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dirtbiker666 said:
I want to feel like I accomplish something everyday with challenges and get paid well. I don't want to be beat up from my job either. I am not saying this to sound cocky. If I had to I would flip burgers to support my self. The way I look at it is I have one life to live and I can accomplish anything I want as long as I put my mind to it.
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but you dont..you collecting unemployment..no wonder the country is fucked up
 
dirtbiker666 said:
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LOL sales the money would be nice I was thinking pharma sales honestly as well. Problem is I want job security and longevity. Ahhhhhhh hate this thanks for the support everyone.!!!
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For pharma/medical sales you'll need a degree. Since your in the Bay Area you have probably heard of McKesson. Here in GA McKesson will hire you out of college for $40k+ starting off doing inside phone sales. Assuming you become shit hot at that, you can transition your way into outside sales but you have to continue to be shit hot or your gone. Lets say I know someone who does payroll at McKesson....I can tell you there are many outside sales people with $80-100k base AND get 8,000-10,000-12,000/mo commission. Obviously they are very good at what they do and are producing.

Another field where there is big money that you can start out on the ground floor and work your way up is commercial insurance. You basically start out as a broker's assistant for $30-40/year and usually get a bonus at the end of the year from your broker. These bonuses can be a few grand from a jew, to a guy I know who got $80K and his broker paid his taxes. I know brokers who make $125K base with $450K bonuses (they have to produce obviously) and I know of one top broker who got a $750K bonus last year (these big timers have multiple broker's assistants). As you work and succeed as broker's assistant, you either get tapped to become a broker yourself within the company or your find a job as a broker. Worst case you stay broker's assistant forever under a successful broker and you still make really good money.

I do agree with the others....get a marketable 4 year degree and/or learn a skilled trade like electrician/HVAC/plumbing. Medical and IT is the future IMO and Medical IT would be the cat's ass as far as stability goes.

I'm not sure why you former MIL guys are flocking to University of Phoenix (I know a bunch here that are there now) but being a private college your GI Bill dollar doesn't go very far when compared to a state school. To maximize your GI Bill, consider a legit 2 year community college that offers an easy transfer of credits to a state college for your last two years. Doing that, you should have money left over at the end of four years to put the GI Bill toward some fun education.

Another thing....if you don't have to work while going to school, consider an accelerated bachelors program where you go to school 40hrs a week and knock out a degree fast. State colleges offer this just like the University of Phoenix does.
 
Big Pimpin said:
For pharma/medical sales you'll need a degree. Since your in the Bay Area you have probably heard of McKesson. Here in GA McKesson will hire you out of college for $40k+ starting off doing inside phone sales. Assuming you become shit hot at that, you can transition your way into outside sales but you have to continue to be shit hot or your gone. Lets say I know someone who does payroll at McKesson....I can tell you there are many outside sales people with $80-100k base AND get 8,000-10,000-12,000/mo commission. Obviously they are very good at what they do and are producing.

Another field where there is big money that you can start out on the ground floor and work your way up is commercial insurance. You basically start out as a broker's assistant for $30-40/year and usually get a bonus at the end of the year from your broker. These bonuses can be a few grand from a jew, to a guy I know who got $80K and his broker paid his taxes. I know brokers who make $125K base with $450K bonuses (they have to produce obviously) and I know of one top broker who got a $750K bonus last year. As you work and succeed as broker's assistant, you either get tapped to become a broker yourself within the company or your find a job as a broker. Worst case you stay broker's assistant forever under a successful broker and you still make really good money.

I do agree with the others....get a marketable 4 year degree and/or learn a skilled trade like electrician/HVAC/plumbing. Medical and IT is the future IMO and Medical IT would be the cat's ass as far as stability goes.

I'm not sure why you former MIL guys are flocking to University of Phoenix (I know a bunch here that are there now) but being a private college your GI Bill dollar doesn't go very far when compared to a state school. To maximize your GI Bill, consider a legit 2 year community college that offers an easy transfer of credits to a state college for your last two years. Doing that, you should have money left over at the end of four years to put the GI Bill toward some fun education.

