UN-BIASED review of ptren LOG

[spunoutdj]

I have read a couple logs on this newly available compound, and they make ptren sound like a miracle drug. Some of the effects were noticed within 24 hours? Some sides include energy and euphoria? Not liver toxic? Sounds too good to be true, but it definitely sparked my interest. This is an unbiased log. I will not update this log everyday, as I plan on running the ptren for 8 weeks. Since I havent been able to find a log from someone who isnt AT ALL connected to the sponsor or given a free sample, I ordered 2g and will do it myself. The goal of this cycle is to gain some muscle mass as well as hopefully recomp with ptren's ability to burn fat.

STATS:
27 years old
198 lbs (at start of cycle)
6'0"
13%bf

AAS EXPERIENCE:
Superdrol (oral)
M1T (oral)
Tbol (oral)
Prop (IM)
I've run some of these compounds several times.

This cycle will be 8 weeks of Ptren and test prop. Since I have done test alone before, I'll be able to see the differences / benefits of adding ptren. Ptren will be dosed at 2mg 3x daily, for a total of 6mg a day. Also running some Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD and some hcg at 500iu a week.


LOG:
Ptren was ordered from a popular sponsor, and all the 2g was made into a 500mL oral solution with grain alcohol and glycerine (thanks to OverB for recipe). Ive heard that eating the raw powder tastes like chili powder, but this oral solution isnt much better. Its spicy, but tolerable. I have been running them for 5 days now and have already seen my strength go up, as well as my stamina in the gym. Doubt it can be attributed to the test so early in the cycle. Routine as of now is:

MON: Chest , Bi's
TUES: Legs
WED: cardio (bike or eliptical)
THURS: Shoulders, Tri's
FRI: Back, Abs
Weekends: Rest

As of day 5, I have not noticed any of the increased energy or euphoria some people have described, although I am not lethargic or anything either. Maybe its too soon to judge? Stay Tuned. Pics on the way.

 

[AugustWest]

Subbed, in 4 the ride. Unbiased is the only way to go.

 

[SUPERFLY1234]

just running ptren by it self? not going to stack it?

 

[spunoutdj]

6mg ptren /day, and 500mg /week of prop

 

[Standard Donkey]

according to a thread in the ASF, ptren is actually altrenogest

 

[colochine]

according to a thread in the ASF, ptren is actually altrenogest

Sounds interesting

 

[Tris10]

Pointless thread.. SD already said it! Oh and I wouldn't buy it coming from a new member with 15 posts anyway. Just sayin.

 

[colochine]

Pointless thread.. SD already said it! Oh and I wouldn't buy it coming from a new member with 15 posts anyway. Just sayin.

So ptren is g2g?

 

[cottonmouth]

I ran test p at 700mg/wk, mast p 700mg/wk and ptren for 50 days started at 4mg/day working up to 12mg/day and 16 and 20. I noticed no euphoria or energy. tried different dosing, splitting the dose am and pm, and preworkout. Might have helped a little preworkout could have just been the placebo effect though..

But my friend took it at 4 then 6mg/day and put on a solid 7-8 in a month as a stand alone. I brewed it myself so no chance my friend just short changed me.

I have a lot more but i don't think i will ever use it again., For me 40mg/day of tbol would of blown whatever results i may have gotten from ptren out of the water. I was very disappointed.

 

[spunoutdj]

altrenogest? Interesting theory... @cottonmouth: im glad more people are posting REALIST results. It seems like all the threads ive read are of people claiming this compound does everything short of wiping your ass for you...

I will say this.. My strength is way up. I killed shoulders and tri's today, upping either the weight or reps on every lift. I also must be taking less time between sets bc im finishing quicker than usual. Also, starting to feel the test. I thought i was gonna turn my girl inside out lastnight. My weight has been pretty stable at 199, and my appetite it up. Sweating more, even at work (office job). Excited about deadlifts tomorrow. That should be a real test since ive been at a plateau for a couple of weeks. Stay tuned.

 

[AugustWest]

Pointless thread.. SD already said it! Oh and I wouldn't buy it coming from a new member with 15 posts anyway. Just sayin.

LOL, reading comprehension much? negged for being an idiot

dude isnt selling it, just reviewing. people these days

 

[spunoutdj]

@Tris: Pointless thread? This is a compound with very limited information available. Shouldn't any further testing be encouraged? At the very least, give people considering taking ptren an idea of what to expect?

