Past my Prime? Journal

[aton]

It's ok to have a loose diet as long as ur getting ur goal macro's and cal's

U may be a little low on total cal's. U should be up a half lb a week. Gaining more than that maybe more fat, but not always

I feel u on the shoulder pain bubba.


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[crawfBigG]

It's ok to have a loose diet as long as ur getting ur goal macro's and cal's

U may be a little low on total cal's. U should be up a half lb a week. Gaining more than that maybe more fat, but not always

I feel u on the shoulder pain bubba.


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Thanks brother, good stuff there. Very very good info, and only someone who knows would say what you just said.

Yeah, I will still hold out hope that they may improve one day, never give up.


Weigh-in: 211.2. Did some back today. No pins today other than HCG and GH, popped 40mg Anavar preworkout for no apparent reason, lol. I'm bout to take a little break from the gearz, let my body get it's receptors craving gear again, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Hope I can hold onto these gains, I think I'll be fine. I'm going to use some SARMs, GH, HCG, Aromasin for about a month. I used Ostarine a couple times in the past, gonna stack that with LGD-4033 and see how it goes. My wife is going to try some Ostarine too, just like 7mg a day. This is going to be cool. She has been going to the gym with me on a regular basis for about the last 6 weeks. She has progressed quite well too. She has never really lifted weights before this, not on a consistent basis. It's been a lot of fun training together. She does whatever I want to do, deads, squats, whatever she'll do it.

Nautilus Pullover - 4 sets

Deficit SLDLs ( stand on 1 plate ) - 135 x 10, 185 x 8, 205 x 8, 225 x 6, 255 x 6, 275 x 6, 295 x 6

Pendlay Rows - 135 x 10, 185 x 8, 205 x 6, 225 x 6

Superset Wide Pulldowns with Rope Straight Arm Lat Press downs - 3 sets

Weighted Sit-ups - 3 sets

Hanging Leg Raises - 3 sets

 

[aton]

U may already know this and I'm wasting my breath but hcg is bypassing the HPTA Sys.

So when u drop ur gear and try to kick start ur natty levels u gonna b counter productive here.

If ur just gonna cruise then no worries. Cuz ur not trying to set
Things straight just reset ur receptors.

There r supps that will help if possible bring it back to normal. A solid pct at the end is always ur best bet.

I can't comment on serms or sarms. They r very new and I feel there just isn't enough research on long term poss sides.

I've always been partial to var, winny, maybe mast for women.
Luckily they don't have our problem of elevating estrogen. No rebounding.

Not that I'm suggesting u guys change ur plans.
Please keep us posted on her progress. I think she is in good hands w ur guidance.

Hope I don't come off as a know it all. Truly I don't at all and love to read others advice and experiences.

That is awesome that ur wife is getting into ur passion of fitness!! And to follow what u do as well. That rocks!!!!!!

My wife has been killing the weights and diet for the last 9 months and I'm so proud of what she has done.




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[crawfBigG]

I used to be with an HRT clinic and they always had me use HCG year round, two shots a week, then twice a year take a month off and use HCG at a higher rate, then back to cruise (or whatever I chose to do) and back to the twice a week. So I have been on HRT for about 4 years now so I always cruise or blast except for the month or 2 months a year I go totally off. But what do you mean by it's bypassing the HPTA? Why would it be counter productive? I am not an expert on gear, before the HRT started in late 2011 I had never touched gear nor had done any research or anything. I have learned a lot since but I'm always looking to learn more in this area. The HRT clinic would also have me do Clomid on my month off but I'm not really worried about bringing back my natty test. I just want to hear more on this subject if you care to explain. Thanks.

Thanks about the wife and kudos to yours. It is awesome having her engaged in this with me. Btw I did suggest var to my wife but she didn't really want to touch anything hormonal. I was thinking about using the SARMs anyway and knew MK-2866 was ok for women to use at low dose so I suggested trying it.

