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Exactly. We dont care about his quality or prices because hes a liar.
I'm gone for a few months, glad to see the same topics, feels like coming back home.independent
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+1 818-597-3901 call them.
Its $64.65 for 10ml vial of depo test. They gave me 5.00 off for being in their pharmacy plan.
I called for mike arnold because he cant dial a phone.
Subbed for his next novel.
Its $64.65 for 10ml vial of depo test. They gave me 5.00 off for being in their pharmacy plan.
I called for mike arnold because he cant dial a phone.
Subbed for his next novel.
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Here we go again.
UGL prices: UGLs pay for way more than you or your bro at the gym brewing up a batch. SOURCES: Mine is great, reliable, and i am his number one customer he bends over backwards to kewp us gloriously overjoyed with his product - and he has mass spec. Tested and proved anavar and primo. Does some no one buying 300grams have any pull with him? CUSTOMS: we assume the risk of importing kilos at a time. We lose a shipment it is thousands and thousands of dollars gone. EXPERIENCE: my CHEMIST YES HE IS A CHEMIST WITH A DEGREE Has seven years of AAS producing experience. RISK: What is the consumer risking it his pack gets seized? I hope it is known what we face distributing class III substances. ADVERTISING: SHIT AINT heap yo. TIME: Even smaller UGLS like mine is the equivallent of five or six full time employees working well over forty hours a week. RESHIPPING: IF the error is mine I reship the.entire order free. WP RESHIPS ALL SEIZED PACKS. DO YOU THINK THAT IA CHEAP? CAPTIAL: Have any clue how much capital it takes to build up a 30 item list with most things always in stock? LOGISTICS: WE HAVE to be ready to close and be gone no trade in less than 24 hours can you do that? Can a home brewer do that? CASH LOGISTICS. Do you know how to rransact thousands of anonymous dollars? Lol figure out an easy way and you are mother fucking hired.
Comparing the cost of brewing the most amazing immaculate batch of homebrew to RU.Kong an actual AAS distribution business is a goddamn joke.
You dont like the Price? Awesome. Shut the fuck up and don't buy any. I don't drive a jag. You can't use my test. Get over it.
And picking a fight with OD who I have NEVER een flame anyone and clearly states he has no bone to pick is pretty fucking low too.
Shame on you silly whine baby.g
Here we go again.
UGL prices: UGLs pay for way more than you or your bro at the gym brewing up a batch. SOURCES: Mine is great, reliable, and i am his number one customer he bends over backwards to kewp us gloriously overjoyed with his product - and he has mass spec. Tested and proved anavar and primo. Does some no one buying 300grams have any pull with him? CUSTOMS: we assume the risk of importing kilos at a time. We lose a shipment it is thousands and thousands of dollars gone. EXPERIENCE: my CHEMIST YES HE IS A CHEMIST WITH A DEGREE Has seven years of AAS producing experience. RISK: What is the consumer risking it his pack gets seized? I hope it is known what we face distributing class III substances. ADVERTISING: SHIT AINT heap yo. TIME: Even smaller UGLS like mine is the equivallent of five or six full time employees working well over forty hours a week. RESHIPPING: IF the error is mine I reship the.entire order free. WP RESHIPS ALL SEIZED PACKS. DO YOU THINK THAT IA CHEAP? CAPTIAL: Have any clue how much capital it takes to build up a 30 item list with most things always in stock? LOGISTICS: WE HAVE to be ready to close and be gone no trade in less than 24 hours can you do that? Can a home brewer do that? CASH LOGISTICS. Do you know how to rransact thousands of anonymous dollars? Lol figure out an easy way and you are mother fucking hired.
Comparing the cost of brewing the most amazing immaculate batch of homebrew to RU.Kong an actual AAS distribution business is a goddamn joke.
You dont like the Price? Awesome. Shut the fuck up and don't buy any. I don't drive a jag. You can't use my test. Get over it.
And picking a fight with OD who I have NEVER een flame anyone and clearly states he has no bone to pick is pretty fucking low too.
Shame on you silly whine baby.g
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Negged for being a whiney drug dealer.
