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Absolutely. Not only has the label changed several times but the formula has also changed. Less carmel to bring down the sugar. Protein apparently has changed as well. (can't give numbers as I don't have the facts) The varying results are exactly based on what you said. They have changed...

The latest info I received from the person who posted when I asked for the report was: "Since my last post on the Detour bar, the formula has been changed by the company several times..All I know at this point is that the sugars have come down somewhat by removing most of the caramel..Protein...

And from what I can see from the link to 1fast400.com.. Mike's report says the sugar is a BIT higher then reported. I can see being off by a gram or two... but there is a pretty big gap between what the Detour label says and Mike's report. And Mike's report coinsides with the one I'm trying to...

Prince, As soon as I find out.. I'll PM you (and Twin Peaks) with whatever info I can find.. if anything at all. I will follow up with this the best I can. I do not eat these bars but I am interested (because I do supplement) in the validity of this claim. I understand the concern. I'll...

Well.. I work in a corporate envrionment (meaning versed in CYA tactics).. I wrote the post so that if it does happen (assuming it will not) that it would be very easy to just point to a # and leave it at that. I just found this thread interesting.. and I found the other post interesting. I...

If I get the fax.. I will most certainly find some way of making it public (so people following this thread can just download it or autorespond from my site.) While my post was solid (thanks!) There can be people who would have skipped the top portion and read the claim and then blasted me for...

Cool link... Even 1fast400.com shows 14g of sugar a bar and yet the label (according to just the product description on the same site) shows 9g. That is a pretty huge difference. Granted the rest of the items are close. But jez. I can see a gram off.. or whatever.. but that kind of...

This appears to be an original post. I PM'ed the person asking for the report as they said they would fax it if asked. So I asked. We'll see. But here's where I got what appears to be the original thread started: http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2623

Detour Bar Lab Results Preliminary Info to Avoid Flames: 1) I checked this thread and did not see any info on this post 2) I'm not making the statement below I found it on another forum and thought it might be useful to the discussion 3) I'm only posting this for discussion purposes, I'm...

I found SportPharma's Nitroxide to be the same in terms of "experience" and about $10 less then most. Honestly, I don't think or believe a muscle pump is going to make muscle or anything the label claims. But it felt good, I was pumped up and excited to workout. So my attitude being on...

Would you say on the stiff leg deadlifts that your knees should be just slightly bent? (agree with the back being straight of course)

I'm using Total Fitness Software for my Compaq Ipaq. It's $11.50 and it meets your requirments listed above. Very nice software. Upgrades are free for life. It works. Affordable and it is an excellent, basic workout and nutritional journal. There is a free trial available...

I hope he gets a couch to match those coushins.

Weighted Crunches Recently read an article that said weighted crunches (lay on the floor, get the rope as close to your head as possible, and put the weight high enough so you can only do 6-8) is the best bet. They were going on the principal that doing hundreds of crunches might make for...

I had that same question. About 16 years ago. I'm 33 now and I never did find a nice basic, sample kinda guide that just says.. here's the supplements that most people think makes a good foundation. I also never found a basic meal plan that was realistic for gaining weight for a guy who...

Second that.. I purchased one that got rave reviews on Amazon.. it consistently measured me at 32% bodyfat. But it was reading the poundages correctly. Tried another hand-held unit.. said it was roughtly 16.1%. Skin calipers measured me around 15%. Needless to say.. I returned that scale...

Even on days off.. you want a positive nitrogen balance. Fueling your body is not just for training days. It's even for the short breaks you take from training. I know you've heard this before, but you don't grow in the gym.. you grow when you are resting. So on your non-training days, you...

I guess anything is possible. But (not ripping on you at all) 5'9", 167lbs is pretty thin. Now you are taking something that will speed up your metabolism when you really don't have that much fat (let me rephrase) you don't really have any fat at all.. So my educated.. GUESS.. is that no...

It is.. especially the part about grilling.. that makes it all the better. Awesome summer recipe for BBQ's and such.

Bump In fact.. when I take a week off from training.. my intake is the same.