cycle help/opinions

[colorado75]

I am brainstorming on my next cycle that I will be running mid March or so should my BW show ok beforehand. My stats:
37
5'11
191 lbs
10% bf
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I started TRT after my last cycle at 160mg test testosterone cypionate /week (2 x 80 mg per week). I have had low test prior to my first cycle. 2 years ago it was at about 330 (348-1197) and this past september it was 339 and 2 weeks ago it was up to 900. I plan on decreasing my TRT does to 120mg/week as I feel I dont need it to be as high as 160mg/wk.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about the following cutting cycle (this would be my 3rd run on Tren and 1st on EQ)?

Week 1-14: test testosterone propionate / 240mg/week (80mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex / 300mg/week (100mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 390mg/week (130mg M, W, F)
Week 9-14: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 540 mg/week (180mg M, W, F)
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-14: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-14: Aromasin (dosage TBD)

Two additional questions - being on TRT for life, should I substitute some of the test testosterone propionate with test testosterone cypionate so I dont have any issues when I would go back to test testosterone cypionate after the cycle? Seems like there may be a lag time for the test testosterone cypionate to start working again as it is a long ester. Also, would anybody suggest running Primo instead of EQ as my goal is to cut?

Any feedback would be great!

Thanks!

 

[dieseljimmy]

I am brainstorming on my next cycle that I will be running mid March or so should my BW show ok beforehand. My stats:
37
5'11
191 lbs
10% bf
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I started TRT after my last cycle at 160mg testtestosterone cypionate /week (2 x 80 mg per week). I have had low test prior to my first cycle. 2 years ago it was at about 330 (348-1197) and this past september it was 339 and 2 weeks ago it was up to 900. I plan on decreasing my TRT does to 120mg/week as I feel I dont need it to be as high as 160mg/wk.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about the following cutting cycle (this would be my 3rd run on Tren and 1st on EQ)?

Week 1-14: test testosterone propionate / 240mg/week (80mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex / 300mg/week (100mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 390mg/week (130mg M, W, F)
Week 9-14: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 540 mg/week (180mg M, W, F)
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-14: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-14: Aromasin (dosage TBD)

Two additional questions - being on TRT for life, should I substitute some of the test testosterone propionate with test testosterone cypionate so I dont have any issues when I would go back to test testosterone cypionate after the cycle? Seems like there may be a lag time for the test testosterone cypionate to start working again as it is a long ester. Also, would anybody suggest running Primo instead of EQ as my goal is to cut?

Any feedback would be great!

Thanks!

not a huge fan of your cycle because of my own personal predisposition to disliking EQ. But that means nothing really I would keep the cyp in as prescribed by your doc. You will have a lag otherwise at the end if this cycle or add in a shot of cyp the last couple of weeks of this proposed cycle.
and I would take primo over EQ pretty much anyday. I personally think anything under 400 mg of either EQ or primo is not worth it.

 

[cottonmouth]

Continue the test c, and I would just keep the test c at 160mg/wk throughout, and not substitute the prop for it. I mean the point is to keep as much muscle as possible during a cut and more test definitely wouldn't hurt.

I'm running EQ now and love it so far, I would just keep it at 540mg/wk throughout. The 390 seems a bit low. But other than that it looks OK,, cabar at .5mg/e3d should be more than enough. Should be a pretty good cycle.

 

[Sherk]

I am brainstorming on my next cycle that I will be running mid March or so should my BW show ok beforehand. My stats:
37
5'11
191 lbs
10% bf
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I started TRT after my last cycle at 160mg test testosterone cypionate /week (2 x 80 mg per week). I have had low test prior to my first cycle. 2 years ago it was at about 330 (348-1197) and this past september it was 339 and 2 weeks ago it was up to 900. I plan on decreasing my TRT does to 120mg/week as I feel I dont need it to be as high as 160mg/wk.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about the following cutting cycle (this would be my 3rd run on Tren and 1st on EQ)?

Week 1-14: test testosterone propionate / 240mg/week (80mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex / 300mg/week (100mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 390mg/week (130mg M, W, F)
Week 9-14: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 540 mg/week (180mg M, W, F)
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-14: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-14: Aromasin (dosage TBD)

Two additional questions - being on TRT for life, should I substitute some of the test testosterone propionate with test testosterone cypionate so I dont have any issues when I would go back to test testosterone cypionate after the cycle? Seems like there may be a lag time for the test testosterone cypionate to start working again as it is a long ester. Also, would anybody suggest running Primo instead of EQ as my goal is to cut?