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don't be swayed by the bullshit scare tactics that WP is for some reason allowed to pull around here
go with UGL or crash your natural production and get a script from your doc
Can you explain this process? Wouldn't the endocrinologist be suspicious of the lh & fsh being extremely low?
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Euroking, first of all, not 90% raw material is produces in China.
Second, you can not buy legaly raw material in China for anabolic steroids, what you have is illegal trades that sell Chinese home made powders by grams, quality is poor.
Guy like you ( Euroking) - buy from Alibaba cheapest powders, import to Turkey (Turkey is not Europe BTW, I don't know what you nickname is Euroking, reason is Euro sound better for selling pharmaceuticals), payoff Turkish customs offitial and bring home.
In your bedroom in Turkey you have no option to lab test your powders, so just you take a word from Chines supplier and make vials at you best. That is why you can offer vial for 50$ and still profit 44$.
Saying AP is UG because is it not made in Europe or USA and was not EU or US FDA approved is Childish. Turkey FDA is for me same as Thailand FDA where AP products are legally imported to and registered. I am sure you checked in past on Thai FDA website.
AP prices are higher because those products are produced in GMP factory in India with all licenses. Prices are higher as volume for transport of finishing products is much higher than as in UG option just powders.
legal production is not cheap and that is why end product prices are higher that UGL shit you are pushing.
Go to real pharmacy in Turkey ( for a change) and ask price for Primobolan, it is 8 liras something for 1 ml amp, that is 4 Euros or 6 US$ in pharmacy, here you have reference for prices.
Second, you can not buy legaly raw material in China for anabolic steroids, what you have is illegal trades that sell Chinese home made powders by grams, quality is poor.
Guy like you ( Euroking) - buy from Alibaba cheapest powders, import to Turkey (Turkey is not Europe BTW, I don't know what you nickname is Euroking, reason is Euro sound better for selling pharmaceuticals), payoff Turkish customs offitial and bring home.
In your bedroom in Turkey you have no option to lab test your powders, so just you take a word from Chines supplier and make vials at you best. That is why you can offer vial for 50$ and still profit 44$.
Saying AP is UG because is it not made in Europe or USA and was not EU or US FDA approved is Childish. Turkey FDA is for me same as Thailand FDA where AP products are legally imported to and registered. I am sure you checked in past on Thai FDA website.
AP prices are higher because those products are produced in GMP factory in India with all licenses. Prices are higher as volume for transport of finishing products is much higher than as in UG option just powders.
legal production is not cheap and that is why end product prices are higher that UGL shit you are pushing.
Go to real pharmacy in Turkey ( for a change) and ask price for Primobolan, it is 8 liras something for 1 ml amp, that is 4 Euros or 6 US$ in pharmacy, here you have reference for prices.
In over 2 years I've never seen issues with sterility of any UGLs from IM, but I have seen issues with dosages.
WP has never had complaints on underdosed gear that I have seen. TD is always pretty damn quick as well. Some might see that as value worth paying for.
Personally I have never used sponsors gear, and only pay less than $20 for test (in bulk) and its always been dosed properly
WP has never had complaints on underdosed gear that I have seen. TD is always pretty damn quick as well. Some might see that as value worth paying for.
Personally I have never used sponsors gear, and only pay less than $20 for test (in bulk) and its always been dosed properly
Again you dont know what you are talking about
FDA Approved medical compay should have a contact adres in a country where they are licensed right? like balkan pharma! there you can and visit their factory and main office but asia pharma aka british dragon is nowhere to find them
and how do you know that we cant test powders? you think its only ugl like asia pharma who can do that?
and you are talking about shipping is the reason for high prices? remember you got into the prices not me
dont come and tell me that shipping is the reason for asia pharma prices because that is bullshit
FDA Approved medical compay should have a contact adres in a country where they are licensed right? like balkan pharma! there you can and visit their factory and main office but asia pharma aka british dragon is nowhere to find them
and how do you know that we cant test powders? you think its only ugl like asia pharma who can do that?
and you are talking about shipping is the reason for high prices? remember you got into the prices not me
dont come and tell me that shipping is the reason for asia pharma prices because that is bullshit
Want to see a real approved company
Balkan pharmaceuticals | Distributors
Can you tell me why Asia pharma aka british dragon isnt posting their office and factory adres?
