was going to start my first cycle of test prop in about a month or two. Was wondering what i should take when i am done with my cycle to bring my boys back. And should i start to scale back the test prop towards the end? was thinking of clomid or nova but wasnt sure what u guys thought, i also read about taking one of them during the cycle to help with water retention....
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- Thread starter rhouser30
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Two prop isn't a good first cycle option. Why? Because it is considered by many to be one of the most painful esters out there. Second it requires at least every other day injections, for more stable blood levels it can be injected every day.
I suggest you start out with 10 weeks of Test Enanthate at 500mg (two injects oer week). No need for tapering, front loading or anything like that.
For PCT 4-6 weeks of Nolva usage should be fine.
If this is a first cycle you need to keep the number of variables very small. There's plenty of time to experiement later on.
I suggest you start out with 10 weeks of Test Enanthate at 500mg (two injects oer week). No need for tapering, front loading or anything like that.
For PCT 4-6 weeks of Nolva usage should be fine.
If this is a first cycle you need to keep the number of variables very small. There's plenty of time to experiement later on.
I don't always agree with that part of your statement in regards to test prop. I personally have more problems with Test Cyp then I do with Test Prop. Prop may make you a little sore but nothing crippling.redspy said:
Poster I see nothing wrong with test Prop your first cycle. Try it at 125 mgs eod. Just make it a short one of 6 weeks. Your not going to have many problems with that cycle and the boys should be fine. Just run Nolva 4 days after your last injection. 40 mgs the first week and then down to 20 and then 10.
Tough Old Man said:
The degree of discomfort/pain will vary from person to person and from brand to brand. However, if you search on the boards for prop+pain you'll see that anecdotally it's one of the most painful esters. Personally I think prop is great, but as a first cycle I would advise against it.
For me, sides are worse with test prop, especially gyno. I prefer test E. If one is prepared for the sides, has his ancilleries, and runs a moderate dose, test prop wouldn't be a bad first gear cycle, IMO.
Give it a try if you have it. What's the most that going to happen, a little soreness. The first injection may be the worst one, but after that it's no big thing. Just shoot it in the ass and don't worry about it.rhouser30 said:
rhouser30 said:
Sound like you have nolva from a research chemical company.
its oral only.
do not inject it.
Id go with test cyp/enan, they're pretty much the same ester give or take the odd molecule. Most of my mates down the gym run cyp as a base/first cycle and they all loved it. The only thing which I would get fed up with is the more regular pinning using prop. As for the nolva, I thought you could get it in liquid form, but am unsure how you administer that, whether its just put back into a capsule form etc. Im only really familiar with the various different nolva tabs.
well im going with the prop because that i have...i knew about the side affects about the pain, but i figured it cant be that bad like i cant walk or something like that...anyway the nolva i have is a liquid on got on universal kits web site...in a liquid dropper so when do i start taking it? right after the last shot? and with that liquid how do i know how much to take?
