Andro series from Primordial Performance is a go

[Stewart14]

Hmm thats an interesting question. When you say it could also convert into other hormones, wich ones do you think they could turn into?

I don't know, that's why I'm asking. If you look at the andromass, the two main ingredients can initially be converted to what, four different hormones, which then need to be converted again to the target hormones. You would have to assume that a lot is going on with all these conversions and while I'm sure you definitely get a decent percentage of what you are ultimately looking for, I'm sure you also get a decent percentage of conversions you are not looking for.

A lot of people will tell you that pro hormones are junk and you'd be better off with straight steroids, but my question would be why? Is there something inherently dangerous about all the conversions and what these hormones can be converted into as opposed to taking regular straight test for example? Or do they call them junk because they don't work *all that well* for the cost involved? Or are they just very opinionated steroid users, lol?

 

[BigBlackGuy]

I don't know, that's why I'm asking. If you look at the andromass, the two main ingredients can initially be converted to what, four different hormones, which then need to be converted again to the target hormones. You would have to assume that a lot is going on with all these conversions and while I'm sure you definitely get a decent percentage of what you are ultimately looking for, I'm sure you also get a decent percentage of conversions you are not looking for.

A lot of people will tell you that pro hormones are junk and you'd be better off with straight steroids, but my question would be why? Is there something inherently dangerous about all the conversions and what these hormones can be converted into as opposed to taking regular straight test for example? Or do they call them junk because they don't work *all that well* for the cost involved? Or are they just very opinionated steroid users, lol?

All steroids users are opinionated lol Injectables are cheap and effective. They're also illegal, you can be scammed, basically all the things bad that can happen with the underground...

I need to check out the cascade with dhea. I think the worst metabolites would be estrone/estradiol which aromatizing steroids always yield (atleast estradiol which is more potent).

 

[HereToStudy]

I don't know, that's why I'm asking. If you look at the andromass, the two main ingredients can initially be converted to what, four different hormones, which then need to be converted again to the target hormones. You would have to assume that a lot is going on with all these conversions and while I'm sure you definitely get a decent percentage of what you are ultimately looking for, I'm sure you also get a decent percentage of conversions you are not looking for.

A lot of people will tell you that pro hormones are junk and you'd be better off with straight steroids, but my question would be why? Is there something inherently dangerous about all the conversions and what these hormones can be converted into as opposed to taking regular straight test for example? Or do they call them junk because they don't work *all that well* for the cost involved? Or are they just very opinionated steroid users, lol?

They say that because up until now, prohormones have been one of two things:

Weak/Inefficient
Insanely Harsh

With the AndroSeries we made a product that will provide very good results, while limiting toxicity. To those who were less than satisfied with current prohormones and moved onto AAS, it is hard for them to accept that there is a decent alternative on the horizon. This is why I am looking forward to logs, which will show how efficient these little pills really are.

 

[Good Grip]

The logs will be the proof in the pudding for most who are non believers and on the fence observers. I dont think the Androseries will convert into multiple unwanted hormones, but thats just my opinion and its not what Eric had intended for them either. Again, the logs will tell the meat of the story.

 

[240PLUS]

THIS IS ALL I ROLL WITH.

 

[djm6464]

I don't know, that's why I'm asking. If you look at the andromass, the two main ingredients can initially be converted to what, four different hormones, which then need to be converted again to the target hormones. You would have to assume that a lot is going on with all these conversions and while I'm sure you definitely get a decent percentage of what you are ultimately looking for, I'm sure you also get a decent percentage of conversions you are not looking for.

A lot of people will tell you that pro hormones are junk and you'd be better off with straight steroids, but my question would be why? Is there something inherently dangerous about all the conversions and what these hormones can be converted into as opposed to taking regular straight test for example? Or do they call them junk because they don't work *all that well* for the cost involved? Or are they just very opinionated steroid users, lol?

imo, all of the above....if the new stuff is what they say, bloods will show that.....multiple conversions could cumulatively give the desired effects of test, however in the past, multiple conversions from methyls created the multitude of sides

the delivery and cyp3 inhibition could evade this issue, hopefully for the user and the company....again id want to see blood to back this

i know on another board, they were offering free logs, but in exchange for bloods and pics, so we'll know soon enuff as im sure there was alot of takers

 

[ryansm]

Yup we will see, logs are underway now

 

[BigBlackGuy]

THIS IS ALL I ROLL WITH.