 

[aton]

Now I'm not extremely versed on every part of the process. But using hcg bypasses the pituitary and hypothalamus directly stimulates the leydig. So no gnrh or lh is produced

Hcg cuts out the middle man and directly stimulated test to produce making ur testies bigger and producing test. The hpta continues to stay shut down.
If u cruise and blast then no worries because u r synthetically doing the same thing.

If u r doing hrt then most likely u will not b able to get any natural normal production going anyways.


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[aton]

Or at least not enough normal levels for ur age.


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[crawfBigG]

Is it even worth my time to do HCG at all? The only reason I continue to use it is just because they always had me use it. And I probably do cruise quite a few months a year, but is it even doing anything for me or should I just drop it you think? I have only been away from the clinic about 6 months.....

 

[aton]

It can help in the sex department. Larger loads, elevated total test. It is worth it. It helps keep ur nat Sys from completely shutting down.


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[aton]

Others may say stay away from it and use natural supplements but I have not read a single study that has documented a supplement that can up regulate ur hpta Sys while on gear.

There r very few things out there that can bypass these systems and increase ur test levels.
Hcg/hmg
Aromasin
Letro
Clomid
And a number of other similar drugs accomplish this by dropping estro levels to trick ur body to increase test by way of negative feed back or by directly stimulating the leydig cells.


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[crawfBigG]

It can help in the sex department. Larger loads, elevated total test. It is worth it. It helps keep ur nat Sys from completely shutting down.


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This was something I heard them tell me as well. We were going over my bloodwork one time and I asked about my LH still being super low despite using HCG and he told me basically it just keeps a pulse going in your natty system. This is a good enough reason to me to keep using it, well, and the loads, lol.

 

[crawfBigG]

Others may say stay away from it and use natural supplements but I have not read a single study that has documented a supplement that can up regulate ur hpta Sys while on gear.

There r very few things out there that can bypass these systems and increase ur test levels.
Hcg/hmg
Aromasin
Letro
Clomid
And a number of other similar drugs accomplish this by dropping estro levels to trick ur body to increase test by way of negative feed back or by directly stimulating the leydig cells.


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More awesome info brother. Thanks again for the info, I appreciate it.

 

[aton]

Anytime bubba anytime.


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[crawfBigG]

Weigh-in: 216.8. I freaking had another back tweak! Monday morning went to do my cardio and as I got out of the car... BOOM... nice little jerk in my low back, not disabling but not good either. Still managed my cardio 24 min. fasted Monday and Tuesday morning StairMaster. Did a decent Chest and Biceps session last night. It's legs today though and I'm just going to go in and see what I can do. If anything I'll just fool around with something easy and make sure my wife gets a good session in. No pins other than GH, popped 40mg Anavar again preworkout last night. My SARMs should be here Thursday.

Nautilus Chest - 4 sets, high reps

Incline Bench - 115 x 10, 135 x 8, 155 x 8, 175 x 6, 195 x 6, 205 x 6

Superset Cable Crossovers and Stretch Push Ups - 3 sets

Superset Chest Dips and Nautilus Bicep - 3 sets

EZ Bar Curls - pause at top, and pause at mid point on negative - 3 sets

Seated Dumbbell Curls - 3 sets

Cable Rvs. Curls - 3 sets

Had a nice pump going in chest and biceps, pretty decent workout considering my low back was weak as hell.

 

[crawfBigG]

Weigh-in: 219.2. Managed to get through the leg workout with my wife yesterday, just very light weight. Did 24 min. fasted cardio this morning.

Front Squats - 6 sets

Split Squats - 3 sets

Leg Extensions - 3 sets

Hip Abductor - 3 sets

Seated Leg Curls - 4 sets

Superset Lying Leg Curls with Calf Raises - 3 sets

 

[crawfBigG]

Weigh-in: 213.8. A 4lb. drop from yesterday. My weight has been all over the place lately. I switched up GH brands not long ago and my diet not being real consistent I'm guessing. My hands are numb as fuck from the new GH. Today makes 8 days since my last gearz pin. My SARMs came in yesterday and I started them.

