Need advice on perscribed TRT meds.

[Dr. Griffiths]

Totally against injections, knows nothing about estro related issues? I'd get a second opinion.

He is, his doc referred him to an endo which at least is something as many docs are unwilling to admit they don't know something and won't refer you on.

On the other hand if he admits he doesn't know much about it I would say he shouldn't have started you on the axiron in the first place but should of referred you on straight away.

 

[flagsup]

Spent alot of time talking with new endo., I am having a new panel of test run saturday, with estrogen, igf1, testosterone, prolactin and some others I can't remember. Then he wants me to go off axiron and everything for 4 months to get my baseline before he will work a program up for me. He talked to me about injections and sarms once my tests come back..2 months is my next endo appointment so this sounds alot better then when I talked with my GP...

 

[Dr. Griffiths]

Excellent, keep us updated.

 

[BP2000]

Spent alot of time talking with new endo., I am having a new panel of test run saturday, with estrogen, igf1, testosterone, prolactin and some others I can't remember. Then he wants me to go off axiron and everything for 4 months to get my baseline before he will work a program up for me. He talked to me about injections and sarms once my tests come back..2 months is my next endo appointment so this sounds alot better then when I talked with my GP...

If you are shutdown and come off cold turkey you will feel like crap for 4 month's! What is the point of the come off? You don't have bloodwork prior to TRT? If you do then the doc should try a restart with you HCG/Clomid therapy.

 

[flagsup]

I hear you, I talk to this with my endo, I wonder if I shouldn't do at least some clomid in the meantim mean time. Does anybo does anybody recommend anythi does anybody recommend anything?

 

[allen001]

Spent alot of time talking with new endo., I am having a new panel of test run saturday, with estrogen, igf1, testosterone, prolactin and some others I can't remember. Then he wants me to go off axiron and everything for 4 months to get my baseline before he will work a program up for me. He talked to me about injections and sarms once my tests come back..2 months is my next endo appointment so this sounds alot better then when I talked with my GP...

New panel and tests again....
Are you crazy...

I think you should get a better HRT/TRT solution. Have a blood work
Get some good doc or HRT solution.

 

[flagsup]

The endo I talked to on tuesday seems to have his shit together. He is also a triathalete so is up on research....He does all the research for the spokane area and is the primary trt , hrt endo in eastern washington..He is trying to find somewhere to begin and wonders why my GP started me on axiron without supporting test that we not run the first time..Anyways, had my labs today so should know if the axiron is even working or whats next...I am at a loss so hope this guy really does have his shit together..

 

[flagsup]

well, just got a letter in from my endo. My IGF-1 he says is just below normal, my testosterone is 398, my prolactin is 6.7 which he says is normal. He didn't give me any other results so I will have to call tomorrow to get the rest. He said that the axiron was keeping me in normal range so i can continue that if i want or wait 4 months, stay clean and retest to get baseline before he will work with me. My Test level was 291 before axiron but I have been running formeron with it so that really is not much of an increase to speak highly of. What do you guys think? I am beginning to think that going to the doc is worthless..

 

[plumber68]

I tried to explain about estrogen going up, but of course he denied that it would happen with low dose of Testosterone. He was totally against shots. Suppose to have new labs run 1st of December. The thought of looking at another doctor that understands trt might be my best shot. I just started today with axiron at 60 mg, and formeron at 2 pumps per day. Figured this would suffice for now. Does that sound about right until I can get dr. to change or find a new one?

Of course he is going to deny what he doesn't know because they all want to be the smartest guy in the room. When you do back it up with paperwork, the look on his face will be interesting...good luck

 

[charley]

Spent alot of time talking with new endo., I am having a new panel of test run saturday, with estrogen, igf1, testosterone, prolactin and some others I can't remember. Then he wants me to go off axiron and everything for 4 months to get my baseline before he will work a program up for me. He talked to me about injections and sarms once my tests come back..2 months is my next endo appointment so this sounds alot better then when I talked with my GP...

,,,,,,,My doctor wanted me off for 4 months to test ....I just came back on after 15yrs of test use.....wanted to be legal....4months of feeling sick because no test...now he wants me to wait another 2 months....I'm 63....fugg him ..I'm back on illegal....asshole dr. ...I always buy online..I have a 3yr supply in my house....I suffered for nothing..needless to say..I hate doctors...
.....never gel....shots..once a week..250 mgs..ent...he told me I'm old..it's normal...I repeat,,'I HATE DOCTORS'....

 

[flagsup]

I have been weaning myself off for the last two weeks, not too bad as I don't think my body absorbs the transdermal test that good anyways. I will test in 4 months and see where it all is then and decide where I want to go....I have researched alot and know what I need to do for me.....

 

[flagsup]

Just got my full labs in..Tell me what you all think...
Igf-1. 84 ng/ml 90-360
Prolactin. 6.7 12.6-13
Test. 398. 291-739
Free test. 144.9. 47-244
Bio avail. 322. 130-680
Shbg. 6.9 nmol/l. 11-80
Estadiol. 23 pg/ml. 0-56

This is on axiron with 2 pumps per day of formeron...and still have sum puffiness in my nipples.

