I guess people want to stay out of other countries crap...

[hoyle21]

At the same time I guess you could say I'm conservative because I believe in National Boarders, and while I'm not opposed to multiculturalism, I'm not willing to sacrifice other values to achieve that. For example freedom of religion, woman's rights, human rights, freedom of speech, and separation of church and state.


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[SheriV]

agreed- as much as I don't want someones crap shoved down my throat- I think people with different than my own should be afforded the same peace

Im agnostic- I don't want people shoving their religious views at me AND I would never in a million years tell someone their religious views were false by the same token...except the westboro baptist church- fuck those people
and even that- know what? do what you want in your church- again- dont impose your crap on other people


and more ranting- if people spent even a cpl hrs looking at religious history with even a cursory glance they'd realize most major organized religion crosses and overlaps so much its not even fundamentally different

 

[SheriV]

oh- and I also believe in national borders but recognize its more complex than most people realize, because they just don't want to know- they want to assign blame

 

[SheriV]

I have a good buddy who fought in Fallujah


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Fallujah was an absolute shit show- Tikrit was cake by comparison

 

[heckler7]

personally I dont want us to get involved in shit if we arent going to finish it, and to finish shit in one region before we start shit in another region

 

[heckler7]

russian news says
clinton was paid 250mil by saudis to help with a pipeline thru syria
turkey transported chemical weapons into the region
they claim the attacks were staged since assad has no motive to attack women and children since the war is wrapping up that syrian is winning, this is propaganda

all good points, I think its totally plausible that isis did this to draw america into a war with russia

 

[heckler7]

 

[Swiper]

well there you go we just launched airstrikes in Syria. i'm still not even convinced it was the Syrian government who did that chemical attack. no evidence whatsoever has been presented to the American people. Congress has not even voted to give military action in Syria. but since when do we follow the constitution and declare war anyway

 

[heavyiron]

Assad is going to pay and the libs will shed more tears.......

 

[hoyle21]

Assad is going to pay and the libs will shed more tears.......

Two things....

Libs have wanted Assad removed for a long time, it was the republicans who blocked that. Even Hillary Clinton was talking about removing him earlier today.

The second thing, Assad is Putins boy. If the Russians really do have anything on Trump, it might be fair game now.


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[Swiper]

the good thing is Trump backs up what he says. i have some new found respect for him. it gives the US credibility again especially after obama. although i think we should mind our own business and not get involved.

 

[SheriV]

So weird....the left said..but the children in Syria..got..shut up snowflake...not our problem
Trump says..omg..the children in Syria..does exactly what Clinton of all people said should be done earlier today..Trump does it..the right says ...snowflakes should have done this year's ago...

Even fox news can manage to say...trump is following through with what Obama wanted to do with little success (because-congress)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...get-assad-trump-hearing-military-options.html

And it "lib" tears...jfc ...how brainwashed are you guys?

I'm ready to blow up Russia and assad..maybe let the 5 million or so people that fled Syria go home instead of causing an international crisis of refugees

How bout the kid who got into MIT from Syria and was blocked by the fucking travel ban..holy fuck I'm mad
That managed to pull off an education worthy og admission to MIT while his country was blowing up around him.
I'm gonna go shoot stuff

 

[heavyiron]

Two things....

Libs have wanted Assad removed for a long time, it was the republicans who blocked that. Even Hillary Clinton was talking about removing him earlier today.

The second thing, Assad is Putins boy. If the Russians really do have anything on Trump, it might be fair game now.


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While libs live in fantasy land about Russia, Trump is kicking them in the teeth......

 

[hoyle21]

LOL


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[hoyle21]

I'd like some of the kool aid these guys are drinking.


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[heavyiron]

The fact that Trump is so flexable and can change his mind at a drop of the hat should put real fear into Russia, China and Iran.. Free ride is over........

 

[SheriV]

While libs live in fantasy land about Russia, Trump is kicking them in the teeth......

When heavy?!? When he was practically sucking Putin's dick in the campaign trail? And ignoring literally every red flashing neon sign the Russia hacked not only the dems but the repubs? Holy crap man

 

[heavyiron]

"I will tell you it's already happened that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much," Trump said.
"When you kill innocent children -- innocent babies -- babies -- little babies with a chemical gas that is so lethal, people were shocked to hear what gas it was, that crosses many, many lines. Beyond a red line, many, many lines," Trump said.

 

[SheriV]

Im thrilled he changed his mind! I even accidentally uttwres the words President Trump today...do I have to turn in my lib card? Or can I be about human rights AND want to shoot shit?!?

Also...pissing China off would be a very big mistake for us and pretty much every other country...that has to be handled with terrifying kid gloves...north Korea has gone twenty yrs with no resolution and increasing escalation because China is very fucking scary

 

[SheriV]

"I will tell you it's already happened that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much," Trump said.
"When you kill innocent children -- innocent babies -- babies -- little babies with a chemical gas that is so lethal, people were shocked to hear what gas it was, that crosses many, many lines. Beyond a red line, many, many lines," Trump said.

No shit! We're well aware!! That exact quite is all over CNN ..o just don't get ..why when a "liberal" is offended by the human atrocities inflicted on children in Syria they're an asshole but when Trump is offended (as he should be) he's god?? For doing exactly what Obama wanted to do in 2013?

 

[heavyiron]

No shit! We're well aware!! That exact quite is all over CNN ..o just don't get ..why when a "liberal" is offended by the human atrocities inflicted on children in Syria they're an asshole but when Trump is offended (as he should be) he's god?? For doing exactly what Obama wanted to do in 2013?

