low test high deca help

[cagebrawler]

Im gonna run 200mg cyp a week with 400 to 500 mg deca a week. I know its all about keeping e2 in check and I will. I guess I just need to be reassured of what to have on hand and use. I was gonna have prami and aromasin on hand and run them thru out the cycle. What dosage should I use thru out cycle? Any help would be great thanks bros.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

I recommend tren being run higher, but I'm not 100% about Deca, NPP maybe, but that Deconate ester seems to screw with alot of people if not run equal or lower than test.

Aromasin 25mg/ed
Prami .25 - .5mg/ed

 

[Goodskie]

Start LOW on prami

 

[Vision]

I recommend tren being run higher, but I'm not 100% about Deca, NPP maybe, but that Deconate ester seems to screw with alot of people if not run equal or lower than test.

Aromasin 25mg/ed
Prami .25 - .5mg/ed

I was going to say the same. When running low/high cycles.. Always, and I mean always run the high compound if (tren/deca) or any 19-nor for that matter in a ace or prop ester.
It will clear faster ( as you already know ) and easier to manipulate under most circumstances. I would suggest running Cabar with it.
All you need is 150-200 to maintain normal and healthy sexual function, given the fact that you have progesterone activity in check. People are under the notion that Higher Test will manipulate and dictate (deca dick) and some progesterone sides. That is completely false. What is key here is targeting progesterone activity.

 

[pasamoto]

Ive done 200mg test with 600mg NPP. Fantastic cycle. Ancillaries were 12.5mg aromasin ED and 0.5mg caber 2x week. I ended up adding masteron which really felt great.

 

[Vision]

I was going to say the same. When running low/high cycles.. Always, and I mean always run the high compound if (tren/deca) or any 19-nor for that matter in a ace or prop ester.
It will clear faster ( as you already know ) and easier to manipulate under most circumstances. I would suggest running Cabar with it.
All you need is 150-200 to maintain normal and healthy sexual function, given the fact that you have progesterone activity in check. People are under the notion that Higher Test will manipulate and dictate (deca dick) and some progesterone sides. That is completely false. What is key here is targeting progesterone activity.

Ive done 200mg test with 600mg NPP. Fantastic cycle. Ancillaries were 12.5mg aromasin ED and 0.5mg caber 2x week. I ended up adding masteron which really felt great.

Like I suggested.. With results above to prove

 

[cagebrawler]

Thanks fellas I can only get my hands on prami I heard it could be pretty rough so ill start it very low and ill definitely run aromasin daily.

 

[Night_Wolf]

Dude you don't need ai for 200mg test, or prami for that baby dose of deca, why are you guys overusing ancillaries? Is ridiculous.


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[OldSchoolLifter]

Dude you don't need ai for 200mg test, or prami for that baby dose of deca, why are you guys overusing ancillaries? Is ridiculous.


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Sure...

Go run 500mg Deca and 200mg test, with no ancillaries, let me know how your pecker is working.

 

[heckler7]

Dude you don't need ai for 200mg test, or prami for that baby dose of deca, why are you guys overusing ancillaries? Is ridiculous.


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pics of your tits or gtfo

 

[Night_Wolf]

Sure...

Go run 500mg Deca and 200mg test, with no ancillaries, let me know how your pecker is working.

Whatever, I ran 125mg test with 900mg deca, I faped 3x a day+sex eod. I'm just sayin someone should try without any additional meds instead of taking something cuz of paranoia.
Some people get deca dick regardless of dose and some don't get it at all. And those are baby doses cmon man. I would consider that for some guy who is doing first cycle to get his feet wet.
200mg test doesn't aromatise that much, u really have to be ultra ultra estro sensitive and a fat ass to have problems.


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[oufinny]

Whatever, I ran 125mg test with 900mg deca, I faped 3x a day+sex eod. I'm just sayin someone should try without any additional meds instead of taking something cuz of paranoia.
Some people get deca dick regardless of dose and some don't get it at all. And those are baby doses cmon man. I would consider that for some guy who is doing first cycle to get his feet wet.
200mg test doesn't aromatise that much, u really have to be ultra ultra estro sensitive and a fat ass to have problems.


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These blanket statements based on YOURS and ONLY YOUR experience are counter productive and prove your ignorance. You obviously have no clue about how people react to given doses of compounds unless of course you're God and in that case, welcome to IML all knowing one. You're an idiot dude, go back to the gym and spout some more bro-science to the idiots you surely have following you around wondering if those are tits on a guy or just gyno.

