about to place my first order.

[tommyel]

I am probably going to place my first order through the international line. I hope it makes it into the US w/o problems.
NOTE: This is my first cycle ever!

Z-Int Line
2x 250mg/ml 10ml vial Test E
1x 50mg - 50 tabs Clomid
1x 20mg - 50 tabs Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)

Another Source
1x 25mg/ml 60ml bottle Exemestane (Aromasin)

I am 24, 5'9 205 lbs

Weeks 1-10
500mg Test E Weekly
12.5 mg Aromasin EOD (Every Other Day)

Weeks 11-14 (PCT)
Aromasin (25/25/12.5/12.5) Per Day
Clomid (100/100/75/50) Per Day
Nolvadex (25/25/25/25) Per Day

I am a bit confused with PCT. Do I begin after my last pin or 2 weeks after my last pin?

Am I missing anything or doing anything wrong with my cycle? Please Advise. Thank you.

 

[buddhaluv]

PCT exactly 14 days after last pin. & great cycle, mine is practically identical.

& no worries, if it could go through Canadian Customs it would definitely go through US. If your worried ask Z to make it extra discrete.

 

[ordawg1]

Decent first cycle-I would still run Dbol or maybe sust. Just sayin

 

[SCAGNETTI]

Hey Guys, stocking up on some Z int'l gear myself. Will keep you guys updated.
Second run with the good Uncle.

-Scagnetti

 

[GH Consigliere]

Ur in great hands!!

 

[Repo]

That's a great first cycle - just a few minor adjustments.

I would extend it to 14-16 weeks (at least 14).

If money is an issue - I would place the order - start planning your next cycle and add another vial of test to complete the cycle.

You should have it with plenty of time - worst case you end up running your 10 week cycle.

You really shouldn't run Aromasin throughout the cycle - not unless you start to see gyno.

However - you should run Aromasin at 25 mg everyday - "during SERM treatment."

So far - the only adjustment to your order is to add one vial of test.

One last thing...

I strongly recommend adding hcg throughout the cycle.

Many people will say you don't need to run it on your first cycle - but I'll tell you I've had too many people pm me saying they shut them selves down on the first cycle - which was lighter than yours.

You could add two 5000 iu vials from Z's international (very inexpensive) - and you can most likely pick up the rest of stuff needed to mix hcg from the place you are getting your Aromasin - depending on where your getting it from.

These are your balls - small nuts and big muscles is not a good combo to be sport'n around.

I keep hcg at the baseline of every cycle just like test - it's extremely safe long term - I can help you with the mixing and what is needed - it's very simple.

That's what I would recommend.

 

[M4A3]

That's a great first cycle - just a few minor adjustments.

I would extend it to 14-16 weeks (at least 14).

If money is an issue - I would place the order - start planning your next cycle and add another vial of test to complete the cycle.

You should have it with plenty of time - worst case you end up running your 10 week cycle.

You really shouldn't run Aromasin throughout the cycle - not unless you start to see gyno.

However - you should run Aromasin at 25 mg everyday - "during SERM treatment."

So far - the only adjustment to your order is to add one vial of test.

One last thing...

I strongly recommend adding hcg throughout the cycle.

Many people will say you don't need to run it on your first cycle - but I'll tell you I've had too many people pm me saying they shut them selves down on the first cycle - which was lighter than yours.

You could add two 5000 iu vials from Z's international (very inexpensive) - and you can most likely pick up the rest of stuff needed to mix hcg from the place you are getting your Aromasin - depending on where your getting it from.

These are your balls - small nuts and big muscles is not a good combo to be sport'n around.

I keep hcg at the baseline of every cycle just like test - it's extremely safe long term - I can help you with the mixing and what is needed - it's very simple.

That's what I would recommend.

This is fucked up advice. Do not follow it.

14 - 16 weeks for your first cycle is retarded. Stick with the 10 weeks you have planned.

This is also the first person I have ever seen on the forums advocate not running an AI while on cycle.

As I told you before, taking HCG would be a good idea. At least he got that right.

Follow the rest of his advice at your own peril.

 

[D-Lats]

10 weeks is fine everything looks good. On a low dose short cycle an Ai isn't absolutely necessary. You are just going over your natty test secretion so if you have Ai on hand just watch for gyno you will be fine either way. Repo sometimes like the more is better mind set lol!