2 Osta and @ LGD ed, Rd 1 in the morning, Rd 2 evening, one of each...

I wanted to take a little break and I wanted to get something to help keep my gains while I'm off. My wife is also taking the Osta, just 1 cap ed. I did a month off with HCG, Clomid, and Adex, a little GH, and frankly it didn't go that great. Got weaker, lost my appetite, lost my desire to go to the gym some even. Lets see how it goes with this. I've used Ostarine before, and liked it pretty well. So it'll be that and 2iu GH ed, 25mg Aromasin eod, HCG 300iu 2-3 times a week, I take a little T4 and Cialis as well, more of a just as needed approach.

So last night....

Side Laterals DBs - 4 sets, drop set on the 4th set, down the rack

Seated DB Presses - these hurt my shoulders, hell what don't anymore - 30s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s x 10

Rear Delts on Inc. Bench - 3 sets

Seated Smith BTN Presses - 4 sets - 95 x 12, 135 x 8 x 3 sets

One Arm Shrugs on the Smith - 3 sets

Tricep Rope Pressdowns - 3 sets

Camber Bar Pressdowns - 3 sets

Ass. Dips - 3 sets

LTEs - 3 sets

Oh yeah, and I did 24 min. fasted cardio Friday as well. I feel like someone beat the shit out of me right now. My right knee hurts, my low back, and of course both shoulders.... lol....

 

[aton]

R u consistently getting in the same amount of meals everyday?

R u consuming enough carbs and protein and fats everyday?

It kinda seems as thou ur weight is up and down 6-8lbs each week. If u have a huge meal that one day versus the next that would account for a few lbs here and there.

I gotta go off the wagon for a few meals in a row to jump up 2-3 lbs then it takes me at least 2 days to get rid of it.

If I eat dirty consistently I would put on 6-10lbs in 1.5-2 wks. But that makes it so damn hard to burn the fat later.
Don't get me wrong here even eating clean I consume a lot of cal's. I average 1000 a meal times 6 meals.

On to ur shoulder problems. I don't know ur practice but it ok to
Use less weight, let the muscle move it not the joints.

I have problems w mine as well. I only do an over head press once a wk.
I look for a movement that is a pull instead of a push.
What I mean is I do side lateral raises, side rows, front rows, bent rows, shrugs r amazing for delt development. This one u should be able to go very heavy on when u want to. On side laterals I always use elbows bent. I pretend to lift w my elbow. I don't extend the weight out but bent instead. I also pretend I'm poring water out of a pitcher. Raising my pinkies above my thumbs. Every delt movement I do this.
I don't over extent the full motion of the rep either. It might be a hard one to imagine. U leave ur rotator cuff susceptible to injury, pain inflammation when u over extent.
B4 u start delt work warm up w 1-2 rotator moves for 20 reps b4 jumping into the rest.

Slow the entire movement down.


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[aton]

And yes if ur hands r numb it's a good gh.


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[aton]

If ur diet and rest r consistent every day u should feel stronger each wk when u re-visit the same lift.
Each workout day u should feel strong wanting to lift not mentally forcing ur self to do it. If not it's a sign u have not consumed enough cal's and macros to recover or u need more rest.
Now if ur intensity is crazy high and u beat the shit out of ur self and u have to be stretchered out of the gym then yah dude ur gonna feel that for a while but u don't want to do that too often.

Drop sets, super sets, perymids, neg forced failures on and on should be cycled in a plan. They stress the shit out of ur nerve Sys. Always push ur self past what u think u can do at the moment but cycle all of these. Think smart about ur plan
And goals.

I'm off my stupid soap box. Again this is only my stupid 2 cents and what's worked for me. No offense meant.


