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6 week Halo Extreme Cycle log

Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
DAY 4

Well i have been up for a few hours, ive eaten some food and had some water... Took my weight 170.2lbs... So i am up for sure because i have not eaten a couple pounds of food already today.. 4 days in and im up 4-5 pounds?!! Wtf? Lol i had back pumps this morning pretty bad, also every time i wake up i am EXTREMELY TIRED.. Still even after 9 hours of sleep i feel exhausted. Lathargy and back pumps 4 days in? Is this possible? I think this shit is just hitting me hard as an ox!! I love it cause i know its working. If back pumps get to bad i will add taurine to my daily intake.. Also i have heard DHEA can help with lathargy?? What are some opinions on that? Anyways, guna take today off,, my abs, back, shoulders, and tris are all sore.. Just guna rest up and eat like king kong today.. Tomorrow will be legs and abs...
 
DAY 4

Blood pressure is 130/80 while pulse rate was at 65...

Weight:172.8
BMI: 24.8
BF: 14.1%
Hydration Index: 4.3
 
Up your water intake. It can help with the pumps and lethargy. Also if that doesn't help get more potassium in your diet. It helps me with the pumps
 
Thanks LongworthB,, i will add more water and bananas!!!! I had no bananas in ny diet.. Im tripping.. Im actually goin to hut legs tonight in a bit. I goto a 24hour gym.
 
DAY 6

I upped my Hawthorne Berry, saw palmetto and milk thistle and the headaches are gone,,, still a little lethargic but not as bad.

weighed 170.3 when i woke up...

killed my arms, back, and shoulders today.. Lifts have gone up by a couple pounds.. Also increased my bcaa intake.. Seems to be helping with recovery..
 
Nothing amazing to report,, back is 110% killed from yesterdays workout.. Deadlifts did it to me..

Today is legs... Guna go as hard as i can.. Eating like an animal... Tired as fuck right now
 
DAY 7

Hit legs for almost an hour... Ended up getting a headache,, i think it was just cause i was hitting it so hard. Just weighed in at 171.7lbs... Feel nice and full.
 
DAY 7

Added glucosemine to the regimine.. Helps with the dry gains..still tired as fuck right now after 7 1/2 hours sleep.. Blahhhh
Chest, tris and abs in the morning after work...
 
DAY 8

Im going to actually take the day off. I havent had a rest day in almost a week and a half.. Gunna lay it down an get sum good rest and eat a bunch..tomorrow will be chest, tris and abs..weighed in at 170.5
 
DAY 9

Lifts and endurance are slightly increasing. Did chest and tris today. The lethargy is pretty bad when i first wake up but 2 hours afterwards im good to go. Slight headache when i woke up today. Nothing manor to report.. Weight is still floating around 170... Blood pressure is fine.... Not sure what im going to hit tomorrow. Will see how i feel.
 
What's up guys? First I want to thank Adrenoline for helping me put this cycle together, great dude there.

STATS:

28 years old, been in the gym seriously for 5 years. 166lbs @ 13.3% BF. 5'11

My goals for this cycle are to lose some BF and to gain at least 8lbs. I will be hitting the gym 5 days a week days 6&7 will be cardio. And the days won't be consecutive, just going to go on how I feel.

I will be dosing the Halo at 75mg ED. I have all my support supps,, glucosamine, GNC Megamen sport multi vitamin, triple omega-3 oil, krill oil, advanced cycle support IML, milk thistle, Hawthorne berry, saw palmetto, coq10, etc..

My pct will consist of Clomid 100/50/50/25/10 as well as IML e-control, ultra male, d-aspartic acid, and possibly erase if needed. I also have letrozole on hand in case of Gyno.

I will post some before pics soon. As of right now I am going to start preloading milk thistle, hawthorne berry, and saw palmetto for a week and then I will commence the cycle!!!! Any questions, advice, or input of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Don't you mean two capsules of Halo a day? It's some potent stuff and I take only one or two a day depending on the routine for that day. Everything else is fine.
 
DAY 8

Im going to actually take the day off. I havent had a rest day in almost a week and a half.. Gunna lay it down an get sum good rest and eat a bunch..tomorrow will be chest, tris and abs..weighed in at 170.5

A week and a half? You know that is detrimental to your progress, not beneficial, right? At your arge of development (170 lbs) you need to be using utilizing a very basic routine using ONLY the primary mass-builders and training no more than 3-4 days per week. Why train more at this point in time when you don't require more than 3-4 days to train your entire body (assumming you are performing the correct amount of exercises and only moderate valaume)? All excessive training willl accomplish is impairment of recovery.
 
Your intake of water wasn't mentioned in amounts....get a 1 gallon jug and carry it around...drink 1 and a half jugs of water ed...and cut the training back to 4 days a week....ensure your diet is lower in sodium..ie no processed foods or heavy salting...your issues all seem to lean towards lack of hydratiation and excessive sodium intake....I'm the king of high blood pressure and halo-e doesn't effect mine at all...
 
Don't you mean two capsules of Halo a day? It's some potent stuff and I take only one or two a day depending on the routine for that day. Everything else is fine.

