Heres a game changer

[Mike Arnold]

Mods may get deals and gifts, but most mods here are completely honest when it comes to providing feedback on out sponsors.

They also have no idea who is ripping off who. Every accusation is always seriously considered and looked into.

I was a mod here a while back, and while there were some great perks, never once did I provide false feedback or protect sponsors that tried to take advantage of our members.

Our active and participating mod here currently are very straight forwarded and honest.

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Exactly. The claim that all the Mods secretely know which UGLs are ripping people off, but keeping it all to ourselves while pocketing free gear for protecting these UGLs shows just how little this guy actually knows.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I know when you were a MOD and why you're not anymore, I was here, so I don't want hear this "ethical" bullshit from your mouth.


There is no reason he shouldn't post his results other than protect a shitty sponsor.

At first I thought they should be posted too, but after speaking with a couple non-biased people who know much more about testing than myself...and hearing them say that these tests have not yet proven reliable, I now understand why the results arent being posted at this time. If these tests are not very accurate, they could end up causing people to bad mouth a lab without cause. If this happens even one time, it is unacceptable IMO.

So, to say there are "NO" reasons, shows you haven't thought this through very well. If these tests are not accurate, they will end up raising more questions than answers, which helps no one, but can potentially hurt a business. Posting results obtained from an unproven testing method is not very wise. I admit, I am interested as well, but at the minimum, we need to find out more about this new method before putting stock in it.

 

[hoyle21]

Hoyle you and other members have got no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And for the most part mods have no idea on what Admin are dealing with.

We collect and filter info, and when we find a sponsor or a member not being honest we remove them. For fucks sake the odd free vial of gears is hardly worth the grief. I'm STILL waiting for my h4h goddamit.

On this issue, s2h has spoken, his opinion carries more weight with me than any other mod on this board, period. He's a straight shooter so take his word as the truth.

Unless you've been under a rock, OSL has given more back to the board than anyone else has over the last 6 months. He's an asset here so show him his due respect.

The dude is full if shit and pretending to be something he's not. We all saw his picture. He's lucky if he's 180 lbs.

 

[hoyle21]

At first I thought they should be posted too, but after speaking with a couple non-biased people who know much more about testing than myself...and hearing them say that these tests have not yet proven reliable, I now understand why the results arent being posted at this time. If these tests are not very accurate, they could end up causing people to bad mouth a lab without cause. If this happens even one time, it is unacceptable IMO.

So, to say there are "NO" reasons, shows you haven't thought this through very well. If these tests are not accurate, they will end up raising more questions than answers, which helps no one, but can potentially hurt a business. Posting results obtained from an unproven testing method is not very wise. I admit, I am interested as well, but at the minimum, we need to find out more about this new method before putting stock in it.

Again two paragraphs of BS to say you need to protect sponsors . No test is 100%. The standard blood test on this site that is supported by HeavyIron has a failure rate. I have proven it myself with my script Test Cyp. I test very low every time.

It doesn't mean that his test shouldn't be used , it means buyers need to look at ALL the information to make an informed decision.

Currently there is information available that the members aren't capable of even seeing to make their decision. That's shitty man.

 

[s2h]

Again two paragraphs of BS to say you need to protect sponsors . No test is 100%. The standard blood test on this site that is supported by HeavyIron has a failure rate. I have proven it myself with my script Test Cyp. I test very low every time.

It doesn't mean that his test shouldn't be used , it means buyers need to look at ALL the information to make an informed decision.

Currently there is information available that the members aren't capable of even seeing to make their decision. That's shitty man.

Have you used one of these test kits?...if so was it accurate to what you tested?..what compounds did you test it with?..

 

[hoyle21]

I have not used the kit, but the information should be available.

Actually it is, all you have to do is a quick google search and you can see results. After seeing the brands that failed I see why you don't want the information available.

I'll say this, good job world pharma.

 

[heavyiron]

Link us up, I have been absolutely buried with the Holidays and work so I don't have time to search and study at the moment.

Thanks!

 

[SheriV]

I'm gonna say something really unpopular...

I'd love for there to be testing on everything gearz... (chick/var/you fucking do the math) but I also have a science degree (two in fact) and frankly..this is just too easy to screw with and screw up. I believe it will sincerely only cloud up things more...add credibility where it is NOT due, does not test sterility in any way shape or form, doesn't test concentration and doesn't appear to cover some of the more faked play things out there.
So what good does it do? what exactly does it prove? How does it help the community?

I also got news for you, the sponsors (all of them) pay to be here..its how the site runs. I've seen problems with sponsors looked into by mods/admin and I've been all over the net and honestly you don't run into that often...so everyone crying about how the site is a fraud blah blah blah...should really go look around elsewhere a little more closely...go take a look at a site that pops up almost first on a google search and see the disgusting shilling there. You don't know how good you have it here.

buy your test, check your own shit..tell your friends..you've been told not to post it here for now. I don't know why thats so fucking hard or why it needs to be taken personally.

 

[jrock00123]

How about at least posting the ones that PASSED!

 

[SheriV]

but that still doesn't make it good gear, it just had detectable hormone in it.

tranny urine probably has detectable hormone in it.

