25g pins

[TrojanMan60563]

I've knocked those that use 25g pins in many threads. I ordered some from GPZ and tried them out this week. Shot test cyp in left quad and deca in the right. Still ended up with the minor sore muscle a day later in my left leg and yet to know about deca soreness since I just did it. I will say its harder to push the oil through and I can't imagine doing a glute shot requiring so much plunger pressure. However it was VERY sweet for these quad injections and probably any other spot injection where dexterity is not a concern. The initial stick was painless and I don't seem to have my quad muscles twitching nearly as much compared to using 22g needles. So I take it back that it can't be done. I do have some 1.5" 23g I will try in glutes that will ideally replace the 22g I have been using. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to trying these 29g slin pins when I have the interest in doing more spot injections where a big needle wouldn't be fun.

 

[Z499]

all i use are 25g, unless im spot pinning, just shot some NPP in right tri this morning. i would say pushing test prop or NPP through a 29g is about the same as pushing deca or any long ester through a 25g.

 

[independent]

All i use is 27g, the key to using smaller pins is using a 1ml syringe. The smaller diameter syringe barrel creates more pressure thus making the oil easier to push.

 

[njc]

Somebody help me understand why you would use anything larger than a 25g??

 

[independent]

Somebody help me understand why you would use anything larger than a 25g??

Only to draw with imho.

 

[Z499]

yup^^^^^

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I actually like using larger pins. The amount of effort I put into squeezing the plunger would be much too difficult one handed to use a 25g in the glutes. I think I can live with the 25g pins in areas where amazing dexterity isn't an issue such as quads. I might look into smaller barrels to see if they improve injecting speed/effort.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Drawing 18 and pinning 24 for me.

 

[s2h]

i used 22g pins for years..hindsight i think i maybe should have switched to smaller ones long ago..scar tissue build up has gotten worse over the last few years..i'm not gumbie so that limits my avenues for injection..still use 25g now but have gone to 1 1/2 inch pins and have to stick it all the way in to get past the scar tissue..once it makes that crack/pop noise and gets easier to push i know im thru..something to think about for those who want to or will pin for life..

 

[TrojanMan60563]

i used 22g pins for years..hindsight i think i maybe should have switched to smaller ones long ago..scar tissue build up has gotten worse over the last few years..i'm not gumbie so that limits my avenues for injection..still use 25g now but have gone to 1 1/2 inch pins and have to stick it all the way in to get past the scar tissue..once it makes that crack/pop noise and gets easier to push i know im thru..something to think about for those who want to or will pin for life..

I need to maybe buy some of the 1cc barrels and see if that helps push the gear through the smaller pins. I just can't imagine doing a glute shot and pushing that hard on the plunger. I'm not so worried about the time it takes to inject but when I do a glute shot my hand is in a weird bend up position that leaves me with little strength in my hand to push the plunger down. The other issue is with 1cc barrels I'd have to load multiple pins. The guys using slin pins have my interest for spot injections. I imagine that small painless needle makes bi and chest injections real comfortable.

 

[mkoldus]

I switched over entirely to 25 gauge. It makes you shoot the oil smoother. Also injection site is non existent. I also warm the oil before.

 

[independent]

I need to maybe buy some of the 1cc barrels and see if that helps push the gear through the smaller pins. I just can't imagine doing a glute shot and pushing that hard on the plunger. I'm not so worried about the time it takes to inject but when I do a glute shot my hand is in a weird bend up position that leaves me with little strength in my hand to push the plunger down. The other issue is with 1cc barrels I'd have to load multiple pins. The guys using slin pins have my interest for spot injections. I imagine that small painless needle makes bi and chest injections real comfortable.

Yes the only downside of a 1ml syringe is the volume, i never go over 1ml per inject so its not an issue. The best 1ml syringe is the BD with the luerlock tip. They are not cheap though, $50.00 for a case of 100.

 

[s2h]

I need to maybe buy some of the 1cc barrels and see if that helps push the gear through the smaller pins. I just can't imagine doing a glute shot and pushing that hard on the plunger. I'm not so worried about the time it takes to inject but when I do a glute shot my hand is in a weird bend up position that leaves me with little strength in my hand to push the plunger down. The other issue is with 1cc barrels I'd have to load multiple pins. The guys using slin pins have my interest for spot injections. I imagine that small painless needle makes bi and chest injections real comfortable.

slin pins work..you just need to get the 1 inch ones if you can find em..and pick lean areas..glutes isnt the best choice with those..stuff like delts..chest..traps and tri/biceps work better..thou i have never been much on chest injections..just kinda feels weird..

