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FrankNegrete

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33 years old 5'10 225lbs

test cyp 250 per week

tren ace 50 ed

anavar 50 every day

week 1 and 2 500mg of test per week

week 3-9 test cyp 250 per week tren ace 50ed

week 10 -12 test cyp 250 per week

anavar last 6 weeks of cycle 50 ed

i have been reading to keep test low on tren, please advice will be much appreciated

I have ran test off and on for the past ten years and its the only compound i have ever used
 
First I want to say that plan looks fine. I can say I personally at 33yo dont think I would have ever ran test less than 500mg ew. Less than that is a waste in my opinion. That being said I hear a lot of guys now are running lower test with tren to help with sides. No idea if that works or not. Never worried about it to much cause Tren doesnt bother me much sides wise. What does your PCT look like?
 
I strongly disagree...Ive ran Trem e many times and found great results with low doses...That sweetspot is different for everyone...Tren can be the Devil...I always recommend starting low and slowly bumpping anything new,especially Tren the deztroyer...
 
zionoir626 said:
I strongly disagree...Ive ran Trem e many times and found great results with low doses...That sweetspot is different for everyone...Tren can be the Devil...I always recommend starting low and slowly bumpping anything new,especially Tren the deztroyer...
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I don't understand? Tren A is a totally different animal then the tren E you have ran many times. 50 a day is only 350 a week. Then he is lowering the test to 250 while on tren A. I do the same. I have tried cycles on high amounts of test with tren and also with low test while on tren. I had a much better run on the lower test. I didn't see any advantage to running the test high while on tren. If you read up on it you will find that tren is 5 times stronger than test and it binds to receptors much easier and maintains the bond much longer than test. So the test you take on a tren cycle is just to keep your dick working and make you feel better. No need to waste test.

Looks like you have a decent cycle planned. I am willing to bet money that when you get into it you will wish you would have run it a few weeks longer on both legs of the cycle. But if its your first go at tren then stick to the plan. Also you might not want to commit to an actual amount of tren you take in a week. I hesitate to ever say, "I will take "X amount of tren" because there are a lot of variables the main one being the actual potency of the tren you have. The other is your personal tolerance to the drug. I am pretty tolerant to it. But i have seen guys literally freak out and end up in a psych ward on smaller doses then I run. Some labs I can run as high as 800 a week others 500 is the ceiling.

I guess what i am saying is go slow and see where the sweet spot is, which another huge advantage of Tren A. If you get to much it only takes a few days to right the ship with Tren E your talking weeks to get that shit out of your system.
 
I would agree with some of what u said...Tren is tren,,,tren a or hexa or e...but yes tren e last longer..Yeah, I read the same label,but after several tren cycles, I think only 3 times stronger...who carez? What is true izs everyone reacts differently...and easy doses it on any Tren...1st tren run was 100mg of e a\wk results were great.You must agree more with tren izs not always better...
 
zionoir626 said:
I would agree with some of what u said...Tren is tren,,,tren a or hexa or e...but yes tren e last longer..Yeah, I read the same label,but after several tren cycles, I think only 3 times stronger...who carez? What is true izs everyone reacts differently...and easy doses it on any Tren...1st tren run was 100mg of e a\wk results were great.You must agree more with tren izs not always better...
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Absolutely agree with you.

But I know people that could not handle tren E but do fine on tren A. I think it has to do with the natural ups and downs of the hormone levels when pinning once or twice a week with tren E. If I were to try it I would still pin ED or at least EOD keeping the same MG per week amount I would. EZ does it is correct but the time it takes to correct with the E estered tren is too long you could waste weeks being sick if you went too high.
 
Why go from test only cycles to test/tren? Why skip the other compounds like NPP?
 
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NPP and deca are both nandrolone the difference is the ester. Deca is an extremely long ester that takes forever and a day to build up to where you see/feel any benefit from it. NPP has the Prop ester so it hits in a few days instead of weeks.

Deca is notorious for water weight gain and bloat so if you have any issues with BP I would steer clear. NPP you will gain a little water but nothing that would not be manageable. I love NPP I usually run it at least once a year keeps my joints healthy and is great for bulking.

Deca I would not touch unless your a power lifter and don't care about aesthetics, or your already under 10% BF. If your chubby it will just make you look even chubbier. You will be strong as hell but look like shit. Just my opinion.
 
