11 Oxo/3ad

[ss4vegeta1]

Perhaps some of you heard of these two. Are these steroids?? They say Pro hormones. ????

 

[Flakko]

Steroids? No way!!!
Pro Hormones are banned, so... Nope!
I know 11 oxo isby Ergopharm, so it's just basically a T-Booster. 3AD I don't know but it should be the same thing or similar.

 

[ss4vegeta1]

Thanks for clearing that up Flakko. But would you happen to know if it is natural testosterone?

 

[ss4vegeta1]

Like in PAL Leviathan?

 

[Flakko]

Correction, 11 oxo is a hormone control product not a testosterone booster, based on what I read and my analysis it's suppose to control some type of hormone in your body and increase your strenght, reduce body fat, etc...
IMO do more research or find out if someone you know tried it. A lot of people have good reviews on Ergopharm's 6 oxo, but this 11 oxo is a new one, so I haven't heard anything about it.
The other one 3 AD, I don't know that one.
In this case you question wouldn't apply since this is not a T-booster, it would just basically inhibit some hormone.

 

[emitecaps]

I thought 11-oxo might be like 6-oxo but it isn't. It is mild ph and at a high dose can cause endogenous testosterone production to be suppressed. Apparenetly, though Ergopharm is selling it as a cortisol reducer.

 

[DroppingPlates]

Just adding my 2 cents but there is a huge thread on this over on bodybuilding.com.

 

[nni]

they are both mild ph's that need a mild pct. bad advice.

and prohormones and steroids are the same thing. the only difference is conversion, but at the end of the day they belong in the same category.

 

[quark]

As far as I know AX 3ad isn't even out yet and probably won't be for a while.

 

[FatThumbSupplem]

Steroids? No way!!!
Pro Hormones are banned, so... Nope!

Banned, yes, the originals. You can get the "new" generation legally, for now.