OldSchoolLifter
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You can't buy novalog over the counter. Only long acting without a script.
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Safest Type of Insulin?
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cerberus16sk
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im going back to exchange it for novalin r
between my pm's, Mike Arnold's comments, and the reading he has supposedly done, Op should know all that he needs to know about slin.. he's basically just looking for attention at this point
guess not...
between my pm's, Mike Arnold's comments, and the reading he has supposedly done, Op should know all that he needs to know about slin.. he's basically just looking for attention at this point
Mike? did you tell him to get all this garbage? Just curious because this does not sound like your protocol...
All you need is this I will help you out. It was everything I needed..
Karbolyn
BCAA
Creatine Mono
Regular Whey Iso (i dont buy into hydro whey)
Gluco meter
Take blood sugar level to get baseline
Inject slin
drink protein
take BS again
Sip on 50g of karbolyn for 10 mins or so.
Go to the gym
intra workout
50mg karbalyn
50g whey
take BS (yes in the gym, go to the rest room)
(i would keep rice cakes on hand just to fill my stomach up)
PWO
take BS again
50g whey
if BS is low sip on Karbolyn
6iu hgh
then eat the rest of your meals every two hours.
Eating frozen barritos, drinking all that milk, and sugar is just going to make you fat.
just sip on your carb drink to, i had better results sipping on it then slamming it my BS would drop low and if i slammed it it would get jacked high this is why data logging your BS is very important so you see how your body reacts to the slin. With out a meter its like trying to tune a fuel injected car without a dyno. I also would not run slin with out HGH,
Standard Donkey
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I wouldn't waste any more time on this idiot.. he's asking questions, and not listening to any of the answers that anyone is giving him. with what he has laid out, he won't die, but he will definitely get very fat.. I say let him
cerberus16sk
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ignore standard donkey.. he just started being an asshole for no reason. if you dont want to help get the fuck outI wouldn't waste any more time on this idiot.. he's asking questions, and not listening to any of the answers that anyone is giving him. with what he has laid out, he won't die, but he will definitely get very fat.. I say let him
cerberus16sk
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thanks for the tips jay.. looks like im gonna have to wait for my next paycheck and drop $30 on a glucose meter. i realize i dont have all absolute best but will my regular carb powder work for the time being?
cerberus16sk
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can i use the carbs i bought instead of the brand you reccomend? if you dont want me to drink it with milk what do you want me to drink it with? also how many iu of slin for the 50g whey and carbs you are having, 6? is it the regular novalin r type that i have? how long after the shot till it's over? 8 hours? i really would like to know some details.. people are saying im going to get fat from drinking milk but nobody said what to put in the shakes instead.. water or juice?? please stop with the cookie cutter replies because its not answering my questions. i know you are trying to help though and you are but i really would like to know what im doing wrong since im apparently going to get fat.. and its important for me to know if i can replace your top of the line carbs and protein with more basic sources. this is not rocket science but i do need some precise answers and not just the basics over and over. so far jay this is the best advice i've gotten. thank you
OldSchoolLifter
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Okay I cant take it anymore. I apologize in advance, this may sound harsh but at this point its needed.
Jay was kind enough to go through pretty much everything you need to know to get you started correctly, Yet you reply stating you need more specifics, and that his response was cookie cutter. Well it is, and ill explain why. Unlike AAS, slin affects every person that uses it completely different, so cookie cutter advice is given to ensure your optimal safety as you learn how you react and adjust accordingly. AAS, if a mistake is made, I don't see you going into a coma over it.
I've used a lot of slin, and the 10g carb to iu ratio is a safe bet to recommend to someone who hasn't used it, because quite frankly I don't want to be the reason you go into a coma. Over time I slowly decreased my carb intake till I saw sign of going hypo then adjusted accordingly. I eventually found out I only needed 4-5g of carbs preferably through dextrose, to maintain great levels, and keep fat at bay, But do I recommend you do this? NO! Since I prefer fast acting slin I dosed both Pre and 2 hours post workout, I've had my close calls. But i've also learned from them.
There is no possible way anyone here can give you 100% specific advice, because at the end of the day its going to boil down to how sensitive your body is to insulin. So now ask yourself, with all the research you have done, Can you still use the carb shake you bought rather then the one recommended? You need to figure this out, and within a few weeks, You will.
I suggest, you think a bit longer and a bit harder, before you make your commitment to insulin. While the results can be rewarding, they can also be fatal. Giving you MY personal protocol, could kill you, or you may love it. You and I wont know until you have the basics on hand, and get started.
Good luck to you...
heckler7
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Amazon.com: TRUEresult Blood Glucose Meter: Health & Personal Care buy this meter from amazon I like it because I can buy the test strips from around $10 a box and they are like $70 at the pharmacy
Standard Donkey
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i only use test strips like... twice a month. once at the beginning to see where my fbs is, and then again at the end of an insulin blast to see where it is... my fbs drops really quickly tho, last I checked it was 65 which is considered low
Mike Arnold
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lol...no.
You want a carb drink with no sugar that is only carbs period, which is why karbolyn is great, theres another carb drink i forgot the name thats even better but it taste like shit to me. I enjoy karbalyn.
everything is mixed with water, i figured this was common sense and a standard really, unless the juice is a source of macros in your diet then go for it, but if its not its a useless form of sugar, calories, carbs, and time. Get a meter ASAP running slin the first day without a meter i regret. If your going to do slin then do it right, dont put garbage in your body. To be honest i think you would benefit from a diet coach more then anything. You still have yet to post your stats which I am curious about.