 

[allen001]

Just got my full labs in..Tell me what you all think...
Igf-1. 84 ng/ml 90-360
Prolactin. 6.7 12.6-13
Test. 398. 291-739
Free test. 144.9. 47-244
Bio avail. 322. 130-680
Shbg. 6.9 nmol/l. 11-80
Estadiol. 23 pg/ml. 0-56

This is on axiron with 2 pumps per day of formeron...and still have sum puffiness in my nipples.

Hi,

If you found axiron effective then it is nice, but i think you should get better medicine......
still you have puffiness in nipples which need to be cured...

I think changing the treatment would help you..
Think about it

 

[flagsup]

Hi,

If you found axiron effective then it is nice, but i think you should get better medicine......
still you have puffiness in nipples which need to be cured...

I think changing the treatment would help you..
Think about it

Its been over a month since stopping axiron. I felt better off the axiron then on. I decided to run some diesel test hardcore and formasurge to bump my energy up some. My energy is higher than when I was on axiron but still not all there I feel.. My libido is better than when on axiron but could be even better. This confuses me and makes me wonder about TRT...Any suggestions from you guys that have had similiar issues...

 

[oufinny]

Its been over a month since stopping axiron. I felt better off the axiron then on. I decided to run some diesel test hardcore and formasurge to bump my energy up some. My energy is higher than when I was on axiron but still not all there I feel.. My libido is better than when on axiron but could be even better. This confuses me and makes me wonder about TRT...Any suggestions from you guys that have had similiar issues...

First, find a clinic that does nothing but TRT for men and women, get a second opinion with your already done labs. Two, diesel test is a joke so you won't get much from it. The formeron on the other hand will help, apply a pump on your nipples directly it will shrink the puffiness quick (just pump and split it between the two, skin is super thin there so it will soak in well). This whole be off for 4 months is complete bull shit, fuck that guy for making you feel bad just so he can re-evaluate you only to delay again.

 

[flagsup]

First, find a clinic that does nothing but TRT for men and women, get a second opinion with your already done labs. Two, diesel test is a joke so you won't get much from it. The formeron on the other hand will help, apply a pump on your nipples directly it will shrink the puffiness quick (just pump and split it between the two, skin is super thin there so it will soak in well). This whole be off for 4 months is complete bull shit, fuck that guy for making you feel bad just so he can re-evaluate you only to delay again.

Thanks for the advice...This endo that i seen, that is all his clinic does. It's just jumping through bullshit hoops..Do you think DAA would be better than the diesel test? I have deffinately learned alot through all this..

 

[allen001]

Re:

Its been over a month since stopping axiron. I felt better off the axiron then on. I decided to run some diesel test hardcore and formasurge to bump my energy up some. My energy is higher than when I was on axiron but still not all there I feel.. My libido is better than when on axiron but could be even better. This confuses me and makes me wonder about TRT...Any suggestions from you guys that have had similiar issues...

Well exp with axiron was good, but i then turn to herbal treatment with help me. I use HRT pump which help me to fix the issue.

 

[BP2000]

Thanks for the advice...This endo that i seen, that is all his clinic does. It's just jumping through bullshit hoops..Do you think DAA would be better than the diesel test? I have deffinately learned alot through all this..

Try a new doctor. You test went up with the gel you probably just needed more than 2 pumps. If gel doesn't work with higher pumps then go with injections. And DAA and other herbal stuff won't do shit for your T level's. You need to be monitored by a competent doc test, estrogen, all of it. Your T level was 400 on 2 pumps you probably need 3 or 4 pumps to get you to 1000.

 

[flagsup]

My GP won't up my dose because he doesn't want to monitor estrogen, but that is something to check out..I am just gonna have to start looking for a new Trt clinic..one wouldn't think it would be such a pain in the ass.Now i know why guys self administer..

 

[allen001]

Re:

My GP won't up my dose because he doesn't want to monitor estrogen, but that is something to check out..I am just gonna have to start looking for a new Trt clinic..one wouldn't think it would be such a pain in the ass.Now i know why guys self administer..

Now you are on right path my friend. You should get new TRT clinic or treatment. This time monitor the estrogen level and T level's so as to measure the change. Another thing i would like to say, use methods with least or no side effects. I think you should try some new HRT or TRT pump or something like that.

Take care and best of luck

 

[flagsup]

Now you are on right path my friend. You should get new TRT clinic or treatment. This time monitor the estrogen level and T level's so as to measure the change. Another thing i would like to say, use methods with least or no side effects. I think you should try some new HRT or TRT pump or something like that.