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[aton]

And u seem to have a decent workout plan set up.


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[crawfBigG]

R u consistently getting in the same amount of meals everyday?

R u consuming enough carbs and protein and fats everyday?

It kinda seems as thou ur weight is up and down 6-8lbs each week. If u have a huge meal that one day versus the next that would account for a few lbs here and there.

I gotta go off the wagon for a few meals in a row to jump up 2-3 lbs then it takes me at least 2 days to get rid of it.

If I eat dirty consistently I would put on 6-10lbs in 1.5-2 wks. But that makes it so damn hard to burn the fat later.
Don't get me wrong here even eating clean I consume a lot of cal's. I average 1000 a meal times 6 meals.

On to ur shoulder problems. I don't know ur practice but it ok to
Use less weight, let the muscle move it not the joints.

I have problems w mine as well. I only do an over head press once a wk.
I look for a movement that is a pull instead of a push.
What I mean is I do side lateral raises, side rows, front rows, bent rows, shrugs r amazing for delt development. This one u should be able to go very heavy on when u want to. On side laterals I always use elbows bent. I pretend to lift w my elbow. I don't extend the weight out but bent instead. I also pretend I'm poring water out of a pitcher. Raising my pinkies above my thumbs. Every delt movement I do this.
I don't over extent the full motion of the rep either. It might be a hard one to imagine. U leave ur rotator cuff susceptible to injury, pain inflammation when u over extent.
B4 u start delt work warm up w 1-2 rotator moves for 20 reps b4 jumping into the rest.

Slow the entire movement down.


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Same amount of meals each day but calories have varied quite a bit due to not being consistent the 2nd half of day, just kinda winging it some lately instead of sticking to a solid plan.

And yes I hate having to burn off shit loads of fat later from trying to bulk up. I have a skin pinch caliper and I just test a spot on my abs consistently, same spot, when it reaches a certain number I go directly into a mini diet to get that number back down some before I resume above maint. calories. Hoping that at the onset of each mini diet I am heavier than the last time I reached that number.

Good to hear about using less weight cause I have no choice these days, the pain is too much to stay training heavy for very long. I do many of the things you said in your shoulder stuff, thanks again for the info.

 

[crawfBigG]

And yes if ur hands r numb it's a good gh.


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Nice!

 

[crawfBigG]

If ur diet and rest r consistent every day u should feel stronger each wk when u re-visit the same lift.
Each workout day u should feel strong wanting to lift not mentally forcing ur self to do it. If not it's a sign u have not consumed enough cal's and macros to recover or u need more rest.
Now if ur intensity is crazy high and u beat the shit out of ur self and u have to be stretchered out of the gym then yah dude ur gonna feel that for a while but u don't want to do that too often.

Drop sets, super sets, perymids, neg forced failures on and on should be cycled in a plan. They stress the shit out of ur nerve Sys. Always push ur self past what u think u can do at the moment but cycle all of these. Think smart about ur plan
And goals.

I'm off my stupid soap box. Again this is only my stupid 2 cents and what's worked for me. No offense meant.


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I very much agree with these statements. One question, you say not enough macros or rest to recover. Well if I feel that way should I take and extra day off or just back it down for that day and see if I'm not back up to snuff for the next session?

I do drop sets, pyramids, super sets, but i don't do much negs or failure sets, maybe I should work these in as long as I can get a good spotter.

No offense taken brother, you can keep this info coming all you want I really appreciate it.

 

[crawfBigG]

Weigh-in: 212.6. 24 min. fasted cardio Monday and Tuesday morning. Did Back on Sunday. Prob some chest tonight. Still no pins of gearz, just gh and hcg. Still popping my SARMs. Changed diet up to low carb for a bit before I become a fatass!

Kept volume and movements on the easier side to allow my low back to get healed up....