cant you see the issue here with you if you cant then there is something wrong
give me evidence that asia pharma aka british dragon is a real medical factory give me their adres where they produce and where their office is and ill have it check it
Balkan pharmaceuticals | Distributors
Can you tell me why Asia pharma aka british dragon isnt posting their office and factory adres?
cant you see the issue here with you if you cant then there is something wrong
give me evidence that asia pharma aka british dragon is a real medical factory give me their adres where they produce and where their office is and ill have it check it
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Lets take a look at it then.
1. Raw material- where do they get there raws? I would guess a factory in china or one similar unless your saying they manufacture thier own raws inwhich case it should be even cheaper cause they dont have to reach a profit of just raws like other factories- and there is no proof out there that the raws that they use are of any better quality than ugl- so not sure where the cost difference comes there especially since they more than likely buy in bigger amounts than the UGLS. Meaning they would pay less.
Where does WHO gets their raws? Bro...I can't continue to do this. Am I am now supposed to guess who you are referring to?(just follow along who are we talking about? WP UGL and UGLs! Thought you were smart.This topic was beaten to death. (Cause you dont understand business and cost of doing it unfortunately) The bottom line is that finished UGL products cost less to produce than finished pharmaceutical/GMP products....end of story. (Yes exactly finally and what Bigmoe is comparing is what it cost himm to buy his GMP USA FDA gears whish is less than 150 dollars a bottle shit even you state you get it for 95) You are now going off into an entirely different topic, which I don't have the time or patenece for anymore(you really cant follow your own topic sad) (not to mention the question has already been answered), especially being that there has been no challenege. (are you completely dense we multiple people have tried to explain this to you and you have not answered it) Its old..its boring...move on and let the members decide for themslves based on what was already written. God knows they have read plenty from both of us.
2 Manufacturing process- They have a building, employees and really expensive equipment(supposedly)- This is the only difference between UGL and UGL WP-
Yes, pharmacuetical companies have the ABILITY to produce drugs which are gauaranteed to be both pure & potent...UGL's do not. What's your point? You do know that WP sells many "pharmacy-grade" drugs, right (Schering primo is one example)? WP is tehnically a UGL...the operation itself is, but their products aren't. They sell many products sourced directly from pharmacuetical companies, as well as other non-pharmacy products made under GMP guidelines. In the old days, all UGL's sold products diverted directly from pharmacies...prior to the laws getting harsh and the goverment cracking down on it. Today it is different, with most UGL sourcing their raw materials from China (everyon gets there raws from china!!!! name a company that makes its own raws?. So, whether a comopny is a UGL or not doesn't really matter. Today, few UGL's sell only pharm-grade/GMP made products. WP is one of them.--- again your post shows that you completely missed the point so let me spell it out for you again....
WP sells his gear for more than it is worth and not because of cost of production but because he wants more money. This is the point that is it that is what bigmoe myself and any one else that aposed your view was saying.
but the problem with this arguement is that Real FDA approved gear in the good ol US of A cost less tha 150 dollars a 10ml vial
I think you're mising the bigger picture. You need to READ my prior post which talks about the price of American steroids...not just testosterone. It's true that most American pharms sell a 10 ml vial of test for between $100-$130, while WP sells it for around $70-$80(wrong check the site 150dollars- no ones talking about his supposed deals sales by definition are temporary we can only compare listed price)...but when it comes to all the many other steroids BB'r use, American pharm-grade steroids are incredibly expensive. Anadrol is $20 per pill...Deca & Winstrol cost hundreds of dollars for a single 10 ml vial. Anavar costs many hundreds for 500 mg. Halotestin is atrocious. I won't go any further, because it doesn't get any better. There is no doubt at all that American gear is WAY more expensive than WP gear- all the latter drugs that you mention are almost impossible to get a script for so now your trying to compare apples to oranges cause its reall not that feesible to go to a pharmacy in the us and buy drols there for there is much less available so when comparing two with the same availability some how the US cost less HMMMM
and they have this exact same over head. and higher paid employees MUCH higher and higher cost of rent elctricity ECT.