Anyways, I weighed in at 200 lbs this morning, and despite getting very little sleep had a decent workout! Didn't add any weight to my lifts, but got an extra rep or two here and there. I have been sleeping like shit for the last few days actually. Could be many other factors causing it though, not necessarily ptren. I've been getting harder and harder everyday, and I feel like I just finished lifting throughout the entire day. Also, I havent been sore, which is not common for me. Even If I eat a shit load of food I am usually sore from the previous days routine. Although we'll see how legs goes on tues, maybe I'm speaking too soon.

 

[spunoutdj]

Post from AS2 himself on another board after people questioning the validity of the claims made about ptren.. I'm glad to see him addressing these questions. Thought some of you would be interested...


"Someone just pmed me to take a look at this thread, so here I am.

I actually love this thread. Cynicism about new compounds is very understandable. I look at everything in the aas world with a critical mindset. So I understand.

I have to admit I don't get how that one doc has much relevance though. Baby pigs? Are their endocrine systems even capable of responding to anabolic stimulous at three months old? I just barely skimmed it though - because I already know the truth - so I am sure some one will let me know if I am missing something.

Let me start by throwing this out there. From my limited experience, I think ptren is perhaps the most exiting and best aas I have ever found. It has the strangest set of effects and sides (or lack thereof) of any aas I am aware of. Also the best ratio of desirable to undesirable effects of any aas, with the possible exception of primo and Var if you want to stress the no side effects thing. But those two are much weaker and more limited compounds. I want to prove this, or at least show that this stuff is highly effective, and think I can.

Now let me change gear here real quick. If you think about it, I have no reason to lie. If I never sold this stuff, people would just buy the other aas from me. Anyone who deals with me knows I bend over backwards and work my ass off to establish trust. Why lie and look like a fool or knave? Makes no sense.

As a matter of fact, ptren is the least profitable aas I sell. Why? It is waaaaay too cheap for how far it goes. 85 dollars gives roughly a two year supply - many times that of the other things I sell. That sucks for me from a repeat business standpoint. So, from a financial standpoint I don't mind if no one believes me. Their loss, not mine. (I sell it because people are always gonna want variety and will always buy other stuff, but I still sell it too cheap and know that.)

But I am going to defend OB's log (not that anyone questions it directly, it's just that his log very clearly disagrees with the trend of this thread ? and he is in the right.) And also just get the truth in general out there.

In the long run, I don't need to though. Everything I intend to prove here is going to be common knowledge in time. It's just a matter of time before Geneza will have pills out of this stuff - mark my words. And when something like that happens word will get around fast and ptren will become a favorite. Honestly, that is the way I would like to sell it ? in pill form. I won't even carry methyl-tren, even tough I can, because it's too hard to dose and so too dangerous as a powder for most to deal with. This stuff has low toxicity and is still dosed in milligrams rather than micrograms so I can. BTW, don't ask me about methyl-tren I won't sell it in powder form. I've turned down sales before and will again. If I sold it in powder form, it wouldn't be long before people started showing up in the hospital and give aas a bad name.

I have some things to consider before I move forward, but I have an idea of how to prove the truth about this stuff. It should be interesting for all of us, but I will need some of you guys help.

By the way, I am a researcher and writer. I have written books on aas related subjects and so I'm not really speaking to you guys so much as a merchant, but as a person with a strong opinion on this subject. Not trying to say anyone should listen to me for that reason. Just trying to say that I get in to these sorts of things and am very interested it for it's own sake."

 

[spunoutdj]

Weighed in today at 203 lbs. I also added some peptides into this cycle to stimulate my appetite a little more (Ptren is said to stimulate appetite, I haven't noticed any real difference). I'm still not noticing any of the "energy" some people say ptren offers, although i have noticed some unusual pumps I'm not used to. After squats, I had some intense leg pumps that were almost uncomfortable. It almost felt like a charlie horse, so I assumed that's what it was and ignored it. A few days later, I had a similar feeling after deadlifts. I had crazy back pumps! Maybe the Ptren? My lifts have been steadily going up, and I'm continuing to add reps as well. It's been only 2 weeks, and I am seeing great results. I am convinced ptren is bringing more to the table besides the lifts/pumps in the gym, I just can't put my finger on it! I don't like people saying this compound is bogus, but I agree it is over-sold as something it simply isn't. It is more icing on the cake IMO. I wouldn't expect much from a cycle of ptren alone because of how mild it is. I would love to raise the ptren dose, but I have been warned about the gyno sides at the 10mg /day dosage. I can't quite put my finger on what the exact effects are of ptren... and not the 500mg of test... Cant wait to do more research!