DB Pullovers - 4 sets

Back Extensions with Bands - 4 sets

Ass. Wide Pull Ups - 3 sets

Meadows Rows - 5 sets

20 min. Cardio post

 

[aton]

I have never followed the idea that u need to take a certain prescribed amount of days off after training a body part.

I do however choose not to lift heavy w that muscle for at least 48 hrs.

If I do a heavy hard leg workout I will still do light cardio later that day and moderate or hit cardio the next day.

What I'm saying is if u are getting a solid amount of nutrition and calories each day u should not get very sore as u advance in lifting. The next day or 2 u should feel a slight noticeable soreness or tightness but not a painful muscle soreness.

When diet and training are dialed in u should feel motivated to exercise the next day. U will c strength increase each wk by way of doing more reps or weight lifted. ur muscles should feel hard pumped and strong.

I'm able to lift 6 days a wk and often workout twice a day.

I lift in the morning and cardio at lunch time. If I'm cutting I will do cardio 2 x day on non lift days and once on lift days.

When I do a lean bulk I cut my cardio back to once a day only 3 times during the wk.


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[aton]

This is an example of what u could be doing and still see strength and size growth.
I'm
Not saying u have to do this or should feel u need to.

I'm only saying u have to listen to ur body and look out side the box to figure out why ur tired, overly sore, not progressing in ur goals.


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[aton]

If u have it all together and only progress w more time out of the gym then that's ur norm. Only u can be the ultimate judge on that.


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[aton]

Not a bad way of judging when u need to start ur mini diet w the calipers.

I like it!

I just use the mirror. I'm overly critical of myself so it works for me.

 

[crawfBigG]

I have never followed the idea that u need to take a certain prescribed amount of days off after training a body part.

I do however choose not to lift heavy w that muscle for at least 48 hrs.

If I do a heavy hard leg workout I will still do light cardio later that day and moderate or hit cardio the next day.

What I'm saying is if u are getting a solid amount of nutrition and calories each day u should not get very sore as u advance in lifting. The next day or 2 u should feel a slight noticeable soreness or tightness but not a painful muscle soreness.

When diet and training are dialed in u should feel motivated to exercise the next day. U will c strength increase each wk by way of doing more reps or weight lifted. ur muscles should feel hard pumped and strong.

I'm able to lift 6 days a wk and often workout twice a day.

I lift in the morning and cardio at lunch time. If I'm cutting I will do cardio 2 x day on non lift days and once on lift days.

When I do a lean bulk I cut my cardio back to once a day only 3 times during the wk.


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Awesome stuff. I like that, maybe I could try that, heavy and then the next workout more form and pump, mm connection. I'm saying when that muscle group comes up again. I usually train hard and heavy until I feel like someone beat the shit out of me, then back it down for a while till my joints and stuff feel better. If I rotated it heavy, then lighter but very tuned into the muscle I could prob get more out of it doing it that way. I'm going to have to try this.

I do similar things with my cardio depending on goals at the time.

I used to work for John Parrillo when I was a teen and he always said there is no such thing as overtraining, only under eating. I believe he coined this phrase before you started hearing everyone else saying it.

 

[crawfBigG]

This is an example of what u could be doing and still see strength and size growth.
I'm
Not saying u have to do this or should feel u need to.

I'm only saying u have to listen to ur body and look out side the box to figure out why ur tired, overly sore, not progressing in ur goals.


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I have only recently realized how freakin' critical recovery is. I have worked out for a long time but I never really got into it like I am now. I still am not into it as much as I would like to be or should be to look how I would like to look. It's like I know what to do, its just very hard to stick to the plan and do what you need to do day after day, week after week, but that is what you have to do to get there. No shortcuts and slacking.

 

[crawfBigG]

If u have it all together and only progress w more time out of the gym then that's ur norm. Only u can be the ultimate judge on that.


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True, I need to find that happy medium to maximize gains. I am getting closer, I know that. That's why I love getting info like this, it really helps.