 

[ordawg1]

10 weeks is fine everything looks good. On a low dose short cycle an Ai isn't absolutely necessary. You are just going over your natty test secretion so if you have Ai on hand just watch for gyno you will be fine either way. Repo sometimes like the more is better mind set lol!

Yeah-I have to watch that " more is better" myself (LOL) But- sometimes you get guys complaining and it is because they did some pussy cycle and they don't get gains and it goes from there. Plus- as many of you know-I am on all yaer so no PCT for this old guy. But- you youngsters need be aware of PCT. Lots of advice from many good guys- just follow what works for YOU and all will be good

 

[D-Lats]

Yeah-I have to watch that " more is better" myself (LOL) But- sometimes you get guys complaining and it is because they did some pussy cycle and they don't get gains and it goes from there. Plus- as many of you know-I am on all yaer so no PCT for this old guy. But- you youngsters need be aware of PCT. Lots of advice from many good guys- just follow what works for YOU and all will be good

Once you get a couple years experience then you can experiment with heavy cycles. For a begginer it can be just too much of a hassle to be pinning all the time, olus they usually only pin glutes so you need a week for each side to recover so to go crazy out of the gate isnt reccomended. My first cycle which i felt was the best ive ever done as far as gains was simply sustanon 250 mg a week for 10 weeks nice and simple!

 

[ordawg1]

Once you get a couple years experience then you can experiment with heavy cycles. For a begginer it can be just too much of a hassle to be pinning all the time, olus they usually only pin glutes so you need a week for each side to recover so to go crazy out of the gate isnt reccomended. My first cycle which i felt was the best ive ever done as far as gains was simply sustanon 250 mg a week for 10 weeks nice and simple!

Yes- indeed- I remember that - I also remember was quite a ride-great advice D ( as always)

 

[crudadillamonkey]

Cycle looks great. And your going with the right source.

 

[Repo]

This is fucked up advice. Do not follow it.

14 - 16 weeks for your first cycle is retarded. Stick with the 10 weeks you have planned.

This is also the first person I have ever seen on the forums advocate not running an AI while on cycle.

As I told you before, taking HCG would be a good idea. At least he got that right.

Follow the rest of his advice at your own peril.

10 weeks is fine for his for his first cycle - however running test for 14 - 16 is not bad if he's doing it right.

You do not need to run an AI during your cycle unless you have signs of gyno or you are gyno pron.

In this case it is his first cycle so he does not know if he is gyno prone - so there is no need to run Aromasin throughout the cycle.

If he was gyno prone - then yes - I would recommend Aromasin throughout the cycle.

If you have solid evidence on the Aromasin subject please provide it?

This is something I also thought needed to be used throughout the cycle until looked deeper into the subject.

Anyone who really knew the subject always recommended not to use it unless needed - or I would not have come our with this recommended.

Go a head and run it - knock yourself out - it's your choice.

 

[tommyel]

Thanks for all of the suggestion guys. What does HCG do? I haven't researched that at all. What do you mean people shut themselves down? As in being lethargic? My friend did many cycles and said he didn't feel tired so maybe it depends on the person.

 

[M4A3]

Thanks for all of the suggestion guys. What does HCG do? I haven't researched that at all. What do you mean people shut themselves down? As in being lethargic? My friend did many cycles and said he didn't feel tired so maybe it depends on the person.

Shut down means that your body has stopped producing natural testosterone. Once you start doing AAS, your body stops producing it's own testosterone, and your balls shrink.

Human chorionic gonadotropin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HCG keeps your balls from shrinking. It won't keep you from shutting down, but it will make it easier for you to recover during PCT; by keeping your balls from shrinking, it will allow you to start producing your own natural testosterone again faster, once you come off cycle.

 

[tommyel]

Shut down means that your body has stopped producing natural testosterone. Once you start doing AAS, your body stops producing it's own testosterone, and your balls shrink.

Human chorionic gonadotropin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HCG keeps your balls from shrinking. It won't keep you from shutting down, but it will make it easier for you to recover during PCT; by keeping your balls from shrinking, it will allow you to start producing your own natural testosterone again faster, once you come off cycle.

Are there pills for this or is it injection only?

 

[tommyel]

This has to raise concern.

This email has been sent to you from MoneyGram Online to notify you that your Transfer initiated on Tue Apr 26 03:38:18 AM CDT 2011 has NOT been approved and has NOT been sent to your receiver.