We are all offended by it That is where your premise falls apart. I agree you should be offended because it was pure evil. We don't think anyone is an ass for thinking that. You projected that on us incorrectly. Hence your misguided thread.

 

[Swiper]

So weird....the left said..but the children in Syria..got..shut up snowflake...not our problem
Trump says..omg..the children in Syria..does exactly what Clinton of all people said should be done earlier today..Trump does it..the right says ...snowflakes should have done this year's ago...

Even fox news can manage to say...trump is following through with what Obama wanted to do with little success (because-congress)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...get-assad-trump-hearing-military-options.html

And it "lib" tears...jfc ...how brainwashed are you guys?

I'm ready to blow up Russia and assad..maybe let the 5 million or so people that fled Syria go home instead of causing an international crisis of refugees

How bout the kid who got into MIT from Syria and was blocked by the fucking travel ban..holy fuck I'm mad
That managed to pull off an education worthy og admission to MIT while his country was blowing up around him.
I'm gonna go shoot stuff

because of congress?? bullshit obama could have launched a few missiles too. he just didn't have the balls to do it and didn't want deal with the possible consequences with Russia

 

[SheriV]

Go read your own right wing news rag ... Obama has had American forces in Syria for years...but between Congress and the U.N. grumbling about keeping peace with Russia who supplies weapons to the area through Syria there wasn't shit that could be done...know what? Know who gets the award for most action that actually got people fired up? Whatever photojournalist it was that sent the pics to CNN ..that fox was initially afraid to put up..lest people on the right have any idea what these "horrible refugees" have been trying to run away from.

Gtfo with your self righteous horseshit...Im more pissed the Charley has been

 

[SheriV]

And you know what...you win...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...bama-changed-course-on-the-red-line-in-syria/

Obama is a pussy...I hope we flatten Russia...manipulative conniving cunts


I'm pretty sure my answer 6 months ago when I heard about what a great leader Putin was from some of you gentleman..was oh ya...putin is dreamy...supplying weapons to ISIS through syria...fealing in arms trade throughout the middle east..and helping to mortar civilians in syria...that have turned into refugees the right can't possibly allow out of their country

 

[Swiper]

Go read your own right wing news rag ... Obama has had American forces in Syria for years...but between Congress and the U.N. grumbling about keeping peace with Russia who supplies weapons to the area through Syria there wasn't shit that could be done...know what? Know who gets the award for most action that actually got people fired up? Whatever photojournalist it was that sent the pics to CNN ..that fox was initially afraid to put up..lest people on the right have any idea what these "horrible refugees" have been trying to run away from.

Gtfo with your self righteous horseshit...Im more pissed the Charley has been

so your telling me obama couldn't send a few missiles onto an airstrip in Syria? are you fucking kidding me???

 

[SheriV]

I guess you missed the next post where I conceded and posted a link...but fuck off....youre still full of so much self righteous horseshit...these are the dangerous refugees right? Those dead children? Those dead babies the fucking snowflakes want to save?


While you're on your high of self righteousnrss...please tell this child (oh you can't because she brain damaged) and her family they can get healthcare in any emergency room anywhere...and tell her mother to get off her fucking ass and get off of unemployment and stop sucking your resources....

 

[SheriV]

We are all offended by it That is where your premise falls apart. I agree you should be offended because it was pure evil. We don't think anyone is an ass for thinking that. You projected that on us incorrectly. Hence your misguided thread.

Didn't you applaud the travel ban that banned Syrian refugees?!

 

[Swiper]

I guess you missed the next post where I conceded and posted a link...but fuck off....youre still full of so much self righteous horseshit...these are the dangerous refugees right? Those dead children? Those dead babies the fucking snowflakes want to save?


While you're on your high of self righteousnrss...please tell this child (oh you can't because she brain damaged) and her family they can get healthcare in any emergency room anywhere...and tell her mother to get off her fucking ass and get off of unemployment and stop sucking your resources....

i guess you missed my post when i said we should NOT get involved. did you forget to take your ADD meds today?

 

[SheriV]

They wore off like 7 hrs ago


So which is it...Trump is a hero for acting where Obama was a pussy ...or Trump is an asshole for getting involved and dead babies don't bother you.


You know what irritates me? Beyond belief? My entire life..since I was a little kid I have never been able to stand people who can't are d up for what they believe in and think is right..and true to their moral if it goes against the grain..and I also can't stand it when people can't admit fault in anything or only see in total black and white.. You see me admit fault? I did because I know how to..but no one will ever convince me to change my moral core beliefs .
I think inflicting unnecessary and avoidable deaths on people is wrong and I've put my money where my mouth is since I knew how to to attempt to prevent that.

 

[Swiper]

They wore off like 7 hrs ago


So which is it...Trump is a hero for acting where Obama was a pussy ...or Trump is an asshole for getting involved and dead babies don't bother you.


You know what irritates me? Beyond belief? My entire life..since I was a little kid I have never been able to stand people who can't are d up for what they believe in and think is right..and true to their moral if it goes against the grain..and I also can't stand it when people can't admit fault in anything or only see in total black and white.. You see me admit fault? I did because I know how to..but no one will ever convince me to change my moral core beliefs .
I think inflicting unnecessary and avoidable deaths on people is wrong and I've put my money where my mouth is since I knew how to to attempt to prevent that.

i'm saying Obama drew you a redline said there would be serious consequences if it was crossed,it was crossed he did nothing = no respect.

Trump said a redline was crossed and there's going to be serious consequences. so he just blew up their airfield and military base. = respect because he backs up what he says. he's not a phony piece of shit like Obama was in this situation. that is all.

and I don't care what happens in that country. we should mind our own business and take care of our own people in our country.