogen. The decreased androgenic stimulation as a result of the production of less potent 5-alpha reduced androgens upsets the androgen-to-estrogen balance that results in greater net estrogenic signaling in the breast and hypothalamus.
The main problem with trenbolone is that it is very difficult (if not impossible) to find in a preparation that is made for human consumption. Trenbolone used to be available as Parabolan, but if it is made anymore (which no one seems to be in agreement about) it is not readily available. Most of the tren that is currently available on the black market is made from cattle implants called Finaplix®. Several underground labs have created injectable versions of this drug by dissolving the pellets in a solvent and bottling the solution. Kits are also available through many sources that allow a person to make their own injectable at home from the pellets.
The problem with these underground versions and homemade concoctions is that they are not produced in a sterile fashion. This can lead to abscess, sepsis, and even anaphylactic shock, followed by death. Also, the solvents used to dissolve the pellets are not meant to be injected and can cause the same problems with the additional possibility of poisoning.
Trenbolone is available with acetate, enanthate or occasionally the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate esters. The acetate ester is injected daily or every other day and was previously available in a veterinary product called Finaject that is no longer produced. The enanthate ester is produced by underground labs and could be injected every 7-10 days but is probably injected more frequently by AAS users. The hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester was originally produced as a pharmaceutical grade human-use product with the name Parabolan but hasn???t been made in a long time. It seems to pop up in underground preparations from time to time and has a similar half-life as the enanthate ester and therefore is injected weekly or biweekly.
Trenbolone is a very potent anabolic that can produce dramatic increases in weight and strength, especially when combined with other anabolics. Along with this potency comes the likelihood for androgenic side effects such as high blood pressure, acne and hair loss among others. This steroid also has a reputation for being toxic to the kidneys. There is no direct evidence for this side effect in the scientific literature but since the kidneys do respond to androgenic stimulation and trenbolone can cause hypertension, which can also damage the kidneys, care should be taken.
References:
1. 233. Ojasoo T, Delettre J, Mornon JP, Turpin-VanDycke C, Raynaud JP: Towards the mapping of the progesterone and androgen receptors. J Steroid Biochem, 1987:27(1-3):255-69.
2. 235. Schanzer W: Metabolism of anabolic androgenic steroids. Clin Chem, 1996:42(7):1001-20.
3. 286. Jones SJ, Johnson RD, Calkins CR, Dikeman ME: Effects of trenbolone acetate on carcass characteristics and serum testosterone and cortisol concentrations in bulls and steers on different management and implant schemes. J Anim Sci, 1991:69(4):1363-9.
4. 287. Wilson VS, Lambright C, Ostby J, Gray LE Jr: In vitro and in vivo effects of 17beta-trenbolone: a feedlot effluent contaminant. Toxicol Sci, 2002:70(2):202-11.
Pharmacology is the study of drugs and their effects. Anabolic Pharmacology is the study of drugs that have a growth-promoting effect in muscle. This column will explore Anabolic Pharmacology by profiling a different anabolic drug and its effects each month. The focus of discussion this month will be the anabolic androgenic steroid, Trenbolone.
Trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone, in that it lacks the methyl group at position 19. Trenbolone binds strongly to both the androgen receptor and the progesterone receptor.1 This strong binding likely makes trenbolone an agonist of the progesterone receptor. Though people generally believe progesterone agonists cause gynecomastia, progesterone agonists actually result in the downregulation of estrogen receptors. This strong progesterone receptor binding is also believed to be the source of the severe shutdown and loss of libido in a good portion of trenbolone users. As mentioned, trenbolone binds strongly to the androgen receptor (stronger than any commercially available androgen) and is not metabolized to 3-alpha metabolites in skeletal muscle delivering rapid strength and size gains.2
Trenbolone appears to have an antiglucocorticoid effect in animals, but there is no reason to believe that this does not occur in humans as well.3,4 Trenbolone cannot be converted to estrogens and although it is commonly believed that trenbolone is not 5-alpha reduced, there is a paper in the literature that shows trenbolone to be less potent in tissues with high levels of 5-alpha reductase.4
This is exactly the same thing that is seen with nandrolone, and since trenbolone is also a 19-nor steroid, it is reasonable to assume, based on this evidence, that trenbolone is in fact 5-alpha reduced to less potent metabolites. This would also partly explain the reports of gynecomastia, as well as the shutdowns that are seen with trenbolone, even though it does not convert to estrogen. The decreased androgenic stimulation as a result of the production of less potent 5-alpha reduced androgens upsets the androgen-to-estrogen balance that results in greater net estrogenic signaling in the breast and hypothalamus.