Like I said, the question of finished cost has already been answered, making this a pointless question. You are still trying to argue a point which already been put to bed. I guess we could use the following anaolgy to describe your reluctance to admit defeat. I say the sky is blue...you say it is red....then we both look up and see that the sky is blue...the question has been answered...but you continue to argue that the sky is red because of atmospheric pollution. Doesn't make much sense, does it? So stop doing it. Man how do people respect you when you cant grasp simple concepts like why what cost what. I have already stated why your wrong here and you just dont understand. If you compare one gmp to another we'll call the first one "US"
and the second one "AP" well US has a higher cost of production and over head but AP products cost more to buy what is the explanation.....Greed
3 profit margin- I would wager a good amount that WP has alotted for a much greater profit margin......the reason why EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS ON SALE
Every AAS company has a high profit margin. (exactly so why is he so greedy than his margin obvioulsy has to be higher than that of american pharmacutical companies cause as i explained his over head is less and his products cost more)These guys are trying to make a "profit" after all...LOL. I mean, we already determined that WP gear only costs about $70-$80 per vial(false this is a sale his cost 150 dollars), while the typical UGl vial is between $40-$50. The difference is relatively small...certainly small enough to justify the slightly greater cost when we consider that pharmacy-grade/GMP gear COSTS more.(again we are comparing it to a us gmp fda so it does not cost more it cost less
So please where is the cost difference again?????? I hope you know more about steroids than business.
Hhahahahahahaha. I also answered this question IN DEPTH in a previous post. Can your new screen name be "wall"? I'm out...I have to pick up my daughter.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!
Look, if you continue IGNORING most of the points I make, there can't be any further duscussion. 90% of what you said here was previously addressed, yet you either didn't read all my posts...or you are playing a game. I will also state that you have brought several new arguments to the forefront over the last 2 pages of text....many of which I never took issue with. Initially, we were dicussing a couple of very pointed questions, but you have now branched so far out, that I truly am not even sure what you'e trying to get at anymore. The main thing I see you trying to say now is you think WP charges too much, but this was not what we were duscussing originally...somewhow you got away from the original point and started gradually bringing other issues into the conversation.
So, if you would like to continue, we need to do it more efficiently and get on the same page. Tell me EXACTLY what you take issue with. List them out...and I will tell what I disagree with and why....because a this point, you have made a LOT of assumptions about what I think or feel...things I have never stated of inferred. Intially , I posted in this thread for one purpose....to point out the differences in manufacturirng/purchase costs between pharm-grade/GMP gear and low-qaulity chinese raws. At this point, I need to know that we're both actually on the same page....because we are clearly both going in different directions. I don't think a single topic ever got fully addressed before a new topic was brought into the picture...and it continues to hapoen over and over again. An argument gets bogged down and uncler when this begins to happen. Too much has been ignored (or not read) and quite frankly, we need to start fresh, with a clear pciture of what the real debate actually is. If you can do that...and STICK with each topic until it is DONE, then we can proceed. If you want to tackle a dozen different topics...fine...we can do so, but one at a time. It is not a smart move to argue 10 different things at once, while skipping all over the place and ignoring relevant responses.
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I am glad you posted this....because it shows how many different directions this thread is being pulled at once. You say no one cares about his prices or quality, but 3/4 of this thread was ALL about that topic, which skinny guy continues to harp on. Then we have you and EK are calling him a liar and saying his products are not legit. Of course, you are free to have your opinion on the matter and by all means, please post up any info confirming this belief, but regardless, we need to consolidate this thread and get it back on track. Everyone is arguing different shit and I bet many guys got lost in the shuffle a while back.
