Al Gore is an idiot

[Arnold]

If Al Gore is so stupid, how did he invent the internet?

not sure, but GWB thinks there are several internets, so who is the bigger idiot?

 

[Arnold]

that is always my biggest question. How the fuck did he single handedly invent the internet?

he just invented it, he did not build it.

 

[Decker]

not sure, but GWB thinks there are several internets, so who is the bigger idiot?

Even Newt Gingrich said that Al Gore's statement "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." is accurate. Also see his other quote:

"The day I made that statement, about inventing the internet, I was tired because I'd been up all night inventing the Camcorder."
--Al Gore

Incidentally, he never claimed to invent the Internet. But we know that already.

 

[ZECH]

I haven't seen the movie but some of these guys have:
http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/ap-scientists-give-two-thumbs-up-to-gores-movie-on-global-warming
"The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy."
It's occurred to me that global warming is happening. It is also clear that Gore used sound science in his movie, certainly not junk science--that's more the province of others. Correlation and causation are 2 different things though: Is the warming due to mankind's activities or is it just normal weather patterns in the historical cycle?

Since I am not a scientist and the gen. discussion of global warming has fallen into the shitter of political ramblings, my position is: Why take a chance? There's enough evidence to support the conclusion that man is having a deleterious effect on the environment and that effect can be treated/fixed/ameliorated.

Why not err on the side of caution and take some reasonable steps now before we reach some tipping point?

That would be the conservative approach, would it not?

I understand that this statement is general, but planning of this sort starts from the general and moves to the particular.

Although I don't believe in the whole "global warming" scheme, I do think and agree with you that we are destroying the planet with pollution.

You..................conservative approach?? Damn, I knew there was some hope for you!

 

[Decker]

Although I don't believe in the whole "global warming" scheme, I do think and agree with you that we are destroying the planet with pollution.

You..................conservative approach?? Damn, I knew there was some hope for you!

Did I mention that I'm out of my mind w/ fever...and not the cowbell kind? hahaha I'm off to convalesce. Have a great holiday dg.

 

[ZECH]

Did I mention that I'm out of my mind w/ fever...and not the cowbell kind? hahaha I'm off to convalesce. Have a great holiday dg.

You too Decker!

 

[DOMS]

Did I mention that I'm out of my mind w/ fever...and not the cowbell kind? hahaha I'm off to convalesce. Have a great holiday dg.

I think he just said that conservatism is a disease.

 

[ALBOB]

I think he just said that conservatism is a disease.

If we're lucky he's caught a double dose.

If we're REALLY lucky it's contageous and he'll spread it around.

 

[kbm8795]

The article was published as a commentary in Canada Free Press, and the writer is a mechanical engineer who is also an officer in a consulting firm which produces talking points for media in support of his clients. No bias there. . .

 

[DOMS]

It would only be non-biased if he was a liberal.

 

[lnvanry]

not sure, but GWB thinks there are several internets, so who is the bigger idiot?

oh yea...can gore spell P-O-T-A-T-O...with the "E"


Gore is being totally serial here guys.....manbearpig and global warming are serial.

 

[kbm8795]

It would only be non-biased if he was a liberal.

I don't think anyone alluded to the idea that Al Gore was the purveyor of absolute truth. However, the article was written by a public relations shill and issued for a client, hence the rather unprofessional inclusion of so many direct attacks on the film itself, rather than the discussion between scientific peers over global warming. The story was published as commentary or an opinion piece in media outlets for a reason - because it originated and was produced by a company whose ethical commitment is to the interests of private clients.

Given your rather limited understanding of the many facets of media, its small wonder that you have an even more limited understanding of the concept of bias. . .but then that's been a rather memorized mantra of conservatives for several years now. . .and they've shown us what they mean by "unbiased" reporting on their news/entertainment outlets.

It doesn't mean there isn't interesting information in the article, and that there isn't some level of disagreement in the scientific community - however, the first paragraph of this public relations "article" rather indicates an opinionated hit piece, which diminishes the value of the message to little more than a negative review of a movie on behalf of a private group of clients.

 

[DOMS]

Given your rather limited understanding of the many facets of media, its small wonder that you have an even more limited understanding of the concept of bias. . .but then that's been a rather memorized mantra of conservatives for several years now. . .and they've shown us what they mean by "unbiased" reporting on their news/entertainment outlets.

You write for a news outlet (or so you've said), I'm sure I can trust your opinion on news media.

Again, you try to single out conservatives as the only ones that complain about media bias. This show how "open minded" you really are.

My claim of media bias is quite simple: All major media outlets are biased. If not to their political group, then to their almighty buck.

 

[kbm8795]

You write for a news outlet (or so you've said), I'm sure I can trust your opinion on news media.

Actually, I've written for many different kinds of news and media outlets, and have the credentials, the experience and the training to support the evidence.

Again, you try to single out conservatives as the only ones that complain about media bias. This show how "open minded" you really are.

"Con-servatives" are "singled" out because they are the ones constantly complaining about media bias, yet their alternative products provide an even lower quality and credibility in news production. They attack the products, often without any real evidence (or their own public relations press releases) for the purpose of clouding the distinction between propaganda and news. They've had a golden opportunity to produce shining examples of objectivity in news production, but gave the country Fox News.

