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fair enough i do appreciate the help, and i have taken pointers from you guys, i have ditched pretty much all islolation work which i was wrong in doing and yes your logic was write in the sene of compound moves and i will also take on the 5x5 approach for my deads and squats so your time has...

i am going to get rid of my front raises and add another 2 sets of shoulder presses thats personally one exersise (decline) i do like, i have trained for a period without it and period with it a very long period and i honestly think it helped develop my lower chest, i also used to train my...

Okay cheers

i understand that everyone on here pretty much aggres thata re to manys ets etc but i feel my body responds weel to hard intensity as i have said i sued tot rain my chest twice a week and its my best feature, BUT THE PRINCIPLE OF MY ROUTINE IS WHAT I REAALY NEED ADVICE ON, I MEAN AFTER TRAINING...

is the principle of my routine good, i have read a few times it can be good to train up to 15 reps so i have included it, OR IS IT NOT NESSARY AND JUST SHOULD START OFF AT 12 REPS i would just imagine that after heavy hard training 6_8 reps that my muscles would be completely shocked by this...

i might change that thinking about it i am presuming normal shoulder presses hit the side delt more then the arnyu press which hits the front more and less sides what do u think of the trap thing?

thanks juggernuaght i do appreciate your help cuz u have still writen and tried to help me even though we had arguments before lol i have taken aboard your views on isolation exersises being shit ect, but i think a few are helpfull, i personally think i react well to hard intensity training...

okay thanks

true... but anyone have any ideas on the 8th rep scenario even my favourtie juggernuaght?

okay il do pullups as many as i can, what do you think about the 8th rep? iv been training this way for a while now so on compound exercises i plan to follow a pyramid sceme, shud i ignore the 8th rep and try and go for another 10th rep and another 6th rep maybe?

or maybe it will be benificial to miss out that 8th rep and just do 2 6 reps as i have been training at 8 reps for a while?

erm okay il do the deads first then its just that i read somehwre they shud be last cuz your back primary exersies should be your focus

i can only do like 4 pullups, dunno y im shit at them just i think my body doesnt realy work weel with them, guess il just scrap the reverse flys and add another 2 sets of bent over rows iv bin training in the 8 rep range for quite a while now, ocasionally going 2 9 reps, do you think with...

juggernaught man uv got some really bad roid rage, comon u knwo that u love me really :daydream: nah tricep day is a different day :) iv decided to head some of your advice, on my back day im going to get rid of the 1 set of lat spade pulldowns and 3 sets of bench dumbell rows, and going to...

lol i no but i just want a rough estimate so i can build on that i wna make sure my routine is near enough spot on when i start

hi i need a rough estimate for this exersise if i can do 24 kg for 8 reps of normal seated shoulder presses then how much weight do yout think i can do for 12 reps with the arnold press

fuk u juggernuaght your mum licked ass to pay for you, cuz your dad was a fuking cock sucking faggot, like father like son, also your mum is a dirty dirty ass licking whore she licks more asshole thena dog :jerkit:

i also would like to add i do not work on my workout days so i have all the time to rest and recover at home and get the diet right which i feel is an added factor

just find i do not like to train triceps on a chest day as i fell that i cnt give the exerises 100% after all the heavy pushup movements. i can use that extra (5th day) friday to work on my triceps and okay il take mosts people advice and train my biceps once then on a friday for 8 sets...

juggernaught u cock sucking faggot, your mum licked assholes to pay for your food when u was young :)