I sent it twice, both same result.

 

[strategos14]

10 weeks is fine for his for his first cycle - however running test for 14 - 16 is not bad if he's doing it right.

You do not need to run an AI during your cycle unless you have signs of gyno or you are gyno pron.

In this case it is his first cycle so he does not know if he is gyno prone - so there is no need to run Aromasin throughout the cycle.

If he was gyno prone - then yes - I would recommend Aromasin throughout the cycle.

If you have solid evidence on the Aromasin subject please provide it?

This is something I also thought needed to be used throughout the cycle until looked deeper into the subject.

Anyone who really knew the subject always recommended not to use it unless needed - or I would not have come our with this recommended.

Go a head and run it - knock yourself out - it's your choice.

i concur. 16 wks of just test would not be a problem if ran correctly. an AI probably won't be needed but good to have just in case of bloat or if nips get sensitive. in reality, your balls should bounce back in minimal time from this cycle even without HCG, but if you want to ENSURE a quick and full recovery then HCG is fine to go with. too many people go overboard with the AI's and the PCT when their cycles do not warrant it. definitely have proper AI and PCT on hand every cycle because it's better safe than sorry but use as needed like Repo said. at least with a good clean 500mg test e cycle like you're running.

 

[SCAGNETTI]

This has to raise concern.

This email has been sent to you from MoneyGram Online to notify you that your Transfer initiated on Tue Apr 26 03:38:18 AM CDT 2011 has NOT been approved and has NOT been sent to your receiver.

I sent it twice, both same result.

If you can, go in person to an agent for the transfer. I use WU, never had a problem in person, but read many stories about people using the online service then having to call and answer questions about their transfer before it was completed.
Just my .02

-Scagnetti

 

[tommyel]

It was successfully sent in person. I can't wait to receive my gear!

 

[M4A3]

Are there pills for this or is it injection only?

Injection only. But you can shoot it either Intramuscular (IM) or subcutaneously with a insulin syringe.

 

[tommyel]

Probably not an issue but is it okay if I switch off between glutes and thigh muscles or do I need to keep pins to one type of muscle only?

 

[D-Lats]

Probably not an issue but is it okay if I switch off between glutes and thigh muscles or do I need to keep pins to one type of muscle only?

The more spots you pin the better bro if you can hit glutes and quads that's great.

 

[tommyel]

I just got my Exemestane. It creeps me out to see this on the label. Warning: This product is not intended for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research or laboratory use only. This product is not sterile and should not be injected.

Anyone else get products from C H E M O N E Research?
g2g?
Here is a pic of it.
http://i.imgur.com/xkZSR.jpg

 

[M4A3]

I just got my Exemestane. It creeps me out to see this on the label. Warning: This product is not intended for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research or laboratory use only. This product is not sterile and should not be injected.

Anyone else get products from C H E M O N E Research?
g2g?
Here is a pic of it.
http://i.imgur.com/xkZSR.jpg

I've never used them bro, but I know this: if they didn't put that warning on their products and on their website, they couldn't sell you that stuff without a prescription. Just something to think about.

 

[Uncle Z.]

I just got my Exemestane. It creeps me out to see this on the label. Warning: This product is not intended for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research or laboratory use only. This product is not sterile and should not be injected.

Anyone else get products from C H E M O N E Research?
g2g?
Here is a pic of it.
http://i.imgur.com/xkZSR.jpg

Question

Did you get it from me ?

z.

 

[AnabollicA]

That company he's naming is a research chem company. I've used thier products for PCT supplies & cialis and its g2g. It's marketed for research use only so they have to put a dislaimer that it's not for human consumption, so that they can sell it without a prescription (legal loophole). It should be liquid form & you use a oral syringe to dose & injest it with. They usually send you an oral syringe with your order.

 

[tommyel]

I got it from Chemone. Thanks anabollica, I was beginning to get worried but I am glad someone else has tried it.

 

[tommyel]

My aromasin is a thick pink color. How bad does aromasin taste? I can't imagine struggling taking .5ml-1ml of this stuff. That is a tiny amount of liquid and do I take it with water?

 

[faon]

Depending on the source it could taste nasty, with my nasty research cems i just get some water in my mouth and then squirt the cem in my mouth and swallow the water and cem at once it helps, one source's cems taste like crap so it helps, its also pink because they probably color code their cems