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Bro...this is now the 3rd time I have answered you on this. If you refuse to read my responses to your question, what else can I do? I acknowledged MULTIPLE times that you do get it for that cheap, but I also stated that this price does not reflect the average price for an american made vial of pharmacy grade test....and it certainly does NOT represent the average price of the rest of our American made steroids. Costco, much like WalMart, runs a special program, where they sell their testostrone for less than every other pharma in America. Walmart does the same with insulin. Every pharm in American seels slin foir about $50-$60 now, but WM only charges $24! That is much lower than everyone else...a special program for insulin users. It is the same with your $60 Phizer test. Understand? Now, this is great for the customer, but you can't say that it accurately reflects the price of American pharma-grade gear in general....because it certainly does not. Americvan made phama gear costs WAY more than WP. Just Anadrol alone is $20 per pill! Other steroids, like Deca, Winstrol, Halotestin, etc....all cost a fortune!
So, please go back and read the response I posted for you, which talks all about this. You have tried to use this single, unordinary example as a basis for stating that American pharm-grade gear costs less than WP gear, when that statment is way, way off base...just completely untrue. Sure, WP sells his test for about $70-$80 on average with a sale price (which is basically always available)...and your $60 is a bit cheaper than his. It is a great deal, but wholly utypical of the general comparison. If you compare the cost of EVERY single America-made steroid sold in our pharmacies (aside from your special deal), they all cost way, ay more than whhat WP charges. It would cost you $1,000 just to buy 50 tabs of Anadrol from an American pharmacy...do you realize that? Do you realize Deca is a few hundred dollars per vial...and Anavar costs many hundred dollars for only 500 mg? It is the same with Winstrol, halotestin, and evertvother AAS...they all cost hundreds of dollars for a single vials of a small amount of pills.
Look, in your original statement, you said that WP costs more than American made gear...and you based this blanket statemnt off of a single vial of special program testosterone. As you can now see (even though I am now saying this twice), that statment is 100% wrong! It only...and I mean ONLY applies to that single Costco product...NOTHING else....not by a long shot.
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Awesome post.
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Serioulsy, guy...WTF is wrong with you? Is this really how you're going to debate? If so, just stop now. She puts up a well thouht out, informative post and you have no response (like a lot of dumabasses in this thread) to anything she has said, aside from calling her a whinny drug dealer? You sound like a fucking jackass...a stupid MF'r who has nothing to say because he doesn't know shit...so you just sit back throwing stones. GTFO!
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Yes, it is...and wholly untypical of the average cost for a vial of phizer test cyp, nationwide.60 bucks for Pfizer is a great deal
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Thank you.
Somehow, there are still guys in this thread arguing that it doesn't cost any more money to manufacture pharm-grade/GMP gear, than it does to make gear from low-quality improted chinese powders. I mean, who really fucking believes that the products that WP buys from various pharmacies costs him less than it would to make AAS with cheap chinese powders? Only a dumbas. I am glad you mentioned the Primo, which WP sells. It is as legit as it gets, 100% pharm-grade...and it costs a lot more for WP to purchase, than it would to buy some primo raws from a Chinese manufacurer. All these guys have to do is look on WP's site and they will see a bunch of products which were made at various pharmacies around the world...then purchased by WP and imported inro his shop.
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Thread should be closed now ! Good read , I for one am more of a reader than a poster if more people would do this it would prevent worthless info on the borads .
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great posts and i am sure everybody who is smart and not stupid kid will understand what guys say and post...GREAT POSTS! all 100% true!
WP gear is way still cheaper than most black market gear in Australia.
If WP could find a way to beat customs, he'd become a very rich man
If WP could find a way to beat customs, he'd become a very rich man
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Know how else I know you're gay?
You got your feelings hurt on the internet. That makes you the "dumb cunt." Not to mention negging? That is not an activity real men participate in. I suggest you spend more time in the gym and less time announcing you're too broke too afford good gear
Shit boy you did give me a good laugh at least.
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WP gear is way still cheaper than most black market gear in Australia.
If WP could find a way to beat customs, he'd become a very rich man
i have some customers there and i deliver ok! amps (Sustanon 250) always come safe and anti E too!
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Know how else I know you're gay?
You got your feelings hurt on the internet. That makes you the "dumb cunt." Not to mention negging? That is not an activity real men participate in. I suggest you spend more time in the gym and less time announcing you're too broke too afford good gear
Shit boy you did give me a good laugh at least.
This is coming from a man pretending to be a woman.
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Good for you WP - I can't get a damn thing through
Thinsg are very rough in Aus...I feel for you.
