I'm giving 1-AD a shot. I've got some 4-Derm to go with it; how many sprays do most people use of this stuff when hitting up two capsules a day of 1-AD?
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ATOMSPLTR said:
People all have their preferences
PirateFromHell said:
agreed...if you are going to do it... do it right
kraziplaya said:
"Right" is up to individual decision. I'm doing it "Right" according to the label. "Wrong" apparently by your preference.
Just curious, are you going to be running any sort of PCT?
ST240 said:
I don't know how many times I've gone off on newbies because they hadn't planned any PCT in their cycle. Of course I am running PCT.
musclepump said:
nolva?
ST240 said:
More than likely. When I originally planned on only running the 1-AD, I was going to use 6-OXO, but because I'm stacking with transdermals, I'll probably use Nolva on a descending scale.
musclepump said:
is it possible to get away with 6-oxo when using a 1-ad/4-ad stack?
ST240 said:
Sure. A lot of people get away with it. Just depends on how you're shut down. A lot of people when it comes to PH/PS will only use Nolva on M1T cycles, others are die-hards and use it anytime. Me, I don't like that it's a carcinogen and that I got some eye problems from it, so 6-OXO is appealing. I think the majority of people on this stack simply use 6-OXO.
sup MP
i'd recommend using 4 caps of 1ad a day, and 4-5 squirts of 4ad twice a day
that is the exact cycle i ran for 6 weeks (my first ever cycle), and results were good, no bad side effects, a lil water weight and mild lethargy now and then but it was bearable
i'd recommend using 4 caps of 1ad a day, and 4-5 squirts of 4ad twice a day
that is the exact cycle i ran for 6 weeks (my first ever cycle), and results were good, no bad side effects, a lil water weight and mild lethargy now and then but it was bearable
1-ad shut me down pretty hard....harder than test enanthate..... i suggest a good pct regimen....i used 6-oxo for my pct with 1-ad and i felt shutdown for at least 6 weeks...
kraziplaya said:
Maybe because your dose was higher than suggested
musclepump said:Maybe because your dose was higher than suggested
lol.
When i stacked 1ad/4ad i followed the doses exactly and i made pretty damn good gains.
tapering makes absolutely no sense, upping the dose to 600mg for 2 weeks is simply not long enough to experience any additional benefits, 1ad takes a good 3-4 weeks to get going, hence i wouldn't recommend going under 6 weeks with it, 4 weeks isn't really long enoughCold Iron said:
young d said:
I agree, it should be done longer than 4 weeks, but to say it takes 4 weeks to get going is ridiculous. There isn't any additional benefit from tapering up or down, but its used to see how you react at first. Personally I ended up doing it just based on the limited quantity i had.
PirateFromHell said:
Because I obtained some visual problems with Nolva.
dc96b said:
no
not in the USA, but the raw powders are still freely avaliable over heredc96b said:
what happened??musclepump said:
young d said:
Developed myopia which my eye doc thought was rather strange since it isn't congenital and my eyes otherwise looked healthy except for specific endings in my eye. Had some name for them, not sure what they were. He didn't say it was nolva, but I didn't offer up that I had taken it, either. Maybe they aren't related, but my eyes had always been 20/20 until I took Nolva, then they deteriorated pretty quickly.
shit, so do you need glasses now? is the condition reversable? how long were you on nolva for? and what were the symptoms.. any pains or did you just start to notice trouble reading/seeing things?
strangely my eyesight has improved over the past year or so, but i'm already supposed to wear glasses so i certainly wouldn't want my eyesight to deteriorate anymore, but was pleasantly suprised to find out that isn't the case
strangely my eyesight has improved over the past year or so, but i'm already supposed to wear glasses so i certainly wouldn't want my eyesight to deteriorate anymore, but was pleasantly suprised to find out that isn't the case
young d said:
I have glasses now, yeah. It's not bad enough that I couldn't pass the DMV test so I don't have to wear them while driving, but I don't know that that says much as we have 90 year old women driving without glasses.
I don't think it's reversible, no symptoms, just started seeing things fuzzier than before.
damm that nolva really is some shit, i seriously don't want to run that shit ever again, the side effects of the SERM's are actually of more concern to me than the sides of the AAS