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You want to get big at whatever the cost and you eat less than 200 grams of protein per day?? Bitch pleasehave you ever heard of eating food to get big?
I guess youve never heard of syntha6 or celltech?
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I guess youve never heard of syntha6 or celltech?
longworthb
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Ya calling someone a dumbass is a hell of a way to get help. Ur not gonna last long. I have a feeling your going to get torn apart. Definitely eat more. U should be eating 500-700+ surplus every day atleast. No need to have clomid on hand. It's not used as an ai its used in pct to help get ur natty levels back up. U have nolva so no need for clomid
I have........ But he said he only wants to get big not freakishly huge like jay or ronnie...
thespider12
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i dont think doing one cycle is going to hurt that much i just want ten more pounds on me
you do realize getting a legit 10lbs is not easy right? I know guys that take more shit then me and look like a pile of ass. It is all about diet. Look at allot of those natural guys that are showing great. Learn to get gains from food before you take ANY PH or AAS. what your doing now is arguing with guys that have been there and done that. Why would you risk putting drugs into your body when eating food can get your better results? Once you learn how to gain from eating then look into it. If you say its impossible for you to eat because of your day and time then, honestly that sounds like a fucking excuse. I know many guys who work crazy fucking strict hours that still manage to cram 6k of calories to bulk. It is all about sacrifice and how bad do you want it. If your not willing to do it properly then dont do it at all.
mr.giggles
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10lbs that can added from increasing your calorie intake.. You eat like a 10 year old eats.. You need more food..
You are not ready. No one here being serious is going to approve your impatience and ignorance. Stop posting and start eating. How much do you even weigh?
Diet, learn to diet. Repeat this until you understand it.
Eat good food, log it, and learn what is good, what is crap, and what you should be taking in.
Get proper supplements and know what your planning on taking in a general sense, at the very least before asking about it.
Proper PCT, your young and without proper PCT you could be setting yourself up for big troubles.
Don't be an idiot. Gains now ain't worth shit later if you destroy your body now, but your only a child and you don't realize what could happen (even though you say you don't care, I'm sure you will). Most messing with stuff at your age are having to stick themselves a least once a week for the rest of their life. Risk vs reward, use your brain your future wife will thank you.
This is what a serious person would do, at a minimum. Good luck.
Eat good food, log it, and learn what is good, what is crap, and what you should be taking in.
Get proper supplements and know what your planning on taking in a general sense, at the very least before asking about it.
Proper PCT, your young and without proper PCT you could be setting yourself up for big troubles.
Don't be an idiot. Gains now ain't worth shit later if you destroy your body now, but your only a child and you don't realize what could happen (even though you say you don't care, I'm sure you will). Most messing with stuff at your age are having to stick themselves a least once a week for the rest of their life. Risk vs reward, use your brain your future wife will thank you.
This is what a serious person would do, at a minimum. Good luck.
Vandrandelik
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You won't be satisfied with a 10 pound gain. I've weighed 138 lbs since I was 15 years old until recently. I tried from 15 to 23 to gain weight, trying all products, supplements and mass gainers. I have an extremely high metabolism and I have Gluten and lactose intolerances, IBS and acid reflux, so I am also extremely Limited in what foods I can eat.
For the last 3 weeks I've been supplementing Herbalife24 Products along with Gaspari Nutrition Real Mass Probiotic series. I take in 1300-1800 calories from shakes a day. and 1000 about from food, I also consume Kombucha (probiotic tea) to help absorption and keep things moving along in my intestine. I take L glutmine before and after workouts with my shakes.
I drink a gallon of water a day or more, I just keep slamming water all the time, our body is over 90% water, so that should be make a lot of sense!
I consume about 400g of carbs or more a day, and 150g minimum of protein. On workout days i make sure I have my 2000 calories and 300g of carbs before the workout, and I take a preworkout with Arginine and creatine.
In 3 weeks i have gained 12 pounds! I am now 150 pounds, and i never even dreamed I could have weighed this much.. and I'm not satisfied. My goal is 180 by the end of this year. I'm an even harder gainer than YOU!!! So you can do this.
It's also about doing the right workouts.
I'm 6'2" at 150 pounds now. where i used to be 6'2" at 138 pounds just 3 weeks ago. You can look at my pictures to see. Eccentrics styled workouts have given me more size than I could've hoped for, and I didn't know what eccentrics were until a buddy showed me.
A lot of my routines are taken from Arnold's encyclopedia of body building
a 30 year old book my father has had, but I'm sure you can still buy it. "winning Bodybuilding: by Franco Columbo is another book I am taking my workouts from.
I do 5-10 minutes cardio, 10 minutes active stretching, 10 minutes of arm/shoulder warmups and regular stretches.
For workouts, I do 3 sets. For example my close leg-leg press I start out with 175 pounds first set of 12. then 225 2nd set at 8. Then 3rd set at 300 pounds at 6 times. Then I do a "burnout" where i do as many as I can at a lower rate until i can't do anymore at all. you ALWAYS want to hit failure.