 

[johnsonl3872]

Whatever, I ran 125mg test with 900mg deca, I faped 3x a day+sex eod. I'm just sayin someone should try without any additional meds instead of taking something cuz of paranoia.
Some people get deca dick regardless of dose and some don't get it at all. And those are baby doses cmon man. I would consider that for some guy who is doing first cycle to get his feet wet.
200mg test doesn't aromatise that much, u really have to be ultra ultra estro sensitive and a fat ass to have problems.


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Everyone is different-I don't ever have sides-except the one time I ran MTR and had some hair loss-that sucked by the way-good to have ancillaries on hand just in case though.....

 

[heckler7]

Whatever, I ran 125mg test with 900mg deca, I faped 3x a day+sex eod. I'm just sayin someone should try without any additional meds instead of taking something cuz of paranoia.
Some people get deca dick regardless of dose and some don't get it at all. And those are baby doses cmon man. I would consider that for some guy who is doing first cycle to get his feet wet.
200mg test doesn't aromatise that much, u really have to be ultra ultra estro sensitive and a fat ass to have problems.


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I would love to see labs for this run, glad it worked for you but some people run modest amounts and end up with deca dick. wouldn't advise it just sayn

 

[Night_Wolf]

These blanket statements based on YOURS and ONLY YOUR experience are counter productive and prove your ignorance. You obviously have no clue about how people react to given doses of compounds unless of course you're God and in that case, welcome to IML all knowing one. You're an idiot dude, go back to the gym and spout some more bro-science to the idiots you surely have following you around wondering if those are tits on a guy or just gyno.

Wow what an ego.
If someone has severe E2 probs at 200mg test than hes 30% or have worst genetics. How about doing lab and seeing u need other meds? Sounds good to me. And what should people on lots of gear take? 5mg letro a day or caber twice a day? Chill out.


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[Night_Wolf]

Everyone is different-I don't ever have sides-except the one time I ran MTR and had some hair loss-that sucked by the way-good to have ancillaries on hand just in case though.....

Yes yes. On hand. Not slamming meds just in case on baby doses. People should do labs and gauge. If someone is predisposed to hair loss he should def have meds on hand or use them from the start.


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[Night_Wolf]

I would love to see labs for this run, glad it worked for you but some people run modest amounts and end up with deca dick. wouldn't advise it just sayn

Yes thats true. Some people get deca dick regardless of deca dose and test dose. Is easier to try lets say deca and see how u react on those baby doses, you can fix it easily later if any problems arise.
And for test, thats trt dose, cmon, slaming ais for that is ridiculous.
I do labs and gauge my anci. by that.


Edit: only time I had libido probs is on 1g EQ, and that was compund specific, not E2.

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[s2h]

Estrogen increases progestin activity.....controlling estrogen is the key....drugs like prami and caber aren't even needed normally if estrogen is kept under control.....IMO you should never take either prami or caber just to take it cause your running a 19nor...crap shoot at best...

 

[jay_steel]

dial in your dose bro. Get blood work done once a month to get to know your body. Some of the things night wolf said is valid but i dont agree with him telling you not to run ai. By getting blood work done i was able to see what dose i needed and what worked. I have actually been on 1400 test and 600 npp with no AI and ZERO bad effects other thing raised BP which was still in the normal range just higher then im use to. The key with gear is knowing how your body reacts to it and not going over what you can handle with your experience level. My second cycle really was tren e at 600mg a week, test p 300 and winny 50mg ed and my bloods were god awful and l looked like a human pimple. So it is also based on your experience level. I am now running 400 test and 1g of tren with no sides as of yet with no AI. I will get my blood work done to see how my body is reacting to it as well. If I am good I may up my test to 800. There is honestly no right or wrong answer for anything. Its understanding how your body is going to react. I know people that can not handle 200mg of tren before they start bitching. My buddies nips leaked on 300 deca and 500 test. Shit happens to different people. I ran 600 deca and my dick was like a turtle. I just got off of 16 weeks of 600 npp and my dick was fucking like a Greek God.

 

[hrtpharm]

Letrozol every other day .5mg progesterone eliminator ive used in the past great results thats 1/2 mg 2.5 is standard dosing but that would be way to much.