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young d said:
damm that nolva really is some shit, i seriously don't want to run that shit ever again, the side effects of the SERM's are actually of more concern to me than the sides of the AAS
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Like I said, I'm not blaming Nolva as in I'm 100% certain that's what did it, but if it wasn't the Nolva, it was a hell of a coincidence.

AAS I think are definitely safer than the PCT products. But it's like you can't have one without the other. So I'm keeping my eyes peeled for another as-effective PCT product.
 
musclepump said:
Like I said, I'm not blaming Nolva as in I'm 100% certain that's what did it, but if it wasn't the Nolva, it was a hell of a coincidence.

AAS I think are definitely safer than the PCT products. But it's like you can't have one without the other. So I'm keeping my eyes peeled for another as-effective PCT product.
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you would have thought that they would have developed 'safer' alternatives by now, i mean when were these drugs made? back in the 50's or some crap.. decades ago! mind you their purpose was for breast cancer paitents and lowering estrogen, i guess we have AI's which are more effective for that now, the only people really demanding estrogen supression whilst allowing the HPTA to rebalance (hence demanding SERM's) are those of us using AAS for personal/sports use, which is illegal, so i guess we are screwed
 
musclepump said:
I have glasses now, yeah. It's not bad enough that I couldn't pass the DMV test so I don't have to wear them while driving, but I don't know that that says much as we have 90 year old women driving without glasses.

I don't think it's reversible, no symptoms, just started seeing things fuzzier than before.
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That really sucks man...

I always had better than 20/20 vision...
but one day just a couple of years ago I noticed if I close my left eye...
My sight out of the right one is very blurry.
Now I have 20/30 vision together, and I am near-sited with my right eye.

Very wierd...
 
myCATpowerlifts said:
That really sucks man...

I always had better than 20/20 vision...
but one day just a couple of years ago I noticed if I close my left eye...
My sight out of the right one is very blurry.
Now I have 20/30 vision together, and I am near-sited with my right eye.

Very wierd...
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Happen to be taking Nolva anytime around then? :)
 
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