Any feedback would be great!

Thanks!

Here's my thoughts on this. For me since I'm on trt I just stick to test c or e for all cycles. Test is already in your system so now you just have to adjust the dosage. If you stay with prop don't worry about your trt dose. If you plan on running say 350mg prop then run that and don't factor in you trt. Now the eq. Why are you running low on the eq then bumping it up? Eq is great IMO especially at higher doses, say 6-800mg. You'll get more out of it IMO. When I run tren, I like to run it 2-1 tren test ratio. For instance I'm currently on 800mg tren e and 400mg test c. Tren and test will fight for the same androgen receptors so I give my body more of the tren and just use test as a base. I've had better success with that than at equal ratios and have had little to no sides either. But to each their own and everyone reacts differently. Your cycle looks good but those are just my .2.


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[colorado75]

not a huge fan of your cycle because of my own personal predisposition to disliking EQ. But that means nothing really I would keep the cyp in as prescribed by your doc. You will have a lag otherwise at the end if this cycle or add in a shot of cyp the last couple of weeks of this proposed cycle.
and I would take primo over EQ pretty much anyday. I personally think anything under 400 mg of either EQ or primo is not worth it.

Hi Again -
seriously thinking about Primobolan - methenolone - instead of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ....if Primobolan - methenolone - I would do:

Week 1-16: test testosterone cypionate / 80mg EOD
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex or E / 100 EOD
Week 1-16: Primobolan - methenolone - / 200mg EOD
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-16: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-16: Aromasin (dosage TBD)


My main goal is cutting and sustainable muscle (not just appearance of looking much better while on cycle) -- cliche these days I realize - but I don't compete just like looking and feeling better. I will be doing more cross fit during this cycle as well. You think Primobolan - methenolone - would suit my goals better? The reason I would pick Primobolan - methenolone - is less chance of risky blood numbers and....reason I wouldn't is fear of effects on hairline....trenbolone doesnt seem to hurt my hairline...my hair seemed to stop growing while on Mast....fear of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is the anxiety some seem to get on it but it sounds appealing bc of enhanced cardio/endurance. Thoughts?

 

[colorado75]

Continue the test c, and I would just keep the test c at 160mg/wk throughout, and not substitute the prop for it. I mean the point is to keep as much muscle as possible during a cut and more test definitely wouldn't hurt.

I'm running EQ now and love it so far, I would just keep it at 540mg/wk throughout. The 390 seems a bit low. But other than that it looks OK,, cabar at .5mg/e3d should be more than enough. Should be a pretty good cycle.

what are your thoughts on Primo instead of EQ? reasoning above? Also, are you suggesting to add test prop to my test cyp? Ie: Week 1-16 160mg test cyp and 140 test prop?

 

[colorado75]

Here's my thoughts on this. For me since I'm on trt I just stick to test c or e for all cycles. Test is already in your system so now you just have to adjust the dosage. If you stay with prop don't worry about your trt dose. If you plan on running say 350mg prop then run that and don't factor in you trt. Now the eq. Why are you running low on the eq then bumping it up? Eq is great IMO especially at higher doses, say 6-800mg. You'll get more out of it IMO. When I run tren, I like to run it 2-1 tren test ratio. For instance I'm currently on 800mg tren e and 400mg test c. Tren and test will fight for the same androgen receptors so I give my body more of the tren and just use test as a base. I've had better success with that than at equal ratios and have had little to no sides either. But to each their own and everyone reacts differently. Your cycle looks good but those are just my .2.


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Thanks for the reply Sherk! Appreciated! So would you say to run my test cup as HRT normal and then add additional Test prop as well? if I run 400 tren, would a difference in adding 40mg test prop do much? or should I just increase test cyp to 200mg? Did you get any anxiety from EQ? Thoughts on running primo instead of eq for cutting?

 

[Sherk]

You don't need to pinn long esters so often. Just pinn your tren e and test c twice a week aposed to eod. If you were on tren a I'd say eod or ed but not hex or e. if it were me I'd run it like this:
Tren e 300mg mon and 300mg thur
Test c 150mg mon and 150mg thur
Forget about your trt dose while on cycle. I can't speak on primo because I've never ran it. I've never had any issues while on eq.


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