Nope, I am taking 3 a day ED for 6 weeks,,, even on my off days. 3 capsules equals 75mg
 
Good idea about start cycles. just try to use guidance as per stuff. i am excited for great result of this cycles. so please post your pictures.

Thanks bestbody, yes I am very excited too, I am on a great routine and have everything in line to make the best of this. I will get pics up this weekend. Thankssss
 
Nope, I am taking 3 a day ED for 6 weeks,,, even on my off days. 3 capsules equals 75mg

If gains stall you can always bump it up to 4 ed. I've ran it at 4 a day a couple of times with good results. The fat loss at that dose was accelerated nicely.

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A week and a half? You know that is detrimental to your progress, not beneficial, right? At your arge of development (170 lbs) you need to be using utilizing a very basic routine using ONLY the primary mass-builders and training no more than 3-4 days per week. Why train more at this point in time when you don't require more than 3-4 days to train your entire body (assumming you are performing the correct amount of exercises and only moderate valaume)? All excessive training willl accomplish is impairment of recovery.

I see where you are coming from, although 3-4 days a week never seemed adequate enough for me. I totally understand my muscles and endocrine system need time to recover from each workout. I don't follow ANYONE'S routine, I goto the gym accordingly to how my body feels. However, I do take some of the ideas people input into their routines. In the week and a half that i have not had an off day, some of the workouts were not even proper workouts, more like just getting some exercise for the day. Thank you for your concern though and I will 100% take your input into consideration, I do agree I may be going a little to hard lol
 
Your intake of water wasn't mentioned in amounts....get a 1 gallon jug and carry it around...drink 1 and a half jugs of water ed...and cut the training back to 4 days a week....ensure your diet is lower in sodium..ie no processed foods or heavy salting...your issues all seem to lean towards lack of hydratiation and excessive sodium intake....I'm the king of high blood pressure and halo-e doesn't effect mine at all...

Yea s2h, I think you hit that right in the head. I'm currently taking in around 3/4 of a gallon a day. The only problem I have with drinking so much water is that when it comes time to eat I have no room from all the freakin water lol. I'm guna go get a gallon jug on my way to the gym this morning and try your advice and see if I can intake the same amount of food with the gallon and a half today. Although today I feel GREAT!!!!!!!!! I think the headaches may have been my body getting used to the halo???? Not sure if that's the case but I really do feel good today..which is DAY 10 of my cycle..I'll watch the sodium too.. Thanks bro, I appreciate the sound advice
 
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IronMag Labs Prohormones
If gains stall you can always bump it up to 4 ed. I've ran it at 4 a day a couple of times with good results. The fat loss at that dose was accelerated nicely.

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lol fuck yea,,, I'm guna stick to 3 a day lol but yea man, I've read logs of people hitting up to 150mg a day so at 75mg I'm good an safe..
 
DAY 10

Weighed in at 172.5!!! Nice,,,, I was pretty lethargic when I first woke up, I'm good to go now, also no headaches today, so that's great! Going to make today an ab day. Probably also guna take a 2 mile jog with my dog.. Need to get that fat bitch outside.
 
DAY 10

Also wanted to add that my muscles are a lot more dense and harder since I started the cycle... Defiantly noticeable...
 
DAY 11

took day 10 off. Drank bcaa ate souch food i weighed in at 175.6 before i went to bed.. Waking up i weighed in at 170.1.... That should give u an idea of how much food/water i intake and hkw fast my metabolism is...guna hit arms, back, traps and abs today...I feel great,, no headaches, lethargy is backing off..
 
DAY 11

killed it in the gym... Hit 6 exersizes 3 sets each for biceps and the same for my back..including deads..lifted heavy on every exersize and did most of them till failure..

Feel really good,, sort of sluggish at the beggining of the days but for the most part i think all the lethrgy and headache shit are subsiding.. May have been my body just getting used to all the supps and halo or could be going away because i upped my hawthorne berry and cycle support shit... Either way i feel good and hard..libido is stiil rockin..
 
DAY 11

killed it in the gym... Hit 6 exersizes 3 sets each for biceps and the same for my back..including deads..lifted heavy on every exersize and did most of them till failure..

Feel really good,, sort of sluggish at the beggining of the days but for the most part i think all the lethrgy and headache shit are subsiding.. May have been my body just getting used to all the supps and halo or could be going away because i upped my hawthorne berry and cycle support shit... Either way i feel good and hard..libido is stiil rockin..

I say this with all due respect, but maybe you SHOULD start following someone elses routine. Why? Because it is BLATANTLY obvious that this instinctive training you do, in which you train according to how you "feel", is completely fucking wrong!