 

[s2h]

only issue i have found with 1cc barrels is if you get the detachable pin tips..if you dont get that little baby on tight and you start pushing to hard it will pop off..and you will squirt your shit all over the floor..not good>>

 

[independent]

only issue i have found with 1cc barrels is if you get the detachable pin tips..if you dont get that little baby on tight and you start pushing to hard it will pop off..and you will squirt your shit all over the floor..not good>>

Thats why i recommend the ones with the luerlock tip.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

slin pins work..you just need to get the 1 inch ones if you can find em..and pick lean areas..glutes isnt the best choice with those..stuff like delts..chest..traps and tri/biceps work better..thou i have never been much on chest injections..just kinda feels weird..

I'd have to assume most pros are using long esters and rotating their injection sites. Given they are so thick I assume they can pin almost any muscle with little worries. I'd like to know how they avoid scar tissue build up that so many people speak of. There has to be a trick otherwise these guys would be miserable.

 

[jay_steel]

They dont PRO's are just at that level off commitment that scare tissue is the last of their concern. Most of them are on so many other medications its unbelievable, just to be able to function weighting 300lbs in the off season. Most of them probably get pinned by their trainer and rotate calve, bi, chest, trap, lat, chest, glute, quad and ect. You can pin three sections in your quad if its built enough. I pin my tear drop with 1 CC all the time.

I used 23g until i did my primo cycle. That cycle mind fucked me because i ran a gram of primo and a gram of test... That was allot of pinning to do any it became a game of being mentally strong pinning EVERY day with a 23... Now all I pin with is 1 inch 25g... My glutes are lean enough to use a 1 inch no prob. But i mostly pin quad, hip, shoulder, chest.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

They dont PRO's are just at that level off commitment that scare tissue is the last of their concern. Most of them are on so many other medications its unbelievable, just to be able to function weighting 300lbs in the off season. Most of them probably get pinned by their trainer and rotate calve, bi, chest, trap, lat, chest, glute, quad and ect. You can pin three sections in your quad if its built enough. I pin my tear drop with 1 CC all the time.

I used 23g until i did my primo cycle. That cycle mind fucked me because i ran a gram of primo and a gram of test... That was allot of pinning to do any it became a game of being mentally strong pinning EVERY day with a 23... Now all I pin with is 1 inch 25g... My glutes are lean enough to use a 1 inch no prob. But i mostly pin quad, hip, shoulder, chest.

I think you can pin your quads in the same muscle but move around to different areas of it. I always go to the sweet spot on my quads because when I don't I seem to get a lot of twitching and pushing it in I sometimes bump into what I assume are nerves. It doesn't feel good. I would like to get to where I can pin a few spots on my quads since they are so easy to do. I wish I had friends in person that are good at site injections so I could watch where they put them and help me locate the ideal spots on my body. Its a bitch being a science experiment.

 

[jay_steel]

slin pins in the quads bro...MONEY!!! or 25g on inch... I go slow, this way you can feel the twitch before it hits hard and i will pull back slightly and push back in and NEVER get twiches.. My quad would jump in the air if i slam it in like i do the rest of my body.

 

[chocolatemalt]

slin pins in the quads bro...MONEY!!! or 25g on inch... I go slow, this way you can feel the twitch before it hits hard and i will pull back slightly and push back in and NEVER get twiches.. My quad would jump in the air if i slam it in like i do the rest of my body.

I've been doing exactly that. I'll re-poke several times if necessary... quads make me fucking nervous.

 

[jay_steel]

not repoke, just pull back a tad bit if you feel a nerve. Not out just like a cm. That is enough really to push back and miss the nerve. For me once its in its in, unless i have blood during aspiration.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

When I run into a nerve or whatever makes my muscle twitch and feel that zap I slow down and wait and push very slow and it usually goes in. Once in I can still feel the twitching but no pain. Its annoying as fuck but I guess that is the nature of quad injections.