 

[overburdened]

Keep us posted bro.. I'm finding your log very informative

 

[jamesm11]

It has been tested already, it's altrenogest. It isn't a theory, it has been tested and thoroughly discussed here. It exhibits no anabolism and is extremely suppressive.


http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/altrenogest/

 

[overburdened]

It has been tested already, it's altrenogest. It isn't a theory, it has been tested and thoroughly discussed here. It exhibits no anabolism and is extremely suppressive.


Altrenogest - Total Flex Blog

Oh yeah? name the people(not animals) that tested it(in vivo.. this means in your body, not in the lab.. for those that don't understand medical jargon) theirselves, and can show that it had NO anabolic or androgenic effects... I know SEVERAL people that have used it, have had labs drawn, have pictures to prove the results, etc, etc... and from all these people's results, it shows that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about!.. BUT, look at the bright side, you are a mindless sheep, just like most humans(there are some that CAN think for theirselves... but the majority is sheep(kinda like you))

I do applaud your effort at sheepishness.. it shows you will fit in with most of society these days(because God forbid, someone have a thought of their own..). I'm sure this works well for you in everyday life(so more power to you)...

Me... I'll look at the TRUE REAL LIFE results to make my mind up(though I have THOROUGHLY investigated this compound.. prior to running it(which is a lot more than I'm sure you've done.. with ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER RUN) as far as ptren is concerned... and I will have the better physique(while you look like you have never worked out(let alone taken steroids... even though you have taken more aas, that you have NO idea what they are, or will do to you...than most MR OLYMPIAS...)).. Post up pics.. of your PHENOMENAL PHYSIQUE that shows you know ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I'll post up mine.. we'll see who REALLY knows how to build muscle, and a good physique... I can promise you that I look a million times better than you!!!

BTW.. how much do you weigh? BF%, age? height? etc... Post up the truth, with pics to back it up! You look like shit bro! cause you DON'T know what you are doing, what you are talking about, or anything else... BUT.. you can spit garbage shit you found on the internet.. must mean you are smart, and know what the hell you are talking about!

 

[jamesm11]

Oh yeah? name the people(not animals) that tested it(in vivo.. this means in your body, not in the lab.. for those that don't understand medical jargon) theirselves, and can show that it had NO anabolic or androgenic effects... I know SEVERAL people that have used it, have had labs drawn, have pictures to prove the results, etc, etc... and from all these people's results, it shows that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about!.. BUT, look at the bright side, you are a mindless sheep, just like most humans(there are some that CAN think for theirselves... but the majority is sheep(kinda like you))

I do applaud your effort at sheepishness.. it shows you will fit in with most of society these days(because God forbid, someone have a thought of their own..). I'm sure this works well for you in everyday life(so more power to you)...

Me... I'll look at the TRUE REAL LIFE results to make my mind up(though I have THOROUGHLY investigated this compound.. prior to running it(which is a lot more than I'm sure you've done.. with ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER RUN) as far as ptren is concerned... and I will have the better physique(while you look like you have never worked out(let alone taken steroids... even though you have taken more aas, that you have NO idea what they are, or will do to you...than most MR OLYMPIAS...)).. Post up pics.. of your PHENOMENAL PHYSIQUE that shows you know ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I'll post up mine.. we'll see who REALLY knows how to build muscle, and a good physique... I can promise you that I look a million times better than you!!!

BTW.. how much do you weigh? BF%, age? height? etc... Post up the truth, with pics to back it up! You look like shit bro! cause you DON'T know what you are doing, what you are talking about, or anything else... BUT.. you can spit garbage shit you found on the internet.. must mean you are smart, and know what the hell you are talking about!

When people are this defensive it typically means they're hiding stuff. You could be mature and professional, but instead you go off like an idiot because you're upset that the product has been shown to be a completely bunk powder.

This is why I don't use this forum as much, morons like you with no intelligence. Instead you attack me, make assumptions about my life, my physique, my job, and just spew insults. People who do that are unable to reason or argue.

