Average test levels for a 25yr old

[chocolatemalt]

Yes, I do aromatize very bad. I've started taking Letro on cycle and am having none of the typical letro sides. Although, it could just be bunk. A bit early to tell yet.

There's a LOT of bunk letro out there, beware. Many threads about it. I got stung by some MP Research "letro" several months ago with no effect whatsoever and switched to Aromasin which worked nicely.

 

[hoyle21]

There's a LOT of bunk letro out there, beware. Many threads about it. I got stung by some MP Research "letro" several months ago with no effect whatsoever and switched to Aromasin which worked nicely.

Yeah I'm sure. Anyone know of a legit place to buy pharm grade letro feel free to PM me.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I'm going to disagree with a bit here from my own personal experience. I've been taking 200 mgs test cyp per week as part of a TRT program with my doctor. I have yet to test over 500 when blood work comes back

In your case, we would need to know WHEN your bloodwork was done before this statemnet carries any weight. Why? I could inject 2 grams of test and my bloodwork could come back at 100 ng/dl....3 weeks later!

I was referring to the peak reading obtained when getting bloodwork. Obviously, when injecting any ester, T levels rise and fall with the curve of the ester...so WHEN someone is tested make all the difference in the world as far as T levels go. Normally, a 200 mg inject of testosterone will raise someones T levels either into the very upper levels or beyond, but they won't be maintained permanently. So, if you injected 200 mg and had your T levels tested one week later, 500 ng/dl sounds pretty normal...but if you were to have your levels tested 2 days after that 200 mg inject, it would be a different story.


For example, about 10 years ago when I was on-cycle, I was injecting 200-250 mg 2x per week....and a full 9 days after my last inject, my levels were still testing out at over 900 ng/dl. Obvously, I was injecting at least double the amount of Test you were ona weekly basis...yet my levels were only 900 a bit over a week after my last inject. Now, if I had my levels tested 2 days after my last inject, they probably would have been about 1,500-2000 ng/dl.

Lastly, there is a very small segment of people, for reasons still unknown, which don't seem to respond to certain forms of testosterone...particularly certain esters. I recently saw the bloodwork from one individual who was using 300 mg of pharm grade test enth, yet he tested at less than 400 ng/dl 3 days later. His previous natural T level was slightly under 300 ng/dl. This is VERY abnormal and a problem which is just now starting to become known. Still, it is almost assuredly very rare.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Are you getting the blood drawn the day of the shot, or the next day? If the same day, I'd expect the readings to be at half of the peak level since test cyp has about a week's half life. I.e. the 200mg pin puts you at 900-1000 ng/ml the following day (ramping up over the previous 24 hrs), but will be down to 500 again a week later.

Many clinical trials do this sort of "low point" monitoring since it's just easier to schedule the blood draws and fresh pins on the same day. I wouldn't be surprised if your doc made the same decision.

Exactly....you said in 2 sentences what took me 4 paragraphs.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I assumed everyones body processes the test differently knowing that some guys use that dose as their TRT. Guess I was wrong there.

Yes, everybody will metabolise drugs at different rates, but in the very large majority of cases, a 200 mg inject of test is going to put most people in roughy the same range when starting from the same baseline. It varries a bit, but most people are pretty close.

 

[hoyle21]

Mike Arnold- I posted my schedule. I inject on Saturday and have bloods drawn on Monday. So there is a two day difference between injection and taking bloods.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Mike Arnold- I posted my schedule. I inject on Saturday and have bloods drawn on Monday. So there is a two day difference between injection and taking bloods.

I saw...see my post above yours (post #35).

 

[s2h]

I'm going to disagree with a bit here from my own personal experience. I've been taking 200 mgs test cyp per week as part of a TRT program with my doctor. I have yet to test over 500 when blood work comes back

there are many hormonal factors that can lead to lower test levels while on trt..you may want to talk to your doctor about taking a deeper look into your labs past just estrogen...500ng/dl is far to low for 200mgs ew of test with blood drawn 2 days after injection..

 

[Mike Arnold]

there are many hormonal factors that can lead to lower test levels while on trt..you may want to talk to your doctor about taking a deeper look into your labs past just estrogen...500ng/dl is far to low for 200mgs ew of test with blood drawn 2 days after injection..

Yep.

 

[malfeasance]

yes you are reading the chart incorrectly. 95th percentile means the top 5 percent. You are looking for the average but none of this matters if you dont have anything to compare to?

My post quite clearly states the "top 5%."