The main problem with trenbolone is that it is very difficult (if not impossible) to find in a preparation that is made for human consumption. Trenbolone used to be available as Parabolan, but if it is made anymore (which no one seems to be in agreement about) it is not readily available. Most of the tren that is currently available on the black market is made from cattle implants called Finaplix®. Several underground labs have created injectable versions of this drug by dissolving the pellets in a solvent and bottling the solution. Kits are also available through many sources that allow a person to make their own injectable at home from the pellets.
The problem with these underground versions and homemade concoctions is that they are not produced in a sterile fashion. This can lead to abscess, sepsis, and even anaphylactic shock, followed by death. Also, the solvents used to dissolve the pellets are not meant to be injected and can cause the same problems with the additional possibility of poisoning.
Trenbolone is available with acetate, enanthate or occasionally the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate esters. The acetate ester is injected daily or every other day and was previously available in a veterinary product called Finaject that is no longer produced. The enanthate ester is produced by underground labs and could be injected every 7-10 days but is probably injected more frequently by AAS users. The hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester was originally produced as a pharmaceutical grade human-use product with the name Parabolan but hasn???t been made in a long time. It seems to pop up in underground preparations from time to time and has a similar half-life as the enanthate ester and therefore is injected weekly or biweekly.
Trenbolone is a very potent anabolic that can produce dramatic increases in weight and strength, especially when combined with other anabolics. Along with this potency comes the likelihood for androgenic side effects such as high blood pressure, acne and hair loss among others. This steroid also has a reputation for being toxic to the kidneys. There is no direct evidence for this side effect in the scientific literature but since the kidneys do respond to androgenic stimulation and trenbolone can cause hypertension, which can also damage the kidneys, care should be taken.
References:
1. 233. Ojasoo T, Delettre J, Mornon JP, Turpin-VanDycke C, Raynaud JP: Towards the mapping of the progesterone and androgen receptors. J Steroid Biochem, 1987:27(1-3):255-69.
2. 235. Schanzer W: Metabolism of anabolic androgenic steroids. Clin Chem, 1996:42(7):1001-20.
3. 286. Jones SJ, Johnson RD, Calkins CR, Dikeman ME: Effects of trenbolone acetate on carcass characteristics and serum testosterone and cortisol concentrations in bulls and steers on different management and implant schemes. J Anim Sci, 1991:69(4):1363-9.
4. 287. Wilson VS, Lambright C, Ostby J, Gray LE Jr: In vitro and in vivo effects of 17beta-trenbolone: a feedlot effluent contaminant. Toxicol Sci, 2002:70(2):202-11.
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MMmmmmmmmm Tren
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nice read and interested! now i see why its soo expensive!
Yup, I have never seen tren that was so clean looking as Asia Pharma. Most of the time there is slight cloudiness or turbidity in tren from improper filtration or from conversion from cattle implants but Asia Pharma has zero turbidity. Looks to be very high quality.
Yup, I have never seen tren that was so clean looking as Asia Pharma. Most of the time there is slight cloudiness or turbidity in tren from improper filtration or from conversion from cattle implants but Asia Pharma has zero turbidity. Looks to be very high quality.
Not only is the Asia Pharma tren the cleanest I have ever seen its the best I have ever injected. Very smooth and zero pain. No tren cough so far. I will continue testing it and update.
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Thanks for info..its nice to hear no tren cough,its can be real bad. its cant happen when gear is GMP made!
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I had some killer pains at first with tren ace when hitting the quads. It eventually went away with more injections. I believe it was due to my quads being virgin muscles, as I only hit the glutes previously.
You shouldn't have any pain, but depending on the process of the lab it could hurt more than others. Most guys will cut their test prop with more oil to relieve some pain on future injects, for example.
Thanks for info..its nice to hear no tren cough,its can be real bad. its cant happen when gear is GMP made!
out of interest, what causes the 'tren cough'? Is it impurities in the GEars?
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its tell you how pure is gear..
old parabolan negma that was also GMP never give that problem at all!
old parabolan negma that was also GMP never give that problem at all!
I have been pinning DP Tren Ace, my first time with tren, ed at 40mg for the past 7 days. 4 of those 7 days were into virgin muscles, both delts and quads. Very little pain at all which was surprising as i was expecting my quads to have a decent amount of pain afterwards.
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bump it,since is winter time,trenbolone time 
malfeasance
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Wintertime? In Australia, perhaps.bump it,since is winter time,trenbolone time