FACTS: This powder was tested, it proved to be altrenogest. Altrenogest likely has no effect on humans other than extreme suppression.

If we ignored animals then why would drugs that affects horses and cows yield similar results in humans? Exactly.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

Oh yeah? name the people(not animals) that tested it(in vivo.. this means in your body, not in the lab.. for those that don't understand medical jargon) theirselves, and can show that it had NO anabolic or androgenic effects... I know SEVERAL people that have used it, have had labs drawn, have pictures to prove the results, etc, etc... and from all these people's results, it shows that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about!.. BUT, look at the bright side, you are a mindless sheep, just like most humans(there are some that CAN think for theirselves... but the majority is sheep(kinda like you))

I do applaud your effort at sheepishness.. it shows you will fit in with most of society these days(because God forbid, someone have a thought of their own..). I'm sure this works well for you in everyday life(so more power to you)...

Me... I'll look at the TRUE REAL LIFE results to make my mind up(though I have THOROUGHLY investigated this compound.. prior to running it(which is a lot more than I'm sure you've done.. with ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER RUN) as far as ptren is concerned... and I will have the better physique(while you look like you have never worked out(let alone taken steroids... even though you have taken more aas, that you have NO idea what they are, or will do to you...than most MR OLYMPIAS...)).. Post up pics.. of your PHENOMENAL PHYSIQUE that shows you know ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I'll post up mine.. we'll see who REALLY knows how to build muscle, and a good physique... I can promise you that I look a million times better than you!!!

BTW.. how much do you weigh? BF%, age? height? etc... Post up the truth, with pics to back it up! You look like shit bro! cause you DON'T know what you are doing, what you are talking about, or anything else... BUT.. you can spit garbage shit you found on the internet.. must mean you are smart, and know what the hell you are talking about!

wow

 

[Standard Donkey]

Oh yeah? name the people(not animals) that tested it(in vivo.. this means in your body, not in the lab.. for those that don't understand medical jargon) theirselves, and can show that it had NO anabolic or androgenic effects... I know SEVERAL people that have used it, have had labs drawn, have pictures to prove the results, etc, etc... and from all these people's results, it shows that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about!.. BUT, look at the bright side, you are a mindless sheep, just like most humans(there are some that CAN think for theirselves... but the majority is sheep(kinda like you))

I do applaud your effort at sheepishness.. it shows you will fit in with most of society these days(because God forbid, someone have a thought of their own..). I'm sure this works well for you in everyday life(so more power to you)...

Me... I'll look at the TRUE REAL LIFE results to make my mind up(though I have THOROUGHLY investigated this compound.. prior to running it(which is a lot more than I'm sure you've done.. with ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER RUN) as far as ptren is concerned... and I will have the better physique(while you look like you have never worked out(let alone taken steroids... even though you have taken more aas, that you have NO idea what they are, or will do to you...than most MR OLYMPIAS...)).. Post up pics.. of your PHENOMENAL PHYSIQUE that shows you know ANYTHING AT ALL!!! I'll post up mine.. we'll see who REALLY knows how to build muscle, and a good physique... I can promise you that I look a million times better than you!!!

BTW.. how much do you weigh? BF%, age? height? etc... Post up the truth, with pics to back it up! You look like shit bro! cause you DON'T know what you are doing, what you are talking about, or anything else... BUT.. you can spit garbage shit you found on the internet.. must mean you are smart, and know what the hell you are talking about!

i hate it when people say this

 

[overburdened]

When people are this defensive it typically means they're hiding stuff. You could be mature and professional, but instead you go off like an idiot because you're upset that the product has been shown to be a completely bunk powder.

This is why I don't use this forum as much, morons like you with no intelligence. Instead you attack me, make assumptions about my life, my physique, my job, and just spew insults. People who do that are unable to reason or argue.

FACTS: This powder was tested, it proved to be altrenogest. Altrenogest likely has no effect on humans other than extreme suppression.

If we ignored animals then why would drugs that affects horses and cows yield similar results in humans? Exactly.

Theres no 'defensive' in this statement I made! It is simply the truth, and you can't handle the truth.. There are plenty of logs of people completely unaffiliated with the sponsor selling this product(this one included) that shows that you are a complete idiot!.. Read this guys log.. he has stated many things he has noticed from it(and some he hasn't noticed, that others said they have)... Go read all the other logs people have done, using ptren(They are on several boards).. then tell me, after PM'ing those people, and asking them if what they said was the truth, or they are just saying it to say it... That it doesn't work....