Take care and best of luck

Well, it's been almost 2 months since I weaned off of TRT. My energy level is still low, my libido is low and my desire is deffinately down. I push through my workouts but it is not amped up at all. I can still get an erection but orgasm loads are harder to come by and small..I have purchased some forma-stanzol but don't feel too much from it .Still have 2 months to go till my appt with endo. I decided to ride this out with this endo and see what happens in 2 months since I am already in this this far. My insurance is changing so this will give me some slack time. And yes, the diesel test hardcore don't work worth shit...Does anybody have and suggestion on what I can take to get me through to the appt date in 2 months, that I can get off before my labs are run again?

 

[allen001]

Well, it's been almost 2 months since I weaned off of TRT. My energy level is still low, my libido is low and my desire is deffinately down. I push through my workouts but it is not amped up at all. I can still get an erection but orgasm loads are harder to come by and small..I have purchased some forma-stanzol but don't feel too much from it .Still have 2 months to go till my appt with endo. I decided to ride this out with this endo and see what happens in 2 months since I am already in this this far. My insurance is changing so this will give me some slack time. And yes, the diesel test hardcore don't work worth shit...Does anybody have and suggestion on what I can take to get me through to the appt date in 2 months, that I can get off before my labs are run again?

Well my friend the problem is that you are finding it hard to get orgasm, which proves that you have low testosterone. I think using food like oyster or chocolate can help you to boost testosterone as we are what we eat. Eating salmon or tuna can help you to get better T level. As you mention insurance change then i would say that try to get better medicine or things as mention before by time so that you will get good results naturally, and as you get better insurance you can jump to get either better TRT/treatment Or you can solve your issue by using some TRT med or product like androgel 1.62 which can help you to get better "T" level. But don't forget to read the review of it. You need to fix the issue as early as possible and i think you getting better TRT by changing the present med/treatment would be better.

 

[flagsup]

Well my friend the problem is that you are finding it hard to get orgasm, which proves that you have low testosterone. I think using food like oyster or chocolate can help you to boost testosterone as we are what we eat. Eating salmon or tuna can help you to get better T level. As you mention insurance change then i would say that try to get better medicine or things as mention before by time so that you will get good results naturally, and as you get better insurance you can jump to get either better TRT/treatment Or you can solve your issue by using some TRT med or product like androgel 1.62 which can help you to get better "T" level. But don't forget to read the review of it. You need to fix the issue as early as possible and i think you getting better TRT by changing the present med/treatment would be better.

Thanks for all the helpful info. By the time my endo appt on march 27th, my insurance will kick in from my new job so I will have to wait anyways. Right now i am just trying to learn all I can from guys who have gone through the same thing so I know what to address with endo. Been a big help, thanks..

 

[allen001]

Thanks for all the helpful info. By the time my endo appt on march 27th, my insurance will kick in from my new job so I will have to wait anyways. Right now i am just trying to learn all I can from guys who have gone through the same thing so I know what to address with endo. Been a big help, thanks..

I hope best results for you..
Take my advice exercise till your next line of treatment starts. And along with that use better TRT/HRT solution so that you will get better results.


Best of luck and keep us inform

 

[ChiSao]

I take a 500ml. shot of testosterone enanthate from the clinic every week. My lutinizing hormones are below normal range and PSA level is 1.2! Weird what Test can do for you.

 

[flagsup]

It has been almost 4 months like Dr. ordered. The last 4 months have been up and down on energy, my libido is high one minute then crashes next for the next few days then it's back again..My gym energy is nothing to speak of, its a good thing I can force myself..I have tried fadogia and it has helped some but nothing like being on cycle..Not sure where this all is gonna take me but curious if my labs will be any different at all. My appt. with endo is March 27th so we will see if he still gives me the run-a-round. Bullshit if you ask me. This has been one big rollercoaster ride..

 

[BP2000]

that is cruel to make you stop cold turkey. The doc should have at least tried hcg/clomid therapy while waiting. You could have maybe restarted your natural test and see where you are.

 

[allen001]

It has been almost 4 months like Dr. ordered. The last 4 months have been up and down on energy, my libido is high one minute then crashes next for the next few days then it's back again..My gym energy is nothing to speak of, its a good thing I can force myself..I have tried fadogia and it has helped some but nothing like being on cycle..Not sure where this all is gonna take me but curious if my labs will be any different at all. My appt. with endo is March 27th so we will see if he still gives me the run-a-round. Bullshit if you ask me. This has been one big rollercoaster ride..

Well i think you should consult doctor and tell him the up and down's of your T level. I think it would be better if you consults any other doctor who can prescribe you a better med.

Inform us the 27th march appointment results. Waiting ....

 

[BrooklynMuscle]

That is bullshit and I hope you do get it all sorted out. Let us know the progress

 

[flagsup]

that is cruel to make you stop cold turkey. The doc should have at least tried hcg/clomid therapy while waiting. You could have maybe restarted your natural test and see where you are.

I think the whole thing is bullshit..I made it this far and it wasn't fun at all. It's been like draggin my ass for months..The 27th will be my 3rd lab test. I only did it this way to see how they do compare. I have enough info on how this all works now to know what I need to do if the doc don't get on board..will deffinately post results and what doc has to say about it all...