My claim of media bias is quite simple: All major media outlets are biased. If not to their political group, then to their almighty buck.

You have no professional training in the field, and you don't understand the difference between departments in a publication, let alone motivation for agendasetting and gatekeeping practices or the simple construction of newspaper stories. Have there been instances of bias? Yep. But in my own 20 years+ experience in publications, it happens far more often on the Right. How is it possible that the very people who whine about bias so often are so skilled at producing it without shame themselves?

 

[kbm8795]

Here is the Associated Press story that was issued on this subject:

The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy.

The former vice president's movie ??? replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets ??? mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press.

The AP contacted more than 100 top climate researchers by e-mail and phone for their opinion. Among those contacted were vocal skeptics of climate change theory. Most scientists had not seen the movie, which is in limited release, or read the book.

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/06/27/national/a105014D57.DTL

 

[DOMS]

Actually, I've written for many different kinds of news and media outlets, and have the credentials, the experience and the training to support the evidence.

And pendergasts think touching children is okay too.

You have no professional training in the field, and you don't understand the difference between departments in a publication, let alone motivation for agendasetting and gatekeeping practices or the simple construction of newspaper stories. Have there been instances of bias? Yep. But in my own 20 years+ experience in publications, it happens far more often on the Right. How is it possible that the very people who whine about bias so often are so skilled at producing it without shame themselves?

And as a liberal, I'm sure you are completely unbiased about conservative/liberal issues.

 

[lnvanry]

You have no professional training in the field, and you don't understand the difference between departments in a publication, let alone motivation for agendasetting and gatekeeping practices or the simple construction of newspaper stories. Have there been instances of bias? Yep. But in my own 20 years+ experience in publications, it happens far more often on the Right. How is it possible that the very people who whine about bias so often are so skilled at producing it without shame themselves?

You say conservatives are the only ones who complain about media bias----What a lie!

Like I've never heard anyone complain about fox news or the wall street journal

 

[DOMS]

 

[kbm8795]

And pendergasts think touching children is okay too.

You need to do a little better than that. . .I'm sure you have lots of reasons why you memorized con-servative cliches about media bias and recite them with out much thought or evidence. Perhaps it would be more interesting for you to explain what a responsible, patriotic American citizen you are by dutifully memorizing a mantra.


And as a liberal, I'm sure you are completely unbiased about conservative/liberal issues.

Your internalized political labels really present no basis for a professional assessment of media bias. You do understand the idea of professional, don't you?

We've already established that you have no professional credentials to make your own assessments, yet have a "con-servative" viewpoint which dictates your own inherent bias in consuming the product. Of course, you take no responsibility for projecting your bias into the meaning of the product.

 

[kbm8795]

You say conservatives are the only ones who complain about media bias----What a lie!

No, I wrote that conservatives are the ones constantly complaining about media bias.

Like I've never heard anyone complain about fox news or the wall street journal

Absolutely. But how could it possibly happen that a "conservative" ideology that complained for decades about the "liberal" media bias, was incapable of producing a news product free of bias?

 

[maniclion]

"If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your
mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit, then YOU DESERVE IT." Frank Zappa

"The mainstream media pretty much ignores the rest of the world unless there's catastrophe or war, and I find that reprehensible. Young people do want to know what's going on elsewhere, but there are fewer opportunities for journalists to go out into the real world and report what they find. The (cable news) networks instead put on old white guys who sit and yell at you what to think." Lisa Ling

 

[lnvanry]

she's pretty hot


on another note....I think that most young adults or teens don't give a damn about whats going on in the world...just from my personal experience. There are some who do care, but they end being the type that starts screaming and getting all upset at foreign policy.

I would guess that less than 4/10 young adults "really care" about what going on in the world. To really care--this means one educates oneself on issues...discusses it...maybe takes some action or participation on the issues (clubs/org.)

most young adults I know, just want to make money and party.

 

[DOMS]

Your internalized political labels really present no basis for a professional assessment of media bias. You do understand the idea of professional, don't you?

Did you say "professional?"

...

We've already established that you have no professional credentials to make your own assessments, yet have a "con-servative" viewpoint which dictates your own inherent bias in consuming the product. Of course, you take no responsibility for projecting your bias into the meaning of the product.

So, you're saying that a business' first priority isn't to make money?

 

[fufu]

Ok whether the movie was factually correct or not, can we just all agree that Al Gore is in an idiot regardless?

 

[maniclion]

Ok whether the movie was factually correct or not, can we just all agree that Al Gore is in an idiot regardless?

I thought we established that in 1999 when America declared may the bigger of the 2 idiots win?

 

[fufu]

I thought we established that in 1999 when America declared may the bigger of the 2 idiots win?

lawl

 

[kbm8795]

I thought we established that in 1999 when America declared may the bigger of the 2 idiots win?

And then we still had to let the Supreme Court do it for us.

 

[lnvanry]

And then we still had to let the Supreme Court do it for us.

that is pretty funny

 

[kbm8795]

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000


"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it," [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

 

[lnvanry]

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000


"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it," [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

c'mon...I know that with your last comment you have a sense of humor You just choose not to use it when its about Bush.