 

[ryansm]

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Yup we will see, logs are underway now

Several popping up, hopefully some on IM will show themselves.

 

[Good Grip]

I hear Andromass may be shipping out this week, so we may see logs on that sooner than we expected.

 

[ryansm]

I hear Andromass may be shipping out this week, so we may see logs on that sooner than we expected.

Looking at 4/1 actually for the AM

 

[Good Grip]

Looking at 4/1 actually for the AM

Thats right, just a few days delay. Thanks for the correction Ryan.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

I hear Andromass may be shipping out this week, so we may see logs on that sooner than we expected.

Severe case of "foot in mouth" over here at PP

 

[Rodja]

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imo, all of the above....if the new stuff is what they say, bloods will show that.....multiple conversions could cumulatively give the desired effects of test, however in the past, multiple conversions from methyls created the multitude of sides

the delivery and cyp3 inhibition could evade this issue, hopefully for the user and the company....again id want to see blood to back this

i know on another board, they were offering free logs, but in exchange for bloods and pics, so we'll know soon enuff as im sure there was alot of takers

As I understand it, the bloods are more for safety markers than regarding the actual efficacy of the product. Yes, it will show exactly how much strength it has, but Eric is more concerned with lipid, liver, kidney, etc. health markers.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

As I understand it, the bloods are more for safety markers than regarding the actual efficacy of the product. Yes, it will show exactly how much strength it has, but Eric is more concerned with lipid, liver, kidney, etc. health markers.

Yah. People sometimes forget that their test and estrogen levels aren't the beat-all end-all of what is important.

 

[Good Grip]

I know a lot of people are diggin that the Androseries is super safe for being a prohormone, but for others their just not getting it. Dont get me wrong, ive got my fair share of methyls at home and im goin to use them up, but im certainly glad that there is now a safer, yet still potent alternative.

 

[HereToStudy]

I know a lot of people are diggin that the Androseries is super safe for being a prohormone, but for others their just not getting it. Dont get me wrong, ive got my fair share of methyls at home and im goin to use them up, but im certainly glad that there is now a safer, yet still potent alternative.

Certainly accurate on all fronts.

 

[Good Grip]

Ive read one good bit of feedback so far on Androlean and to say the least im stoked about it.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Ive read one good bit of feedback so far on Androlean and to say the least im stoked about it.

Perfect for spring/summer recomps/cuts.

 

[HATEFULone]

Ive read one good bit of feedback so far on Androlean and to say the least im stoked about it.

If the price of androlean comes down a little bit it might be a very common factor in peoples cutting cycles.

 

[ryansm]

If the price of androlean comes down a little bit it might be a very common factor in peoples cutting cycles.

Reading the logs thus far, I think you are right on. Incredible feedback already on AL and AH.

 

[HereToStudy]

If the price of androlean comes down a little bit it might be a very common factor in peoples cutting cycles.

Send a rep a PM, they can always work something out if cost is your concern.

 

[djm6464]

iv seen it now on a few sites significantly cheaper than pp.....what kinda hook up are we talking rep wise?

 

[Good Grip]

iv seen it now on a few sites significantly cheaper than pp.....what kinda hook up are we talking rep wise?

What sites? We always guarantee the best prices and will beat competitors by 5%. As for discounts, its mostly, but not limited, to logging opportunities.

 

[CURLS]

The andro series is now on other sites as well as the rest of pp stuff. PP can not advertise cheaper prices on there site or no suppliers would carry their products. They will price match or beat any websites with no problem.
Lockout is just one site.

 

[Rodja]

iv seen it now on a few sites significantly cheaper than pp.....what kinda hook up are we talking rep wise?

The rep hookup will beat the price of any competitor.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

The andro series is now on other sites as well as the rest of pp stuff. PP can not advertise cheaper prices on there site or no suppliers would carry their products. They will price match or beat any websites with no problem.
Lockout is just one site.

Yah, a few stores carrying our stuff, it's very nice to see. Cheaper too for the consumer

 

[Good Grip]

Im glad Orbit carries it, as now our neighbors up north can get access to them ; )

 

[HereToStudy]

Im glad Orbit carries it, as now our neighbors up north can get access to them ; )

...and orbit is a pretty kick ass store.