Another thing....if you don't have to work while going to school, consider an accelerated bachelors program where you go to school 40hrs a week and knock out a degree fast. State colleges offer this just like the University of Phoenix does.
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^^i was about to post that
 
Fuck sales, it's all about commission and being a pushy cunt. Who the fk is going to sell during a recession?

Study commodity cycles, Write your own algorithms and trade futures. In particularly silver, gold and grains - I shit you not this is a piss easy way to make the big bucks if you got a net connection and a little nouce.
 
or do cardiopulmonary resuscitation(CPR) and automated external defibrillation(AED) course..worked for azza
 
dirtbiker666 said:
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LOL sales the money would be nice I was thinking pharma sales honestly as well. Problem is I want job security and longevity. Ahhhhhhh hate this thanks for the support everyone.!!!
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Go to a business school and learn Lean production, kaizen and everything that goes with it. Do the six sigma thing, too. Be a lean consultant. It truly is the way of the future.
 
Zaphod said:
Go to a business school and learn Lean production, kaizen and everything that goes with it. Do the six sigma thing, too. Be a lean consultant. It truly is the way of the future.
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I know what you mean with the six sigma crap, I had to take all of the classes for it than had to help teach it to all military on my post and civilian's that worked on post
 
dirtbiker666 said:
Kind of stuck. Got out of the military a little bit ago and don't know what to do. I was a mechanic for several years before I joined but do not want to fall back into that. It beats you up the money is not that good and when I am 50 I don't want to be doing it or managing a shop. I love and since I was a kid it was a dream to operate heavy equipment but with layoffs and other issues it does not seem to promising. I have looked into pharmaceutical sales like being a rep, Biomedical equipment tech...Fixing Mri and x-ray machines and or U.s marshal. Other jobs would be some type of saftey person for a plant or railroad company would be cool too. I am 25 and have a full GI bill I could use to get an education. Or if I get into the union I could use my GI bill as income since it is training. I want to make a good living with out beating my self up.
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Were you active duty at all?? Or deployed
 
???SIL??? said:
but you dont..you collecting unemployment..no wonder the country is fucked up
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I was thinking the same thing when I read this. Typical bull shit, everyone says they'll do the shit jobs if they have to, but when it comes down to it they are just lazy fucks leeching off the working class.
 
Unemployment and college for software engineering.... Get on unemployment and use the gi Bill... one of my best friends I'd doing that
 
Been there done that.
Get paid to go to school......best thing!! But working and fishing up school now.
 
Dont be ashamed to collect unemployment. That is what it is for to help people that are in need. Its the lazy people that take advantage of it. As long as your working to some thing better focus on what is going to benefit your self. Go to school use your GI-bill and pass all your classes. Collect unemployment while you go to school and use your veterans benefits. If any one deserves unemployment its veterans. That was my plan while going to school for exercise science, but I feel into this job as an IT while on terminal leave (10 year vet as a cyptotech and IT in the Navy).

If you want to get into the medical field I would say go into the orthopedic side (TONS of money there) and become a PA. The average income where I live is around 40k cost of living is not that high, where a PA will make 120k where I work a year. The highest paid Dr. makes 50k a month. There is allot of money in orthopedics, then you can get in business with professional athletes and ect. It blows my mind how often I see a pro athlete walk into where I work, or I will walk into an exam room to work on the computer and shit Mcfadden is sitting right there. Wish it was not against the rules to ask for autographs, but it is just cool to work in a place like this. I keep a football in my desk at all times, just incase I get the chance to get an autograph. We are aloud to accept them if they offer, but we can not ask.

Pharma sales is a GREAT job. Some thing that will all ways be around, but there is allot of work involved and sales is not easy. I was a recruiter for 4 years (very successful at it) but I would say only 10% of people in sales actually are good at it and half of those actually like it. Pharma sales would probably be allot easier and more fun, but the pressure of the sale is all ways hard and stressful if the market is not there.
 
jay_steel said:
Dont be ashamed to collect unemployment. That is what it is for to help people that are in need. Its the lazy people that take advantage of it. As long as your working to some thing better focus on what is going to benefit your self. Go to school use your GI-bill and pass all your classes. Collect unemployment while you go to school and use your veterans benefits. If any one deserves unemployment its veterans.