My total workout time doesn't exceed 1 hour and 30 minutes.
I have a friend helping me with form and he's never seen anyone gain weight as fast as I have....when I've had a failed history of trying to gain weight.. and I even considered taking steriods.... Members on this website told me not to take roids and convinced me that I just need to eat more and train harder.
If I can do it all natural, you can do it too.... I still look skinny as all hell, but I'm 12 pounds more than I've ever been in my entire life and I love it.
For the last 3 weeks I've been supplementing Herbalife24 Products along with Gaspari Nutrition Real Mass Probiotic series. I take in 1300-1800 calories from shakes a day. and 1000 about from food, I also consume Kombucha (probiotic tea) to help absorption and keep things moving along in my intestine. I take L glutmine before and after workouts with my shakes.
I drink a gallon of water a day or more, I just keep slamming water all the time, our body is over 90% water, so that should be make a lot of sense!
I consume about 400g of carbs or more a day, and 150g minimum of protein. On workout days i make sure I have my 2000 calories and 300g of carbs before the workout, and I take a preworkout with Arginine and creatine.
In 3 weeks i have gained 12 pounds! I am now 150 pounds, and i never even dreamed I could have weighed this much.. and I'm not satisfied. My goal is 180 by the end of this year. I'm an even harder gainer than YOU!!! So you can do this.
It's also about doing the right workouts.
I'm 6'2" at 150 pounds now. where i used to be 6'2" at 138 pounds just 3 weeks ago. You can look at my pictures to see. Eccentrics styled workouts have given me more size than I could've hoped for, and I didn't know what eccentrics were until a buddy showed me.
A lot of my routines are taken from Arnold's encyclopedia of body building
a 30 year old book my father has had, but I'm sure you can still buy it. "winning Bodybuilding: by Franco Columbo is another book I am taking my workouts from.I do 5-10 minutes cardio, 10 minutes active stretching, 10 minutes of arm/shoulder warmups and regular stretches.
For workouts, I do 3 sets. For example my close leg-leg press I start out with 175 pounds first set of 12. then 225 2nd set at 8. Then 3rd set at 300 pounds at 6 times. Then I do a "burnout" where i do as many as I can at a lower rate until i can't do anymore at all. you ALWAYS want to hit failure.
My total workout time doesn't exceed 1 hour and 30 minutes.
I have a friend helping me with form and he's never seen anyone gain weight as fast as I have....when I've had a failed history of trying to gain weight.. and I even considered taking steriods.... Members on this website told me not to take roids and convinced me that I just need to eat more and train harder.
If I can do it all natural, you can do it too.... I still look skinny as all hell, but I'm 12 pounds more than I've ever been in my entire life and I love it.
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Oh my god....; dude Epi is not going to give you 10 Ibs of mass, & certainly not 10 Ibs of solid muscle, Epi is garbage.. especially at such a low dose...; you are going to eat those Epi caps, & I bet you won't notice even a LITTLE difference in your body.
Even if you ran Superdrol, & threw on 10 Ibs, you would piss out the 10 Ibs a week into PCT with that diet.
Everything anyone says on this thread is irrelevant due to the fact that any cycle won't provide any gains for you if you can't even get big without hormones; Dude Idc if you think your genetics are bad, I started out with less than 10 inch arms, and I weighed 128Ibs...;
Hell, when I was 18, I didn't even diet, eat a calorie surplus, consume protein, or anything, & I put on a ridiculous amount of fat-free muscle just because I was infatuated with training.
Go ahead, you're going to do what you want regardless of what anyone here says, so drink loads of eggnog, eat pizza, run a filthy bulk, & see what becomes of whatever cycle you run; I promise you're going to gain a 1/16 of what you expect to gain, & you'll probably blame the authenticity of the hormones you buy, when in all actuality, it's just you. Just my slice of pie.
But hey, at the end of the day............
Even if you ran Superdrol, & threw on 10 Ibs, you would piss out the 10 Ibs a week into PCT with that diet.
Everything anyone says on this thread is irrelevant due to the fact that any cycle won't provide any gains for you if you can't even get big without hormones; Dude Idc if you think your genetics are bad, I started out with less than 10 inch arms, and I weighed 128Ibs...;
Hell, when I was 18, I didn't even diet, eat a calorie surplus, consume protein, or anything, & I put on a ridiculous amount of fat-free muscle just because I was infatuated with training.
Go ahead, you're going to do what you want regardless of what anyone here says, so drink loads of eggnog, eat pizza, run a filthy bulk, & see what becomes of whatever cycle you run; I promise you're going to gain a 1/16 of what you expect to gain, & you'll probably blame the authenticity of the hormones you buy, when in all actuality, it's just you. Just my slice of pie.
But hey, at the end of the day............
