Did i kill my estrogen too much?

[shayan]

This is my second thread this week so id like to apologize but i ran to another problem and i need some oppinions.
So: i developed some mild gyno and i loaded on adex 1mg eod for a few days and all the pain and ichiness went away (thank god) also i used some nolva 40mg ed.
Anyway i started to feel tired all the time and sleepy, i can literally fall a sleep at any time while i type this thread lol. Is ti possible i crashed my e2 too much?
I'm getting blood work tomorrow and i will know for sure but i'd just like to hear your oppinion. If my e2 is lower than it should be i will drop my adex to 0.5 or 0.25 eod would that suffice?

How much would you run on a 500test/ 300/deca/ 30/dbol cycle?
Note:im gyno prone.

 

[shayan]

Shameless bump

 

[SoCalSwole]

Sounds like it to me. How do your joints feel? Mine get really dry and crack a lot when my E is too low. The blood work will show for sure what the deal is. Adjust it up and down slowly the roller coaster ride you can get on trying to make it right is no fun. Also detrimental to the other gear giving you their best results. After you drop the Nolva it should be easier to control.

 

[shayan]

Sounds like it to me. How do your joints feel? Mine get really dry and crack a lot when my E is too low. The blood work will show for sure what the deal is. Adjust it up and down slowly the roller coaster ride you can get on trying to make it right is no fun. Also detrimental to the other gear giving you their best results. After you drop the Nolva it should be easier to control.

Why nolva? the nolva doesnt affect e2 its a SERM (only binds to estrogen receptors @ the nipples) huh? Any way i feel slight discomfort in my elbows but its nothing too bad. Firstly i was affraid that its due to high e2 but its not possible on 1mg adex to have high estrogen on only 500mg test (wich has not even kicked in its week 2..) so the dbol is the main issue. Also i loocked up low estrogen symptoms and lethargecy and sleepyness is a sign of low e2.

 

[heckler7]

with the Deca your joints probably feel great, dbol is most likely source of gyno. may need to check your BP

 

[shayan]

with the Deca your joints probably feel great, dbol is most likely source of gyno. may need to check your BP

Well bro i dont think the deca is in effect as i stated is still week 2. I know dbol is the culprit but i love the incrise in protein synthesis that it gives i look and feel bigger in just 7 days..

 

[shayan]

This is an idividual question to you my fellows how much adex do you personaly use?

 

[shayan]

Ps i have read that dbol makes ppl lathargic and sleepy but what's the mechanism behind that?

 

[independent]

Stop guessing and get labs.

 

[s2h]

if your gyno prone you may want to find some different choices in AAS...and get labs and don't guess..live and learn..

 

[raysd21]

Stop guessing and get labs.

Yeah no shit. You are a fucking train wreck bro. And a prime example of someone who is not ready to be running gear. People like you are the reason this shit is illegal. No offense it's just the fuckin truth. Get your shit together. You needed more experience before you jumped into deca/dbol stack. But you just had to go for the big time didn't you. Well you are learning now the hard way. Enjoy. Hope you get your shit straightened out.

 

[independent]

Yeah no shit. You are a fucking train wreck bro. And a prime example of someone who is not ready to be running gear. People like you are the reason this shit is illegal. No offense it's just the fuckin truth. Get your shit together. You needed more experience before you jumped into deca/dbol stack. But you just had to go for the big time didn't you. Well you are learning now the hard way. Enjoy. Hope you get your shit straightened out.

Rays been drinking tonight. Lol.

 

[heckler7]

This is an idividual question to you my fellows how much adex do you personaly use?

adex.5 EOD I pulse the dbol preworkout otherwise my nipples go crazy

 

[Mike Arnold]

This is my second thread this week so id like to apologize but i ran to another problem and i need some oppinions.
So: i developed some mild gyno and i loaded on adex 1mg eod for a few days and all the pain and ichiness went away (thank god) also i used some nolva 40mg ed.
Anyway i started to feel tired all the time and sleepy, i can literally fall a sleep at any time while i type this thread lol. Is ti possible i crashed my e2 too much?
I'm getting blood work tomorrow and i will know for sure but i'd just like to hear your oppinion. If my e2 is lower than it should be i will drop my adex to 0.5 or 0.25 eod would that suffice?

How much would you run on a 500test/ 300/deca/ 30/dbol cycle?
Note:im gyno prone.

Like SH2 said, get labs. No one can tell you what your AI dose should be, as everyone responds differently to these drugs. I will tell you this, though--1 mg EOD is not much at all, especially when running 500 tes, 30 mg D-bol and 300 mg Deca. I would run at least that much with that cycle, if not more.