 

[SheriV]

let me rephrase that...if you paid for 200mg/ml of whatever, but it was really closer to 20mg/ml and it passed the test...would you be happy?
because thats all the test looks for..whether or not it has the drug in it

how bout if its loaded with active e-coli..but the test said it was gtg, are you pleased?

 

[hoyle21]

Injecting 300 mgs test Cyp for five weeks then having blood drawn doesn't test for active E. coli, exact dosing or heavy metals but is still acceptable on this forum.

Any test available no matter how crude is better than nothing.

 

[hoyle21]

HeavyIron, I'm on my phone, but I'll send you links when things calm down for the holidays. For the most part not a lot of surprises. Mexgear is pure oil, but we all new that. Lots of companies selling Test Prop. as other products. No surprise there, we all new that was going on.

Some labs on this board failed. I have yet to see a failed Asia Pharma test, and some other popular labs haven't been tested from what I can see.

 

[SheriV]

difference is bloodwork is drawn by a medical professional, and the workup is done in a licensed and inspected lab with procedures in place to prevent errors

explain to me how this is even remotely on the same page. please.

 

[Kirk B]

this got taken to a whole new place then when it started ! I can def see why concern on both sides but like people said there could be 20mg of mast in a bottle thats should have 100mg or 200mg we have no way of knowing the quality off the grears but i like to see that there is hormorne in it altleat also this is a tough one too, def see the points on booth sides but i'd like to see the results just to see them jmo and I don't mean shit so it aint gonna happen I guess but bloods are gtg all you can see is there test in there not how much either and not what kind so i dont see the difference really who know's tho not me for sure !!!

 

[independent]

difference is bloodwork is drawn by a medical professional, and the workup is done in a licensed and inspected lab with procedures in place to prevent errors

explain to me how this is even remotely on the same page. please.

Would you rather take var or dbol? This test works in your favor.

 

[hoyle21]

The drawing of the vial, cleanliness, depth of injection, and actual dosage is done by an unlicensed person for the blood test. Still, just as many variables. However that is considered a viable test.

 

[SheriV]

Would you rather take var or dbol? This test works in your favor.

right, but if its a fraction of var but mostly winny or dbol how does that do me any good.

 

[SheriV]

The drawing of the vial, cleanliness, depth of injection, and actual dosage is done by an unlicensed person for the blood test. Still, just as many variables. However that is considered a viable test.

apples and oranges and I think you know this

 

[s2h]

How about at least posting the ones that PASSED!

that's part of the issue also..if testing is not accurate does giving the green light from this process make it any better...i'm sure you wouldn't be happy if you acquired a product that tested well and it ended up being way under dosed?

like what has been stated this testing kit even if accurate only allows for a partial amount of information...its a double edged sword so to say..

 

[s2h]

I have not used the kit, but the information should be available.

Actually it is, all you have to do is a quick google search and you can see results. After seeing the brands that failed I see why you don't want the information available.

I'll say this, good job world pharma.

i guess my next questions is...do you believe everything you read on the internet??..if this process proves accurate for testing for the listed compound then that's a good thing...i'm certainly not gonna buy into it just cause somebody posted it online...but if proven accurate thru cross testing via mass spec then this item has SOME value..and that is it can provide feedback on the content contained in the vial..it still gives me little reassurance after that with its inability to give any other data..can we agree on that?

 

[hoyle21]

i guess my next questions is...do you believe everything you read on the internet??..if this process proves accurate for testing for the listed compound then that's a good thing...i'm certainly not gonna buy into it just cause somebody posted it online...but if proven accurate thru cross testing via mass spec then this item has SOME value..and that is it can provide feedback on the content contained in the vial..it still gives me little reassurance after that with its inability to give any other data..can we agree on that?

I am not arguing that point. As a consumer I should have, and belong to this site so that I can further gain knowledge and make better decisions. That requires having all the information available. How I decide to weigh the info should be my choice. Not some mod on a message board.

 

[hoyle21]

apples and oranges and I think you know this

No it's not, you lost control of the testing and the data is not accurate in a scientific experiment. Both tests are equally flawed. The tests are either controlled 100% or they are not.

 

[SheriV]

I am not arguing that point. As a consumer I should have, and belong to this site so that I can further gain knowledge and make better decisions. That requires having all the information available. How I decide to weigh the info should be my choice. Not some mod on a message board.

I'm pretty sure is up to the mods whether or not its posted on the site they moderate however.

 

[SheriV]

No it's not, you lost control of the testing and the data is not accurate in a scientific experiment. Both tests are equally flawed. The tests are either controlled 100% or they are not.

I can agree with this...and I'm pretty sure what I said earlier was that the test was flawed. Thank you for pointing that out as well, but equally flawed I can not concede. Following established guidelines to clean, draw and inject a compound is not the same as going in to the lab ..where you don't yet know the established protocol to go run the centrifuge.

 

[independent]

All it takes is a google search if anyones interested in the results.

 

[SheriV]

I'm checking em out Moe. Its interesting for sure...and definitely bears more looking in to.

 

[hoyle21]

Yup the competitor sites are posting it. Find the truth people.

 

[sneedham]

All it takes is a google search if anyones interested in the results.

Hey more can you send me the link..also you know I got your back right?

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[sneedham]

Hey more can you send me the link..also you know I got your back right?

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Damn that was not a pm...sorry moe....

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