Also yes tren is a bad Mo fo for sure. But that's not exactly a reason to want to run it as a person new to gear. It has several very serious heath risks. The sides on tren are the worst of any other compound if your not experienced in managing sides with proper diet and proper use of AI and Prolactin management I would steer clear.

It would be like if I took a few lessons on flying in a small single prop plane and then decided I wanted to fly an stealth fighter. I would more than likely crash and burn. Do your research.

I did not do a good job of finding out what your experience level was otherwise I would not have given you the above green light. Your questions lead me to believe your not ready for this type of cycle. The proposed cycle however is laid out pretty good which is what lead me to think you knew what you were doing. Guess its easy enough to copy and paste without knowing the details behind it.
Not being a dick I am just trying to be responsible. Last thing I want is to hear someone got messed up and I gave them the green light.
 
SoCalSwole said:
Also yes tren is a bad Mo fo for sure. But that's not exactly a reason to want to run it as a person new to gear. It has several very serious heath risks. The sides on tren are the worst of any other compound if your not experienced in managing sides with proper diet and proper use of AI and Prolactin management I would steer clear.

It would be like if I took a few lessons on flying in a small single prop plane and then decided I wanted to fly an stealth fighter. I would more than likely crash and burn. Do your research.

I did not do a good job of finding out what your experience level was otherwise I would not have given you the above green light. Your questions lead me to believe your not ready for this type of cycle. The proposed cycle however is laid out pretty good which is what lead me to think you knew what you were doing. Guess its easy enough to copy and paste without knowing the details behind it.
Not being a dick I am just trying to be responsible. Last thing I want is to hear someone got messed up and I gave them the green light.
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I agree this is why my posts always seem so cautious. Guys here seem to think maybe I'm being overly dramatic. I carefully read a thread before giving my opinion. People do die doing this but no one wants to talk about it. It can be done safely and for a very long time. Unfortunately 95% of guys dont. They instead do whatever they hear on boards instead of doing any real research themselves. That is lazy and dangerous. JMHO. Peace-J
 
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Great advice!!!
Tren, as Ive said many times,looks f-ing great on paper....but the fact is,its a beast and should not be used by anyone without years of experience...but Johnny come lately has got to have it(no disrespect)..
Ive posted more than once on my other forum about..
Good to see Im not the only dick out there...
 
Copy and paste, not trying to be a dick but copy and paste my nuts in ur mouth, give me a break don't even know why I bother fuckin asking for advice, get a bunch of assholes who think they know all trying to give advice, whatever I've done a shit load of research it's not my first rodeo why do we do shoot shit in our bodies to look jacked and get pussy at one point we all tried something for the first time, so I think it's tren for me, I'll start out slow and see how I react to it. Copy and paste, bitch please
 
I did first cycle of test and went straight to tren ace and am loving and hating every minute of it. Other than insomnia and night sweats which are to be expected, im not having any problems. I think most people are concerned about the people who come on these boards and start asking very, very basic questions like what's a steroid? Or what's an AI? Now granted, I'm not going to throw more than two compounds together because I am new to this and that's being smart about it. But, since I know what test does then if unfamiliar things start happening I know it is probably the tren and not the test. Again, I know its probably safer to leave tren alone till later but if you have some common sense, study before you start your cycle and have everything on hand before you start your cycle, imho you are setting yourself up for success and should not run into any surprises. And as you probably know, use the ace ester. Good luck. And.....I have enough trouble keeping myself out of trouble and am not telling anyone what to do. Ive put myself through 37 years of pain and misery. Tren is a walk in the park. Lol
 
Happy turkey day mother fuckers. Sent with my cock in my hand. Bitches!
 
FrankNegrete said:
Copy and paste, not trying to be a dick but copy and paste my nuts in ur mouth, give me a break don't even know why I bother fuckin asking for advice, get a bunch of assholes who think they know all trying to give advice, whatever I've done a shit load of research it's not my first rodeo why do we do shoot shit in our bodies to look jacked and get pussy at one point we all tried something for the first time, so I think it's tren for me, I'll start out slow and see how I react to it. Copy and paste, bitch please
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Im not sure why you bother asking for advise either. You obviously dont want it. You might not get treated that way if you werent asking questions that are already posted in the stickies bro. You want us to lift for you too? Paste your nuts in your own mouth and dont ask for something you dont want.
 
Paste your nuts in your mouth? That's classic. I think we all need to have a group hug. Or a circle jerk.
 
Decent cycle its your first time you should just do EoD for now unless you don't mind being a pin cushion.
 
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