You read some article on baby pigs and think it applies to humans?!?!? You need to learn to think for yourself! Or continue being a sheep.. one or the other.. but don't come in and tell this guy that is running a log that he is full of shit cause you read something from an animal study, that had nothing to do with bodybuilding...

 

[supaman23]

Even if it has some anabolic properties and positive effects, it clearly doesn't live up to the claims advertised. Plenty of better products out there that can outdo the Ptren.

 

[overburdened]

5lbs in 9 days.. sounds like it is decent to me...

Oh, and I doubt he is holding water(I don't know how he feels about posting pics, but I'm sure if he does, you will see what I already know(from running it myself)), so that is no small feat!....

Supaman..'plenty of better products.. name em.. lets compare sides to benefits.. per dollar/dose...." go ahead... I'll let you start...

 

[AugustWest]

regardless of what you think of ptren, how about a massive LOL at calling overb an unintelligent moron.

 

[jamesm11]

regardless of what you think of ptren, how about a massive LOL at calling overb an unintelligent moron.

Knowledge and intelligence are two separate things. When you immediately verbally bash someone you illustrate a lack of intelligence to reason. So yes. He may have knowledge on things but that doesn't equate intelligence.

And to think the body can add 5lbs of muscle in 9 days is absurd.

 

[supaman23]

5lbs in 9 days.. sounds like it is decent to me...

Oh, and I doubt he is holding water(I don't know how he feels about posting pics, but I'm sure if he does, you will see what I already know(from running it myself)), so that is no small feat!....

Supaman..'plenty of better products.. name em.. lets compare sides to benefits.. per dollar/dose...." go ahead... I'll let you start...

I won't get into this because I haven't run it myself. I was just going on from the few reviews I saw, and most were not very positive. Maybe it's a decent compound, I wouldn't know, but what I know is people will always be dissappointed from a compound that is pimped out to be the next best thing, so even if it is decent , people will still be dissappointed.

What I did try was MDHT though. I was told that it's an amazing product, similar to proviron in positive effects, no sides, but also builds muscle. It gave me lethargy and made me sleep 9+ hours and still be tired all day. I didn't notice much positive effects from it either but I just ran it for a couple of weeks then stopped because of the negative sides.

So I'll stick to my low dose test/primo/tren ace for now. Other compounds that I wanna try in the future and are proven to be effective (probably way better than pTren) are M1T, Superdrol, methylTrienolone. But then again they are a rare find and not sure if they would be as good as the originals.

 

[Goldenera]

I used ptren. I got great energy and euphoria right when I would dose it. I ran it in conjunction with several aas (test,masteron, anavar,proviron ) so it's hard to ascertain what was caused via the ptren other then euphoria and insane night sweats and insomnia for me lol.

I will be running it totally solo in a month or so(ptren). I'll post a link of my thread when I do.

 

[spunoutdj]

205 lbs this morning. I had a few (much needed) days off of work for the holiday and got some rest, so I woke up today ready for business. Put some Slayer on the ipod, and its time to tear shit up. Killed my flat bench and decline, getting some extra reps on both. I also finished a little early again today, so I kept doing additional concentration curls until I had to hit the showers and head to work. By the time I finished my WO, I felt rock solid again, as if i never missed a day (even though sat/sun were rest days). Before I hit the scale, I was a little nervous I had lost weight because even though I ate a shit load of food for thanksgiving, my calorie intake has been relatively low since. To my surprise, I had hit 205lbs. As far as crediting the ptren for my progress, the jury is still out. I will comment on how if ptren is infact altrenogest, and altrenogest is known for extreme supression, i haven't noticed anything. I think taking test with it will counter any supression ptren could potentially have. 500mg/week and I'm doing some serious damage to my girl. Also people have been asking for pics, so im gonna upload one now.

 

[spunoutdj]

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[Goldenera]

Nice log bro. Keep up the good work. Curious what u think of the ptren when the log is all said and done. I'm on the fence if I would run it solo or with a trt dose of test(for testing ptren only. I would run a normal cycle of test . I've heard it elevates test levels but I'd like to see more blood work to see how suppressive it is.

I also found I had a strong alpha libido with test and ptren. Def libido synergy for me.