1-Test as compared to M1T

[DOMS]

For the three months that I spent learning about M1T, I found a wide variety of documents and discussions to eventually be able to make a solid conclusion regarding the use, sides, and general effects of M1T. Which, by the way, turned out to be spot on.

Now, hypothetically, let's say I purchased enough 1-Test before the ban to choke a donkey. Hypothetically. Let's say I purchased on the premise that I would use it between cycles of M1T because it's not methylated.

So my question it this: how does 1-Test (transdermally) compare to M1T (orally)? I've read the sticky, "1-testosterone is the 5 alpha reduced version of Boldenone."

1-Testosterone

1-test is the active form of 1AD and is best taken transdermally or sublingually, although oral products suspended in oil with an ether attached also have very good feedback. 1-test is best stacked with 4AD for mass or 1,4andro for cutting.

Oral:
150-300mg when taken in ethergel product in divided doses

Transdermal:
200-500mg daily or more in split doses

Sublingual:
Not sure

What I'm looking for is real world experience.

Thanks for any info!


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[Cold Iron]

What exactly do you want to know?

Comparing them gains wise?

 

[DOMS]

What exactly do you want to know?

Comparing them gains wise?

Yes, I'm looking for compartive info on:

1. Gains
2. Liver stress
3. Sides



I'm also looking for the dosages used and length of cycles.

Thanks.

 

[simbh]

If you're considering 1-test I'd suggest oral 1-test esterfied ... I've seen people have good results with it . As for transdermal , I saw a lot of people saying it's not worth it ... Anyways , wait for some real feedback from users though , this is what I remember from what I've read. Talk to luke if you want some info on 1-test oral esterfied (I think thats the term its ester something , too lazy to go look it up)

 

[Luke9583]

running 1-t between m1t cycles is bad man.

the very worst thing you can do with hormones, is running cycles to close. Ultimately, 1-t will shut you down just as bad (almost at least) as it's methylated version. You will ruin your balls man. Seriously, you'll mess up your libido for months. (NO JOKE)

There are a couple variants of oral 1-t. There are two different versions of esterfied 1-t (that are bonded differently). The ones that I know of are Molecular Nutrition and Nuetrex.

Than there is 1-t powder, which is only good for making your own transdermal (burns like hell I hear ).

As far as the esterfied stuff goes, I can say that lethargy is just as bad as an m1t cycle.

 

[DOMS]

My plan for the next year was to do a cycle of M1T with six-month stretch in between. I though about doing a cycle of 1-Test at the three-month mark and I didn't that that would be too bad for the nads. Am I incorrect?

Thanks.

 

[Luke9583]

My plan for the next year was to do a cycle of M1T with six-month stretch in between. I though about doing a cycle of 1-Test at the three-month mark and I didn't that that would be too bad for the nads. Am I incorrect?

Thanks.

You are correct. Give yourself at least 3-4 months after a PCT, before a new cycle.

 

[MTN WARRIOR]

So one would say that going on a MDIEN cycle right after PCT for a 1test cycle was a bad idea. I know it was. It was all about timing and not caring about the libido. How long do you think I will shut down for. 6OXO has always brought me out b4. I was fine after the 1Test cycle PCT. Wally was standing at attention with no probs.

 

[musclepump]

M1T made me tired as FUCK. We're talking sleeping for ten hours and waking up and wanting to fall over. Good gains, though.

 

[Luke9583]

So one would say that going on a MDIEN cycle right after PCT for a 1test cycle was a bad idea. I know it was. It was all about timing and not caring about the libido. How long do you think I will shut down for. 6OXO has always brought me out b4. I was fine after the 1Test cycle PCT. Wally was standing at attention with no probs.

If you start having problems getting all the way hard after your Mdien cycle's PCT, You'll know what to blame. No joke.

 

[DOMS]

M1T made me tired as FUCK. We're talking sleeping for ten hours and waking up and wanting to fall over. Good gains, though.

How much sleep did you get each night? I found that if I got at least 7 hours (and preferably 8) I was just fine. If I didn't though, the lethargy beat the crap out of me.

 

[musclepump]

I would sleep sometimes ten hours a day and take a twenty to thirty minute nap in the day, and still be tired.

 

[BigB3240]

Is there anything that can help w/ the lethargy while on a cycle of ONLY M1T? Im tryin to find some 4AD but probably wont be able to.

 

[DOMS]

The only that I've heard that helps is 4AD. Keep in my this is the only PH that I've heard that helps. I'm sure that full-blown steroid users use something just as good, if not better. Ask in the Anabolic Zone for a substitute. You might as well, seeing that any PH is just as illegal (and carries the same fines) as possession of AAS.

 

[Tha Don]

1ad, 1t and m1t are all 1-testosterone man, they are all the same drug just in different forms

1-ad is the mildest form as it has to convert
m1t is the strongest form as its 17aa and requires no conversion
1t is in the middle as it dose not have to convert but is not a 17aa (so the absorption rate is no where near as high as m1t)

 

[Tha Don]

Yes, I'm looking for compartive info on:

1. Gains m1t > 1t
2. Liver stress m1t > 1t
3. Sides m1t > 1t



I'm also looking for the dosages used and length of cycles.

1t 6-8 weeks
m1t 3-4 weeks

...

 

[DOMS]

Thanks young d! That was exactly what I was looking for.

One more question: the cycles that you listed for 1-Test and M1T, are they comparable? By that, I mean can you get the same results by doing either cycle?

Thanks again!