The reason why i say get a meter is the first time I used slin i had NO clue what my BS dropped to but i felt drunk and disoriented. I got a meter the next day and felt fine ran my BS and it was 62. So if i felt fine at 62 only God knows what my BS was at when i felt like shit.
but im done with this thread, i will visit for my amusement but i gave you the best protocol that i personally know. I would follow it to a T. If you cant get Karbolyn then I would find another source of carbs with that same macros as karbolyn. frozen barritos and candy does not constitute good carbs.
wow thats cheap i think i spent 120 on my set up at rite aid because those strips are EXPENSIVE
didnt think so
heckler7
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actually if your not diabetic you don't need to check your blood sugar before injection, you know its gonna be good, if your using R type check it like an hour after and up to 4 or 5 hours after, but usually you can feel when your starting to get low, first you may feel extremely hungry followed by trembling that usually starts around 70-60 for me then light headed 60-50 and then my body gets cold sweets below 50
i like to check mine before just so i have a base line so i can calc the time it took to fall and ect and time it takes to recover. Because if you overload carbs you will just get fat so i want to know the exact amount of carbs i need to eat from x carbs = x time. I actually ran my BS every 15 mins to see the points it drops and then it starts to fall fast. 30 mins i would drop pretty low with humalin r. My gains were insane with ALLOT of fat lose but i just couldnt handle going hypo at night. I would be in the middle of a video game like call of duty and out of no where be like fuck got go and run to make me a protein shack with a cup of oats. Only way im running it again is with Humalog, Humalin was a pain in the ass.
heckler7
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if your gonna go thru that much trouble you should check before a meal and then 2 hours later, or check it if you feel sleepy after a meal, normal people shouldn't go higher than 140 (naturally) that should give you a real baseline. But to be honest you will never go higher. The lowest you should go is 70(naturally), but since you are adding insulin on top of your bodies natural output you may go a lot lower if you didn't eat enough carbs or took too much insulin.
heckler7
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honestly I don't understand the whole insulin thing and bodybuilding, but I do have over 10 years of injecting insulin 5-6 times a day. Seems to me like a waste of time, I mean if I were gonna spend money on something I would spend it on A bombs or SD that gives you more bang for the buck and you don't have to be so vigilant with your doses, you could fuck up on Abomb dose and it wont kill you moments later, just sayn
i was able to keep mine around 90 while on slin which was good. I had friends that would pound drinks and send theres up to 150. This is what i wanted to avoid. I wanted to keep mine from 90-105. My baseline was all ways 95-105. i logged mine all the time, call it over board but i like to know how my body is doing, same reason why i get bl done every month to two months.
heckler7
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its good that you were really on it, now you know how your body reacts cause everyone is different.
insulin honestly is really only good with hgh and if you want to take it to the next level. The gains you can get from slin is insane compared to other aas. Most people start using slin after they have really gone through with AAS and achieved what they can achieve with AAS and GH. It forces your body to really use all of the nutrition, but if the nutrition is crap your going to get fat. I had a good friend of mine turn into a tub of lard from slin. The pump is amazing preworkout and your all ways full. I want to do it again, but honestly i think i can get better results off of high test and a solid diet with 6iu of gh.
That's bullshit - slin is effective even without gear.
It's commonly used in Australia by serious bbers because unlike gear it's easy to get and cheap - a lot of guys bridge their cycles with it.
It's commonly used in Australia by serious bbers because unlike gear it's easy to get and cheap - a lot of guys bridge their cycles with it.
I can see people running it if they cant get AAS but the results from AAS for a new guy are going to be superior to slin. Look at the pre slin bbers the physiques they achieved. Slin is great for getting you to the next level and of course if its really your only option. I ran slin and hgh by it self with hcg and i would personally rather run a cycle of AAS over slin. Once i feel that i can really utilize slin to its full effect for it to be worth the effort then i will resort back. by the cost of slin sure is cheap but to run it properly takes ALLOT of money at least the way i prefer to run it. I was going through a tub of karbolyn a week.
You guys are so goddam lucky in the US
Mike Arnold
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You guys are so goddam lucky in the US
Australia is a bitch for gear users...even for high level BB'rs. GH is outrageously expoensive and hard to find...AAS are the same. Only slin is readilyy available over there.
Standard Donkey
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u know karboload is like...half the price right? doesn't taste nearly as good though
also.. using novalin R (generic regular) multiple times a day to cover your meals? idk man.. that's a really cheap and effective way to use it.. that's how im doing it to maintain gains during my cruise. 5iu gh first thing in the morning about an hour before eating, then 7iu with first meal and then 5iu 6 hours later. sometimes I use Humalog pre-workout on top of that if im feeling saucy
Mike - a lot of serious guys spend their off-season in Thailand... But the poor bastards literally get cavity searched on the way back in. Jesus, it's easier for junkies over here than bbers
u know karboload is like...half the price right? doesn't taste nearly as good though
How are your gains coming along? Happy with the results?
Standard Donkey
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only been doing this protocol for a few days, but im definitely gaining size, strength, and fullness. and my recovery is increasing too. although im down to 200mg prop a week for the next several weeks so im expecting the gains to drop off a bit
cerberus16sk
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sorry if i seemed unappreciative jay you have asnwered all my questions and more.. i will send you a pm with stats and some pics of me
