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I'm 16 days in and have experienced results similar to what JohnnyB has. Obvious fat loss, weight has gone up a bit however. I can sleep all day, its not even funny. I've got the tempurature in my house turned down to 60F, yet when I wake up my shirt and shorts are drenched like I just...

Wasn't Anabolic Matrix being sold somewhere for $18.99 ?

Hopefully someone with experience with insulin or post-cycle IGF use can answer this question. I can only attest to the results I got while on cycle. I was eating like a pig, for real, yet I was losing bodyfat. At the same time, my muscles were growing muscles. This was crazy stuff, I cant...

That is correct. :thumb:

It's not feasible to use it like that unless you limit your cycles to 30 days or less. I have only experimented with this once, about a month and a half ago, at the end of an 8 weeker. I saw stunning results to say the least. I would have started up again by now, but decided to hold off...

Yes I was implying IGF while on cycle. Some people have used it off cycle and liked it, I personally have not yet used it in that manner, though I plan to shortly. IMHO, the results almost made a bulking cycle without IGF-1 look like a waste of gear.

The cost is relatively the same at 40mcg/day. IMO, since you have previous experience with anabolics, I would run the injectable form while on a bulking cycle and compare your gains with IGF-1 as opposed to your previous results without it.

What potential health problems? Muscle growth? Fat loss? :laugh: Seriously though, I have yet to hear of any serious health issues. But I'm sure somebody out there has had a problem with this stuff. If the bubble-gummers found a way to villainize ephedrine, I'm sure they can make IGF out to...

IMO, go with the more proven product. (not the oral) If you're afraid of injecting, don't be. ED injections with a slin pin delts, bis, tris, etc., feel literally nonexistent.

MR has stated the potency of his media grade is 95% compared to the 99% potency of receptor grade.

I ordered 2 kits of the Oral yesterday. For sure I will beat the pots and pans if it is anything close to its advertisements.

I'm sure there are other good companies out there, but I used MR's product for approx. 20 days. Gained muscle at a noticeably better rate while bulking than I have previously without IGF. More importantly, I was eating like there was no tomorrow and it was blowing my mind to see my waistline...

I really can't speculate as to what Bobo's intentions were. I have donated to that site, same as I've donated to this one, and it didn't have anything to do with PM privileges; rather, it was for the tons of things I have learned from guys like Brodus. Glad to see you're posting over here. :thumb:

So I take it there aren't any research sites that carry HCG, since AR isn't around anymore?

Bump that... now is not a wise time to hand your body a caloric deficit.

Okay guys what is this stuff? :hmmm: It was just added to a research chem site and the cost is $2000.00 for a mg :eek: For that price someone has got to know exactly what it is, and if it even does anything for $2000 per mg..sheeesh!

Why not? Considering that a great majority of the weight is fat and water 40 pounds doesn't seem like too far a stretch to me.

:hmmm: Ummm....let me see here.... :hmmm: Are you saying that you don't clean the area of your body that sits on the toilet, gets occasionally spashed with feces contaminated water, and cross contaminated with feces in general before you stick a needle in it? :barf: :finger: shame on you...

Very true. So the question you basically have to ask yourself is are you trying to to move the most amount of weight for that one moment in time, or are you trying to increase your overall strength with each and every training session? If your answer is the latter, then your grip should...

Obviously you don't know who Sergio Olivia was. He was not only a top notch bodybuilder but a top notch power lifter as well with tremendous functional strength. The point being is that you will only ever be as strong as your weakest link. If you really want to up your bench try to focus on...