Let me ask you a question, is the primary reason you train just because you like to go into the gym and bust your ass....or is it to make gains? If your answer is the latter, then you need to re-work your ENTIRE approach to training. You need to learn HOW to train to make progress...because you do not. You say that you "might" have gone a little overboard after training for 10 days straight. There is no not fucking "might" about it. How you "feel" doesn't mean a fucking thing...and you want to know how I can prove that? Look at your results! You have made some of the WORST progress I have ever seen for someone who has been training "seriously" (your words) for 5 years at 28 years old! You started this cycle in the mid-160's at 5'11...and that was AFTER 5 years of SERIOUS training!!!! Are you fucking kidding me? Even though the proof of your failure is starting you right in your face...No, it has been beating you in the face for years...you are still not at the point where you are ready to make a change. You have now had at least 2 guys in this thread, who together probably have about 50 years of experience in this thing called BB'ing, give you very sound advice about how frequently you should be training. This advice is readily accepted by pretty much every "expert" in the world for someone who is at your stage of development (which is raw beginner in terms of development), yet you say you will take their advice "into consideration" when it comes to your MASSIVE overtraining? NO...don't take shit into "consideration"...just fucking do it...unless, your main priority is not gains, but training just for the hell of it.

Isn't it brutally obvious that training according to how you 'feel" has led you astray? Don't even begin to blame your genetics either, because that is NOT the reason why you were only 166 lbs after 5 years of serious training. 18 sets ro failure for your biceps? how big are your arms? 15 inches? Do you REALLY think this 5 year "feel" program has been good to you? Your entire belief system is wrong. You need to start over from scratch, throw out everything you think you know, and learn how to eat & train for growth. If you had been doing things correctly when you started 5 years ago (and we don't even know how many years you may have been in the gym before you started "serious" training), you would have been bigger after only 6 months of training than you are now. In fact, many guys, when they know what they are doing, will add between 25-40 lbs of mostly lean mass in the their first 6 months of serious training. When I first began training "serious" at age 22 I jumped from 167 lbs @ 6'1 to 208 lbs....in 12 WEEKS! that is 41 mostly fat-free pounds. All drug-free, by the way. Why was I able to do this? I sure as fuck did not train according to how I felt, I trained according to what I needed....according to the tried & true principles that have been demonstrated to work for guys at my level of development for decades.

Regarding this whole "feel" thing (also called instrinctive training), the truth is that you do not have the ability to use the instinctuve trauning principle proplery (obviously)....and for some guys it never really serves them well, but for those who do implement it successfully, they typically have already reached an impressive level of development. In other wors, they already look like a BB'r. Before you can learn to train instrinctively, your body needs to know what proper training is...because it is only after years of doing things correctly, that you begin to pick up on the subtle clues your body sends you. Instrinctive training doesn't mean one day you walk into the gym and your body tells you that doing 50 sets would be bettr than the 12 sets you had previously planned on. Instrinctive training doesn't tell you that you should train 10 days in a row...because when you are TRULY hearing from your physical body (not your fantasy mind), it will never lead you to make changes that will harm your progress or lead you astray in any way. When you hear correctly, the changes will always be beneficial. You are nowhere even close to that point. What you do I follow your "mind's" thoughts, which does not necessarily have anything to do with what your muscular, nervous, or endocrine systems need, etc.

If you truly care about maximizing your progress more than you care about having "fun" in the gym, then you will begin a serous inspection into the massive amount of errors which are strewn throughout your program....and correct them. There is no reason for such a fucked up head of false beliefs after 5 years of training, especially because you are involved in the BB'ig community. You are making some of the same mistakes beginning BB'rs were taught to avoid for the last 20 years.

This post may have seemed harsh, but I am only thinking abou you. If you are still doing things this way after 5 years, it is unlikely anything but a kick in the ass will prod you into change.
 
Wow man what a fucking mouthful,,,, all I can say to that is over the last five years I have not eatin nor trained to become a BB. I goto the gym to improve my strength and progress,,, WHCICH I HAVE DONE 100%. 5 years ago I was 130lbs. Today I am weighing in at 171lbs. 5 years to gain 41lbs???? Id say 36 lbs of it naturally...Maybe not quick enough for you but for me I'm fine with it. Every week I am able to add a little more weight to my lifts... Maybe only 2 1/2 pounds but its progress. I'll tell yah what Mike Arnold, I'm going to continue to work out the way I am. You fail to read properly, the 10 days I worked out in a row where not ALL hardcore workouts. Atleast half of them where 30 minute half assed work outs that shouldn't even be considered workouts. So, go fuck yourself with a pineapple for knowing everything about ME u FUCKING FUCK...anymore negative bs and I'm done with this forum..

Like I've said,,, I've had nothing but progress over the last 5 years. Maybe not as quickmas some of you, my routine is what works for me.I feel fucking amazing everyday, I haven't been sick in years. What works for you might not for me and visa versa... So do me a favor and STFU
 
Really though I'm done posting this log on here guys.. I wanted to share my experience with halo my way. Not argue back an forth about who is right and who is wrong... People's bodies are different. End of fucking story. And I'm not overtraining by any means. Either way this log turned into something I could care less about.... Good luck to u guys... IML has great products... Shitty people on the forums though..
 
Ps,,,, yesterday I did 6 diff exercises for biceps, 6 different exercises for shoulders and 6 diff exercises for back... 3 sets on every exercise... Was in the gym for 1 hour 25 minss... Still not sore... Maybe back is a little. I have great conditioning and endurance, so my body type requires extreme training..most all sets were done to failure also..anyways c ya guys
 
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