+1
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???SIL??? said:
but you dont..you collecting unemployment..no wonder the country is fucked up
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...won't be for to much longer and call me a hypocrite if you want but I make decent money collecting unemployment that I paid into and would be taking a big pay cut. Honestly I do not care what anyone thinks like I said its the first and last time I will ever be doing so. And I just got out of the military and if anyone deserves to get unemployment its a soldier.
 
Damm a lot of good info here I am going to be reading and reading every post and looking deeper into everything. Thank you for all the info guys. And for the people saying I am pos I don't care I am not collecting it for ever its just until I get on my feet. I want to be successful I have dreams and I want to be something in life. I also wanted to note that if I wanted to instead of using the GI bill I can do a program that is called vocational rehab. Which instead of only getting what your GI bill is worth I can pick a career and have a counselor by my side the whole time and the whole thing will be paid for.
 
HeavyLifter said:
I know what you mean with the six sigma crap, I had to take all of the classes for it than had to help teach it to all military on my post and civilian's that worked on post
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That is one of the reasons the Japanese killed the fuck out of our auto industry.
 
Big Pimpin said:
I'm not sure why they are hating about unemployment. I could see if you were on welfare and food stamps sitting at home on your ass playing video games but not unemployment.
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True and I am not going to lie I cannot stand when people go into the wawa or any convenient store an order 3 cheese steaks and energy drinks with there food stamp card. Like wtf you should only be aloud to get groceries. It should be set up like WIC if you know what that is . They print you out a check with the amount and size of the items you are aloud to get IE.. Cheese bread milk and eggs.I remember a few months ago when people were so mad they cut unemployment back from 99 weeks to 72 weeks. 72 weeks is adequate time to figure shit out. I honestly think it should only be 6 months. You have to take a class for resume and to better your self for future jobs and so many people were bitching in the class it was pretty funny even though I did not have to do it because I did a 3 days class in the military . I am kinda of going back and fourth here but with your food stamp card some mom an pop places are letting people get cash back now with a ten dollar fee which is ridiculous too. One of my buddies has been trying for 6 months to figure out a way to get fired or laid off from his job so he can sit on his ass an collect unemployment. Well he did 3 no call no shows an he got fired. Is he collecting unemployment ? Hell yes but his job is now fighting it and he is going to have to fight it. The problem is he will be able to fight it an keep collecting away its disgusting . We are no longer buddies and I told him he is a fucking disgrace to humanity. Honestly out generation is fucked up. No one wants to work hard or hell even work. Everyone wants to bitch an complain how hard we have it when honestly they have no idea what it could be like. I think it should be mandatory to serve for two years out of high school regardless of sex and it will put a lot of think in perspective for future generations.
 
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I think I am going to go to school for bio medical equipment tech. X ray tech and radiation therapy does not look to bad either.
 
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what did you do in the military? you could possibly get a job at blackwater. I would get a software design degree, move to marina del rey on the beach here in LA and live on a sailboat and work for EA sportrs right here in playa del rey. Weed is legal here, smoke weed and get payed to design and play video games. I hear video game testers make $10hr to start, no high school diploma required, just play games all day
 
dirtbiker666 said:
I think I am going to go to school for bio medical equipment tech. X ray tech and radiation therapy does not look to bad either.
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The only thing you need to be aware of (if you don't already) with any skilled medical program/degree is usually you have to compete to get into said medical program, meaning you need to have a good GPA so take every class serious. Good luck and thanks for serving.
 
Big Pimpin said:
The only thing you need to be aware of (if you don't already) with any skilled medical program/degree is usually you have to compete to get into said medical program, meaning you need to have a good GPA so take every class serious. Good luck and thanks for serving.
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you are reading my mind
 
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