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Thats what i mean, if he would kiss all the Asses around him (especially th Media) then everybody would like him!!! Thats simply no fair treatment of a Humanbeing!!! Ain't i right???

As far as i know, Gaylord Perry wasn't that much liked during his Active Time either!!!
Really? I thought he was, maybe he was only liked by the media.
But then again if your batting against a cheater that would piss me off too.
 
fuck the yankees...hate teams that try to buy championships
 
Nope, I disagree.

The Babe did it in lesser games, bigger parks, and with the protective armor.

A-Rod will soon pass him.....drug free.

How do you know he's drug free? Do you have any evidence to support that claim or do you believe he's natural just because he plays for the Yankees?

Nobody really knows what goes on behind the scenes ... in the dugout, in the offseason and so forth. All i know that is everyone is innocent until proven guilty but you cannot assume one player is natural and the other is a steroid freak.
 
because only big people take steroids.

There is an entire national olympic weight lifting team in china that got hit with a doping violation....oh yea, they were 110lb women.....but steroids only make you big and bulky.
I followed baseball heavily back in the late 60's all the way to the mid 80's and never heard of such rumors except for Rose.
It was always said that big muscle fucked with your swing....till Canseco disproved that.

Show me proof the Babe did Coke.
 
How do you know he's drug free? Do you have any evidence to support that claim or do you believe he's natural just because he plays for the Yankees?

Nobody really knows what goes on behind the scenes ... in the dugout, in the offseason and so forth. All i know that is everyone is innocent until proven guilty but you cannot assume one player is natural and the other is a steroid freak.

Right on the Money!!!:thumb:
 
I followed baseball heavily back in the late 60's all the way to the mid 80's and never heard of such rumors except for Rose.
It was always said that big muscle fucked with your swing....till Canseco disproved that.

Show me proof the Babe did Coke.

Show me proof that A-rod is drug free.

And obviously because you were following baseball back then, there is no way possible that anyone could have been doing something performance enhancing.
 
How do you know he's drug free? Do you have any evidence to support that claim or do you believe he's natural just because he plays for the Yankees?


Nobody really knows what goes on behind the scenes ... in the dugout, in the offseason and so forth. All i know that is everyone is innocent until proven guilty but you cannot assume one player is natural and the other is a steroid freak.
I am no homer, I am not even an A-rod fan but I do respect his achievements.
How do I know he doesn't use steroids, I don't know. I feel he is drug free the same way i feel Ortiz is drug free and Manny is drug free.....he may just be a pot head though.

How dare you accuse me of being a homer.
I am just going on a gut feeling and I am entitled to my opinion.

by the way Boston sucks and we are gaining ground.:p
 
Show me proof that A-rod is drug free.

And obviously because you were following baseball back then, there is no way possible that anyone could have been doing something performance enhancing.
Let him pee in my mouth and I'll see the results a month later, I don't know for sure.

But I sure do know he is not better than Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Ty Cobb.......
 
Let him pee in my mouth and I'll see the results a month later, I don't know for sure.

But I sure do know he is not better than Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Ty Cobb.......

Why is he not better than those guys though? How can you compare players from different eras? So many things have changed in the game....they play more games now (which obviously says something about what those guys did in a shorter season), but they also have longer road trips and because they play more games, they break down more and their bodies get destroyed. maybe those guys could not have held up to the amount of time these guys are putting in. maybe without the supplementation (not taking illegal drugs) and specific training that these guys now do (year round), the players of yesterday would not be able to hack. So, would they be any less of player because they are taking advantage of these things....new advances in training, new knowledge in nutrition and supplementation, etc....???

it is just to hard to look at those players and compare them to todays players.

I don't like a-rod. I do think that he is an incredible player and I like what he does. I think he works incdreibly hard to be the best he can be.
 
Why is he not better than those guys though? How can you compare players from different eras? Your doing the same, how can you say he is the best. Maybe the best in his era but no alltime.

So many things have changed in the game....they play more games now (which obviously says something about what those guys did in a shorter season) Which say's even more considering Ruth had more homers in less games than Maris....oops wrong era wrong asteric.

but they also have longer road trips and because they play more games, they break down more and their bodies get destroyed.They mostly went on train rides which were longer, they also had to get a winter jobs because their baseball salaries was not enough.
Now they have planes in first class to get them there faster. They also don't need a second job.

maybe those guys could not have held up to the amount of time these guys are putting in. maybe without the supplementation (not taking illegal drugs) and specific training that these guys now do (year round), the players of yesterday would not be able to hack. So, would they be any less of player because they are taking advantage of these things....new advances in training, new knowledge in nutrition and supplementation, etc....???

it is just to hard to look at those players and compare them to todays players. It is.

I don't like a-rod. I do think that he is an incredible player and I like what he does. I think he works incdreibly hard to be the best he can be. I don't care for him either, he changed....when he played for Seattle he seemed like a good humble kid. Now he is a spoiled jerk.
But I have to admit he can play when his mind is in it.
His agent may have fucked him up
He earned my respect this year, through all the crap the media and fans put him through he has bounced back.

Now I want to see him against Boston when it matters or in October.
 
I heard that Canseco has mentioned A-rod in his new book....let's see what he say's.
I'm going out to buy the old one.
 
who can believe cansaco though...that dude is a loose cannon and a whore for money.
 
a) I don't believe that anyone is drug free.

b) it is a different game. Should we take away the praise we sing for glavine because of his 300 wins, only 57 of them were complete games....NOT EVEN HALF?? That is fucking lame. Guys used to pitch only complete games. Should Glavine be put in the same breath as some of those guys that he has just joined in that elite club? Where is the bullpen that finished those games for Glavine, maybe we should praise them too?

Even more impressive since they have changed the game to suit the batter. Shorter fields, Lower mounds.
 
who can believe cansaco though...that dude is a loose cannon and a whore for money.


He was spot on with his last book. His book was the reason for the whole inquiry.
 
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