Remember, if you start developing gyno, you can just add in some nolva and it wll go away. Nolva stops the progression of gyno more quickly than AI's...and bvecause Nolva doesn't lower estrogen levels, you don't have to be worried about "crushing" your estrogen, which is blown way out of proportion by too many guys these days.

If you are gyno prone, you might want to think about staying away from shit like D-bol, which is one of the very worst drugs for gyno development. Also, like S2H said, if you want exact answers, then get labs.

 

[blergs.]

This is my second thread this week so id like to apologize but i ran to another problem and i need some oppinions.
So: i developed some mild gyno and i loaded on adex 1mg eod for a few days and all the pain and ichiness went away (thank god) also i used some nolva 40mg ed.
Anyway i started to feel tired all the time and sleepy, i can literally fall a sleep at any time while i type this thread lol. Is ti possible i crashed my e2 too much?
I'm getting blood work tomorrow and i will know for sure but i'd just like to hear your oppinion. If my e2 is lower than it should be i will drop my adex to 0.5 or 0.25 eod would that suffice?

How much would you run on a 500test/ 300/deca/ 30/dbol cycle?
Note:im gyno prone.

0.25mg-0.5mg eod of dex.......

 

[shayan]

Just got my e2 levels checked the results are:

131.0547 pmol/L> 205.576pmol/L Men.

35,7 pg/ml > 56pg/ml

 

[shayan]

Are my e2 levels good in your oppinion?

 

[heckler7]

E2 should be between 7.6-46 pg/ml according to labcorp so yours look good

 

[shayan]

E2 should be between 7.6-46 pg/ml according to labcorp so yours look good

Well than i relly cant figure out why do i feel so sleepy? Im constantly tired and sleepy i can barly stay awake

 

[heckler7]

Well than i relly cant figure out why do i feel so sleepy? Im constantly tired and sleepy i can barly stay awake

higher calorie intake and rapid body changes due to AAS use most likely the culprit.

 

[shayan]

higher calorie intake and rapid body changes due to AAS use most likely the culprit.

I hear you bro, have you ever experienced such a thing?

 

[dagambd]

Yeah no shit. You are a fucking train wreck bro. And a prime example of someone who is not ready to be running gear. People like you are the reason this shit is illegal. No offense it's just the fuckin truth. Get your shit together. You needed more experience before you jumped into deca/dbol stack. But you just had to go for the big time didn't you. Well you are learning now the hard way. Enjoy. Hope you get your shit straightened out.

Raysd21, always speaking the truth. You make me laugh.

 

[dagambd]

Shayan,

Are you taking any over-the-counter or prescription medications that could be interacting with the gear. I read your other thread. This is your first cycle right? I am currently running my first cycle and I am running test E 500 mg, Proviron 50 mg eod and exemestane 12.5 mg eod. I have had trouble with all aspects of sleeping for over a decade. During the cycle I have been sleeping better than I have in a long time. I agree with heckler in that your body is making changes rapidly. My workouts have become much more intense and am growing every week. Im sure that's why im sleeping better. Hope things make a turnaround for you.

 

[heavyiron]

When I train hard I need more rest. Crazy huh?

 

[shayan]

Shayan,

Are you taking any over-the-counter or prescription medications that could be interacting with the gear. I read your other thread. This is your first cycle right? I am currently running my first cycle and I am running test E 500 mg, Proviron 50 mg eod and exemestane 12.5 mg eod. I have had trouble with all aspects of sleeping for over a decade. During the cycle I have been sleeping better than I have in a long time. I agree with heckler in that your body is making changes rapidly. My workouts have become much more intense and am growing every week. Im sure that's why im sleeping better. Hope things make a turnaround for you.

No bro i don't take any other meds.

All im taking (apart from the gear is)

Adex 1mg/eod
Caber 0.25mg e3d
Nolva 20mg ed
50mg Zinc
1g Vitamin C
Omega 3 /6
Vitamin E 600 Iu

 

[shayan]

When I train hard I need more rest. Crazy huh?

Obviosly but this is not the usual required rest for recovery... Im sleepy from the minute i wake up till i go to bed i have to force myself to move around so i can stay awake and alot of people on dbol have reported lethargecy but what intrests me is the mechanism behind this phenomenon.

 

[dagambd]

Did you stop the dbol? You may have to stay away from dbol altogether. If you haven't, I would stop taking that and see where you are with the lethargy after a few days. Don't change anything else or you won't know what's causing it.

 

[shayan]

Did you stop the dbol? You may have to stay away from dbol altogether. If you haven't, I would stop taking that and see where you are with the lethargy after a few days. Don't change anything else or you won't know what's causing it.

I haven't stopped it but im considering it

 

[dagambd]

Have you tried splitting up the dose throughout the day? That may help. Reading through another thread, it sounds like it may go away if you give it time. And for some people it did go away.

 

[dagambd]

How long has this been going on?